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9 out of 10 : Excellent | 11 | 50.00% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 4 | 18.18% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 31.82% | |
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2013-08-23, 22:59 | Link #41 | |||
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If Alter-Ego was set up by the mastermind, then everything AE has done so far, the pictures, the info on the principle, the info about the terrible day, has been handed out because the mastermind wanted them to have that info. Why? Maybe it's to amuse himself, maybe it's to keep the captives occupied so that they don't manage to find out something that was supposed to be an actual secret, maybe it's for some other reason. Having Alter-Ego ask to be connected to the network could just be the next stage in whatever the mastermind's plan is. If you want to talk about not making sense, then it really, really doesn't make any sense for the mastermind to leave anything in the school that he/she didn't want the captives to have access to. If they aren't supposed to access the school's network, why give them a laptop, a network cable, and the computer genius necessary to repair the laptop? Computer genius dies too soon? Whoops! Well, here's an AI to fulfill his role! Because all the stuff involving Alter-Ego keeps finding new ways to break my suspension of disbelief. Every time I re-suspend my disbelief, new information knocks it back down. I prefer to believe there's some good writing in here and the game players are just playing Devil's Advocate. Last edited by Sute443; 2013-08-23 at 23:31. |
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2013-08-23, 23:48 | Link #42 |
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Once again you are seriously underestimating his capability. He set out to write that program in order to help decipher the info hidden in the laptop and managed to finish it before his demise, and you are just going to discredit his effort? Its said from the very start that the people here are highly talented in their own field. We saw him working on it before so it's not like its completely out of the blue either.
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2013-08-24, 00:08 | Link #43 | |
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Also, I'm not sure why Chihiro creating Alter-Ego in three days is such a big deal here. Science/Tech Genius-type characters in fiction very frequently pull off truly insane stuff. You ever watch Dexter's Laboratory? Or read a Fantastic Four or Superman comic? It's best to just try to roll with this sort of thing in my opinion.
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2013-08-24, 01:32 | Link #44 |
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Definition of Super High School Level Talent : Imagine for yourself the amount of talent a gifted high school student should possess. Multiply it by 100 as it is difficult for most people to have an accurate imagination. Then further multiply it by 1000 for the Super High School Level Talent.
As a gamer, it is great to see people come out with a myriad of theories, even better when someone think of theories we haven't thought about. It is also awesome if someone can manage to guess the future plot twists. But if someone is stuck in a dead end and keeps walking continuously with their face crushed on the wall. That's not fun to watch. |
2013-08-24, 04:01 | Link #45 | |
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2013-08-24, 04:14 | Link #47 | |
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That might have been the case here as well To add things to my point... Remember in that case, Byakuya was the one that changed Chihiro's position to the way Genocider Sho positions her victims. Byakuya would've been killed by Monokuma since he entered the girl's locker room if the rule wasn't overlooked
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2013-08-24, 04:17 | Link #48 |
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The rule wasn't "opposite sex can't enter eachother's changing rooms", the rule was "you cannot lend your ID to someone else". No rules were broken. Whereas in the anime it blatantly was. It is forbidden to break down a locked door. The door was locked, and the door was broken down. It is clearly an oversight on the animators' part and really shouldn't be viewed as anything else.
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2013-08-24, 06:00 | Link #49 | |
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I do agree that the lock was an error on the animation's part. I'm just stating a a point that can be used as an alibi on the animator's part
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2013-08-24, 06:17 | Link #50 | |
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Unless its to distract from the real cause of death? I am imagining the culprit watching the body slumber down and just decide to wack the back of the head couple of times for good measure can never be too safe I guess?
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2013-08-24, 06:43 | Link #51 | |
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2) If you hadn't realize, access to network was completely absent except in that very room the mastermind didn't know. 3) Remember that Makoto was still in the room while the masked person had to take all the documents. There was no guarantee for them that Makoto will remain unconscious while they are doing so, and they had to deal with many shelves. So it isn't far fetched to think they were too busy and in a hurry to check all the drawers and take care of the network cable.
