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White Manju Bun · 2016-10-19, 14:42

MY HEART CANNOT TAKE THIS!!!

I swear I can't Im just gonna die happy right here....OMG

Stark700 · 2016-10-19, 15:15

Episode 3:

Haha, the man service of the show is hilarious.

Yuuri and Yurio's relationship is still pretty tense as they are rivals. I like Yurio's outfit this episode though, very flashy! The ice skating performance was great, really impressed by the movements, style, and music they used with a good degree of realism. However, it seemed like Yurio had some doubts? I'd love to see more of his background story.

Another strong episode. The show has been capitalizing on every little details ranging from the camera angles, commentary, and of course the ice skating performance itself. Yuri's own performance is also very impressive.

MagnaAngemon · 2016-10-19, 15:45

Yo..after todays episode man you have to wonder if this is still queerbaiting or if this could legit happen. This went pretty far, and it wasn't all subtext at all.

Dop · 2016-10-19, 15:47

Well, that blew my plot theory out of the water, guess i wasn't expecting Yurio to be quite the whiny teenager there! Be nice to see more of his backstory with his grandfather though, that was the part that humanised the character the most.

Man, that skating was just spectacular, and Yuri's notion to put a spin on his performance certainly did the trick. I guess it was Viktor's old costume that sparked off the idea.
I was rooted to the spot during both performances, they were both wonderful to watch.

Gan_HOPE326 · 2016-10-19, 16:05

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Originally Posted by MagnaAngemon

Yo..after todays episode man you have to wonder if this is still queerbaiting or if this could legit happen. This went pretty far, and it wasn't all subtext at all.

I started thinking it too. I thought we'd only get teasing but damn, this episode was straightforward. It would be interesting to see an anime actually go through with the homoerotic subtext for once.

MagnaAngemon · 2016-10-19, 16:16

Very straightforward.

He said he identifies more with being a woman then a man.
He hugged Viktor in a very feminine way.
He basically said "I love you"

I mean..damn.

drawr · 2016-10-19, 17:37

Haha, this is basically BL. I'm still too disappointed by the amount of comedy since it doesn't make me crack a smile at all. From the previews of this I was expecting not to have to suspend my belief this much since the circumstances that led to this match are a bit ridiculous. Also the skating has started getting less and less frames(and more QUALITY) since episode 1. I guess they can't maintain that level but Occultic;Nine and Flip Flappers are spoiling me.

BPD Renegade · 2016-10-19, 20:37

A few derp faces and funky animation going on.

A nice touch is when Yuri actually used "atashi" to refer to himself. He was completely immersed in the role. And enough with baiting anime. I really want the relationship to be legit.

orion · 2016-10-19, 20:45

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Originally Posted by MagnaAngemon

Very straightforward.

He said he identifies more with being a woman then a man.
He hugged Viktor in a very feminine way.
He basically said "I love you"

I mean..damn.

You took that whole scene out of context. He had to identify as a seductive woman for that skating performance. He even went to his ballet teacher to show him how to do moves like a seductive female. He's partially "in-character" for his performance and he was about to faint secondary to anxiety.

Yamada II · 2016-10-19, 21:39

Episode 3

This is getting gayer with each episode. And it doesn't help with Victor getting WAY too close to Japanese Yuri and Japanese Yuri learning to be feminine. The skating was cool and I love those camera angles, but damn this is getting too gay for me to watch. And it doesn't look like they'll be toning down anything. Also, the opening sequence was more complete here. And I think I noticed them repeating the same moves at least twice for each character in the opening. I'm on the border here because of all that gay.

Wandering Soul · 2016-10-19, 21:47

Both performances were wonderful. While he didn't win, I'm actually interested in learning more about Yurio's grandfather and their relationship.

