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View Poll Results: Mahouka LN - Steeplechase Chapter (Volume 13) Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 13 | 20.63% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 13 | 20.63% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 17 | 26.98% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 11 | 17.46% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 4 | 6.35% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 3.17% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 2 | 3.17% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 1.59% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2014-07-10, 09:00 | Link #2221 | ||
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2014-07-10, 10:22 | Link #2223 | |
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2014-07-10, 23:27 | Link #2226 | ||
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On contrary, I was impressed with Yakumo. I think, he may be only one outside of Yotsuba who can actually help Tatsuya and can be called and deserves the title of friend or comrade. (Miki, Leo, and Erica do not really know "true" Tatsuya.) Yakumo also took advantages over Tatsuya's relationship with Yotsuba, but based on observation until now I think, Yakumo seems to share common objective with Tatsuya, which is the safety and wellbeing of magic society. I am hoping more actions from Yakumo. Man, I really hope, Zhou Gongjin to take down / kill Kazama and possibly wipe out 101 independent magic division. His boss wants both GA and Japan to get weaker, but Yokohama invasion only weakened the GA. Outside of TMC, 101 battalion is the key military defense for JSDF, so idea of Zhou targeting 101 or its members are not far-fetched. As a fan of Tatsuya, I think Kazama and his crew may cause a serious damage to Tatsuya at one point or become an enemy of Tatsuya. Quote:
Guardians are the lowest ranked personnels in the Yotsuba. Each Yotsuba has right to choose his / her guardian, but guardians are subjects to take orders from any Yotsuba in the family. If your concept was right, Tatsuya should not take an order from Miya during the past arc. He was a guardian of Miyuki, and Sakurai was a guardian of Miya. Tatsuya is probably only guardian who can object to the Maya, who is the highest person within the hierachic system of Yotsuba because Tatsuya has no loyalty to Yotstuba, and he is only taking a job as a guardian in order to stay in Yotsuba and ultimately stay next to the Miyuki. When I look at Tatsuya, I would not say, he is above the system, but he is more like outside of system. Last edited by TrueAlchemist; 2014-07-11 at 01:20. |
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2014-07-11, 02:46 | Link #2227 | |
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2014-07-11, 03:03 | Link #2228 |
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The -dono suffix implies heightened status within the hierarchal structure. It's higher than -san, but not quite on the level of -sama. If he was outside of the hierarchy then there are other suffixes for that, dono and sama are not something you use for outliers and nobodies.
They mean that you either acknowledge the status of someone to be above your own and deeply respect the recipient, or that you're forced to given the circumstances. Aoki referring to Tatsuya as -dono only denotes that he was being overly polite in order to barter with him for Pixie. Hayama and the Kuroba servants on the other hand appear to acknowledge Tatsuya as someone above them within the clan. If the translation for the Kuroba servants is -sama and not -dono then we can definitely infer that Tatsuya's status in the clan isn't quite what we had previously assumed, or that it is changing. |
2014-07-11, 03:35 | Link #2229 | |
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2014-07-11, 03:44 | Link #2230 |
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No, there are rules for the use of suffixes. You wouldn't call your teacher for heika, so you don't call some outsider you see as lower than dirt for -dono, ever.
Mayumi and Katsuto refer to the other heads as -dono because their status is similar being that they're all from the main families, but at the same time they outrank them. It is a show of respect. You should educate yourself on a subject before you try to fit them into your scenarios. Use google. |
2014-07-11, 07:14 | Link #2232 | |
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What I don't get here though is why Kazama was holding back information. I mean, Kazama and Saeki are opposed to any military meddling from the 10MC, and that goes for the Kudou as much as for the Yotsuba. Witholding information from a "Yotsuba combatant" was an indirect way of helping the Kudou (even if that wasn't Kazama's intention). Plus Saeki was liaising with Maya anyway, so it's not like Kazama didn't know that Tatsuya would have access to the intel. Why not just give it to him directly and maintain the best possible relationship with him? Makes no sense. The only thing I can think of is that this was Kazama's way of siding with Fujiyama over Tatsuya. She was always a valuable subordinate and after his forgiving her for her actions in this arc, he is guaranteed her loyalty. It kind of looks like he is preparing the 101 to close ranks against Tatsuya at some point in the future. |
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2014-07-11, 11:00 | Link #2233 | |
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2014-07-11, 11:23 | Link #2234 | |
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Any spoiler for Erika discussing the Yotsuba with Tatsuya in chapter 2? |
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2014-07-11, 13:20 | Link #2235 | |
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2014-07-11, 14:13 | Link #2236 | |
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Even if he is outside of their "system" there is still such a thing as a social hierarchy, this is the hierarchal structure I was referring to. No matter how much strive for it you will never fall out of the social hierarchy, no matter what you do. Even the so-called outsiders have a place in the social structure and it's at a very low place. The last time Aoki met Tatsuya he refused to even acknowledge his existence, much less use the informal -san suffix. Yet now he's using -dono and you expect everything to be peaches? |
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2014-07-11, 14:54 | Link #2237 |
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Common useage of dono is to adress someone respectfully while making it clear that they are not above you which sama implies.
This is in part why Miya stressed not calling Tatsuya Oniisama inplaces that only family are at. It can be seen as undermining her authority since as a candidate for the next head is placing herself as being subservient to him. This may have been part of the issue with Kuroba as well since Fumiya was also adressing Tatsuya as Tatsuya-niisama while only adressing his father as Otou-san. I'm starting to think that it was in part trying to hid this that lead to Tatsuya's "exile" from the main house.
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2014-07-11, 16:35 | Link #2238 | |
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