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2013-08-24, 08:21 | Link #52 |
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I vote suicide as I really can't imagine anyone strong enough to take her down and poison isn't instantaneous. All of them are not strong enough to do the job even combined. Plus, Genocyber doesn't attack girls and Touko is a wimp. Yasuhiro is a wimp. Byakuya wouldn't dirty himself doing something like that. He wants to solve the cases. Last, she had a smile on her face.
I think that she used cyanide as it's a popular poison and easy to make/drink if the crystals were in the chemistry lab. http://safety.chemistry.unimelb.edu.au/cyanide.php She created a locked room scenario, took dose, vomited, passed out and died. http://www.health.ny.gov/environment...de_general.htm http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/81-123/pdfs/0522.pdf Locked room also gives her the advantage of having the almond odor and any poisonous gas byproducts dissipate before the others enter the room.
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2013-08-24, 11:01 | Link #54 |
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Isn't suicide out of the question because Monokuma said earlier that to die via suicide would be boring to his eyes and defeats the purpose of why he is doing this; therefore, he'd stop that person from doing so? Suicide would have meant that either Sakura caused the two blunt attacks on herself or intake something (like the poison she found on the lab), pushed the chair to the door herself, and waited until the effects of either the blunt trauma or the poison to eventually take effect before dying. The attacks had to be done by someone, and a suicide-murder theory would make sense if Sakura wanted the person to kill her to get out of here, which would lead the main suspect to be Aoi, assuming Sakura blocked the room up by her own accord.
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2013-08-24, 11:03 | Link #55 | |
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Also, there's no guarantee that the mastermind is perfect like you think he is, but that's not really important. I'm not really challenging all of your theories. Just the part where you say it's impossible for Fujisaki, who is a genius programmer and a leading developer on self-developing AI's, making a self-developing AI. |
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2013-08-24, 11:54 | Link #56 | |
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The issue is, in my eyes, no one really has reason enough to kill her. Togami was mad about the mole issue but there's no way he'd be able to take Sakura down and like it's been said before, he's not going to dirty himself doing this. Genocider, out of the question. Hagakure, too much of a wimp. Naegi, obviously not. I can't see Kirigiri killing her so that leaves Aoi who was her best friend. Even if Aoi is mad for Sakura not telling her the truth, I can't see her helping Sakura take part in this, nor even carry it out herself. She seemed generally shocked when the determined Sakura was dead. So either suicide or 16th student. Im really wondering who the trial is going to play out.
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2013-08-24, 12:26 | Link #57 | ||
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I believe I admitted in a previous thread that Fujisaki probably is meant to have made Alter-Ego, but that I prefer my own version of events. |
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2013-08-24, 13:35 | Link #58 |
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The story moves on to the 4th floor.
Things are getting more and more interesting. Looks like the hint from the previous episode came true. It didn't take long for them to get all weird. Wonder if Alter Ego's suggestion could actually help them.. I actually felt sorry for the latest victim.
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2013-08-24, 17:24 | Link #59 | |
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A suicide forum states that it takes seconds for the gas, minutes for the salts on an empty stomach and hours using the salts on a full stomach. And... apparently you can lose consciousness in 5 minutes, die in up to 45 minutes. I doubt that Aoi is the type to kill her friend. She looked genuinely upset.
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2013-08-24, 17:48 | Link #60 | |
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What is the motive and purpose to kill herself? Where does the evidence indicate that its a definitive suicide according to you. Maybe the killer poisoned her and bash her head as red herrings to create a diversion. Locked room means that the murderer is trying to create an alibi and not become a suspect. Its give the illusion that no way he can be in there and commit murder since there is no means to lock the place from the outside. So how does a locked room scenario which would indicate a murderer trying to create an alibi all of a sudden becomes a definitive scene of a suicide. Im kinda suspicious on how you came up with the idea of suicide. |
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