MagnaAngemon · 2016-10-19, 22:35

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Originally Posted by Yamada II

Episode 3

This is getting gayer with each episode. And it doesn't help with Victor getting WAY too close to Japanese Yuri and Japanese Yuri learning to be feminine. The skating was cool and I love those camera angles, but damn this is getting too gay for me to watch. And it doesn't look like they'll be toning down anything. Also, the opening sequence was more complete here. And I think I noticed them repeating the same moves at least twice for each character in the opening. I'm on the border here because of all that gay.

Bro if this was just the first 3 episodes, man it's probably gonna get gayer or become legit BL.

I doubt they'll tone it down.

orion · 2016-10-19, 23:30

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Originally Posted by Wandering Soul

Both performances were wonderful. While he didn't win, I'm actually interested in learning more about Yurio's grandfather and their relationship.

I'm betting that Yurio's granddad was the only one supportive of him skating.

Arya · 2016-10-20, 02:48

Well, I liked this episode a lot. And the comedy is fine. As I said it helps to keep the tone above the line, making the whole thing not too straightforward when well, it is already quite straightforward.

I agree that both the performances were great, but if I have to say, Yurio's was better, it felt like he was exposing himself there feeling uncomfortable, wanting the performance to end.
On the other hand what about Yuri? His eros was brought up by some meat dish. Then for stay more in-character he decided to identify with a woman.
I think that to equate Yurio's performance Yuri had to expose himself as well, so in the end I infer he wasn't just acting, but that was his true nature surfacing. And considering all the straightforwardness it makes sense.

Still I have preferred for Yurio to stay in Japan, not sure I'll be able to watch just Yuri and Victor. And Yurio was very cute during his defrosted moments.

shmaster · 2016-10-20, 04:32

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Originally Posted by Arya

I agree that both the performances were great, but if I have to say, Yurio's was better, it felt like he was exposing himself there feeling uncomfortable, wanting the performance to end.

That really is the double edge sword that made and killed his performance.
Although that transcended the emotion within his performance, but it also diverted from his role. It also showed he couldn't immerse into his role completely.

From there, and considering Viktor's POV and his intention, I think I understand why Viktor handed Yuri the win.
He wanted them to do something they originally can't, and become something different from what they had been. On this particular subject, Yuri nailed it better.

kuromitsu · 2016-10-20, 05:25

I continue to wish that I liked the show as much as I want to like it... It's cute, it has nice things that I like, by all rights I should be all over it, but somehow it's just not connecting with me at all. I see people being excited about it, and I want to be excited too, but so far my thoughts at the end of each episode were along the lines of "yeah, that was okay".

Anyway, the thing I continue to not understand is why they made Yuuri 23. Viktor's age - sure, whatever, it's not unheard of and I think he's going to retire in the end anyway. Yuri's age - 15, sure, no problem. But I just don't see the point in Yuuri being 23. I mean I'm not a figure skating expert so correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 23 too late to start a successful career in this sport? Even if the story is about him rejuvenating his career and starting to skate awesomely, isn't he just too old? How many years does he have left in him, where he'll have to compete with younger skaters?

(Even in Endless Night this stage of the character was 19 years old...)

Arya · 2016-10-20, 05:50

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Originally Posted by shmaster

That really is the double edge sword that made and killed his performance.
Although that transcended the emotion within his performance, but it also diverted from his role. It also showed he couldn't immerse into his role completely.

From there, and considering Viktor's POV and his intention, I think I understand why Viktor handed Yuri the win.
He wanted them to do something they originally can't, and become something different from what they had been. On this particular subject, Yuri nailed it better.

Yeah, that makes very sense. I kinda overlooked a bit the last bits of Yurio's performance where he probably got out from his "exposed" position exactly because he felt exposed and so very uncomfortable. Still I dound it more personal than Yuri. But yeah. That wasn't the point strictly speaking. Also, it has to be proven yet how personal Yuri went with his embodiment (As I think he did).

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Anyway, the thing I continue to not understand is why they made Yuuri 23. Viktor's age - sure, whatever, it's not unheard of and I think he's going to retire in the end anyway. Yuri's age - 15, sure, no problem. But I just don't see the point in Yuuri being 23. I mean I'm not a figure skating expert so correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 23 too late to start a successful career in this sport? Even if the story is about him rejuvenating his career and starting to skate awesomely, isn't he just too old? How many years does he have left in him, where he'll have to compete with younger skaters?

Well, considering that Viktor is older (I don't think he is the same age as Yuri) he has surely some years ahead. On the other hand if we took the whole story as a coming-out story having him 23yo would surely make more sense in terms of personal awareness.

Dop · 2016-10-20, 07:52

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Originally Posted by kuromitsu

...isn't 23 too late to start a successful career in this sport? Even if the story is about him rejuvenating his career and starting to skate awesomely, isn't he just too old? How many years does he have left in him, where he'll have to compete with younger skaters?

He's not starting a career though. Right at the start, he was in the grand prix final, so he was already a top level skater at that time, just not a top top level skater. He does say the battle for his last season has begun, so it's really down to both getting his mojo back and one last chance to really make it big before his career is over.

Yurio's loss is pretty evident towards the end of his routine, when he's too busy just skating to actually convey any of the feeling of the routine, and he knows he's lost just from that, when Yuri, despite his slip-up, still puts over the emotion behind the routine.

Gan_HOPE326 · 2016-10-20, 07:58

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Originally Posted by orion

You took that whole scene out of context. He had to identify as a seductive woman for that skating performance. He even went to his ballet teacher to show him how to do moves like a seductive female. He's partially "in-character" for his performance and he was about to faint secondary to anxiety.

He didn't have to. He had to feel the concept of 'eros'; he found that he found it better by identifying with the seductive woman than with the playboy. Because he knew "who he was dancing for" - Viktor, the playboy who came to town out of nowhere.

Mind you, this is animeland, so in some way they may decide to handwave everything away as nothing and all totally hetero if they don't want to go through with it. But at the same time it's obvious what's being teased here. Just because anime has a habit of never making these things end anywhere doesn't mean it's legit to interpret them as signifying a homosexual attraction. This isn't some fujoshi fantasising about two rival characters having a bromance, the show is obviously pushing the BL angle. Whether it'll actually go anywhere with it is another matter.

LKK · 2016-10-20, 08:29

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Originally Posted by Yamada II

Also, the opening sequence was more complete here. And I think I noticed them repeating the same moves at least twice for each character in the opening.

You're right. The skating sequence in the OP is repeated but not entirely. For the first go after the initial paint splotches, we get a short sequence of Yuuri skating solo, then Viktor comes in for a solo section including a jump midway where we see a close-up of his gold blades. When skating sequence ends with the threesome skating together, the show's logo displays for a bit.

The skating sequence starts its repeat after the logo disappears. But we don't see Yuuri's solo sequence or the beginning of Viktor's solo either. After the logo disappears, the repeat starts at the close-up of Viktor's blades landing the midway routine jump.

The skating's been that way since episode 1, by the way. It's the background and the splotches that are changing from episode to episode. I saw some changes to the rinkside this time, such as cameras and other details added in.

Do you think I might be watching the episodes a little too obsessively?

2016-10-19, 15:15	Link #122
Stark700 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Somewhere on Earth	Episode 3: Haha, the man service of the show is hilarious. Yuuri and Yurio's relationship is still pretty tense as they are rivals. I like Yurio's outfit this episode though, very flashy! The ice skating performance was great, really impressed by the movements, style, and music they used with a good degree of realism. However, it seemed like Yurio had some doubts? I'd love to see more of his background story. Another strong episode. The show has been capitalizing on every little details ranging from the camera angles, commentary, and of course the ice skating performance itself. Yuri's own performance is also very impressive. __________________

2016-10-19, 21:47	Link #131
Wandering Soul Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: America	Both performances were wonderful. While he didn't win, I'm actually interested in learning more about Yurio's grandfather and their relationship. __________________

2016-10-20, 02:48	Link #134
Arya Senior Member Join Date: May 2004	Well, I liked this episode a lot. And the comedy is fine. As I said it helps to keep the tone above the line, making the whole thing not too straightforward when well, it is already quite straightforward. I agree that both the performances were great, but if I have to say, Yurio's was better, it felt like he was exposing himself there feeling uncomfortable, wanting the performance to end. On the other hand what about Yuri? His eros was brought up by some meat dish. Then for stay more in-character he decided to identify with a woman. I think that to equate Yurio's performance Yuri had to expose himself as well, so in the end I infer he wasn't just acting, but that was his true nature surfacing. And considering all the straightforwardness it makes sense. Still I have preferred for Yurio to stay in Japan, not sure I'll be able to watch just Yuri and Victor. And Yurio was very cute during his defrosted moments. __________________ *The meaning of things lies not in the things themselves, but in our attitude towards them.*

2016-10-19, 15:45	Link #123
MagnaAngemon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015	Yo..after todays episode man you have to wonder if this is still queerbaiting or if this could legit happen. This went pretty far, and it wasn't all subtext at all.

2016-10-19, 15:47	Link #124
Dop Mmmm.... Join Date: Sep 2006	Well, that blew my plot theory out of the water, guess i wasn't expecting Yurio to be quite the whiny teenager there! Be nice to see more of his backstory with his grandfather though, that was the part that humanised the character the most. Man, that skating was just spectacular, and Yuri's notion to put a spin on his performance certainly did the trick. I guess it was Viktor's old costume that sparked off the idea. I was rooted to the spot during both performances, they were both wonderful to watch.

2016-10-19, 16:16	Link #126
MagnaAngemon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015	Very straightforward. He said he identifies more with being a woman then a man. He hugged Viktor in a very feminine way. He basically said "I love you" I mean..damn.

2016-10-19, 17:37	Link #127
drawr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012	Haha, this is basically BL. I'm still too disappointed by the amount of comedy since it doesn't make me crack a smile at all. From the previews of this I was expecting not to have to suspend my belief this much since the circumstances that led to this match are a bit ridiculous. Also the skating has started getting less and less frames(and more QUALITY) since episode 1. I guess they can't maintain that level but Occultic;Nine and Flip Flappers are spoiling me.

2016-10-19, 20:37	Link #128
BPD Renegade Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: at port, docked	A few derp faces and funky animation going on. A nice touch is when Yuri actually used "atashi" to refer to himself. He was completely immersed in the role. And enough with baiting anime. I really want the relationship to be legit.

2016-10-19, 21:39	Link #130
Yamada II Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Pakistan Age: 28	Episode 3 This is getting gayer with each episode. And it doesn't help with Victor getting WAY too close to Japanese Yuri and Japanese Yuri learning to be feminine. The skating was cool and I love those camera angles, but damn this is getting too gay for me to watch. And it doesn't look like they'll be toning down anything. Also, the opening sequence was more complete here. And I think I noticed them repeating the same moves at least twice for each character in the opening. I'm on the border here because of all that gay.

2016-10-20, 05:25	Link #136
kuromitsu Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004	I continue to wish that I liked the show as much as I want to like it... It's cute, it has nice things that I like, by all rights I should be all over it, but somehow it's just not connecting with me at all. I see people being excited about it, and I want to be excited too, but so far my thoughts at the end of each episode were along the lines of "yeah, that was okay". Anyway, the thing I continue to not understand is why they made Yuuri 23. Viktor's age - sure, whatever, it's not unheard of and I think he's going to retire in the end anyway. Yuri's age - 15, sure, no problem. But I just don't see the point in Yuuri being 23. I mean I'm not a figure skating expert so correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 23 too late to start a successful career in this sport? Even if the story is about him rejuvenating his career and starting to skate awesomely, isn't he just too old? How many years does he have left in him, where he'll have to compete with younger skaters? (Even in Endless Night this stage of the character was 19 years old...)