AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Today's Posts Search

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Discussion > Older Series

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2006-12-18, 18:11   Link #1301
tun
lolwut
*Fansubber
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
The ending wasn't as great as physics223 is making it out to be. How you like it will depend on what you liked about NHK.
__________________
Just some old fart passing by in the wind.
tun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-18, 18:37   Link #1302
physics223
In the Tatami Galaxy ↓
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
I'm sorry if I've implied that it was a really awesome ending. I'd say no, it wasn't - at least not compared to Honey and Clover's (if they're really comparable), but I'd say that it was sweet yet not saccharine.

But then, it's only the raw I've seen and I'm not as proficient in Japanese as I would have liked, so it may not really be as great as I'm making it out to be.
physics223 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-18, 18:41   Link #1303
Shiroth
Beautiful fighter.
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: England, UK
Age: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexo75 View Post
Is it possible to get my hands on the Soundtrack?
You can buy both soundtracks from CDJapan.
__________________
Shiroth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-18, 21:21   Link #1304
Ori
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Send a message via AIM to Ori
I am totally worshipping Norio Matsumoto from now on. I just realize how many of my all time fav. animation scenes are done by him. And the last episode of NHK just added a new scene on my list.

Animation aside, I thought the voice acting in this episode is amazing as well.
Ori is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-18, 21:59   Link #1305
wao
OK.
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: The Fields of High Attus
Age: 34
I thought Satou's voice acting was still a little odd here and there, but I think a lot of it is simply because Satou himself is an awkward character. He definitely did get the mood nailed down in some scenes. But I was so impressed by Misaki (Makino Yui)'s voice acting! Put great voice acting and nice animation together and you have Instant Win. The middle-ish parts of the episode really grabbed me precisely for that reason. She didn't sound whiny or like she was trying too hard to be cute - or even overdramatic, IMO - but perfectly agreeable (well for the situation the character was in).

I have to say though for all the nice animation, the directing was a bit flat. It started out well, with the irregular fence and all of that, but I guess there were one too many camera pans for my liking. It got a wee bit distracting. Though I don't know why, I liked the dampened feeling of the middle part in a strange way. It kind of made you think that this is not some dramatic theatric situation, but something you have to think about seriously. I just do wish they didn't extend that damp feeling even until the end, somehow it felt a bit funny... but that's just my opinion.

Personally if the sadistic and selfish side of me took over I would have wanted
Spoiler:
__________________
Thanks for the fish
wao is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-18, 22:05   Link #1306
Shiroth
Beautiful fighter.
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: England, UK
Age: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by wao View Post
I thought Satou's voice acting was still a little odd here and there, but I think a lot of it is simply because Satou himself is an awkward character.
When i first heard about a NHK anime, the first think i thought about is how they'll animate Satou - because he is in-fact an over the top character who has over the top actions.. i just couldn't see it happening.

With the anime now ended.. you can see that they had to change the style of the show from the manga for it to work.. example being the completely different Misaki we got, but if one part stayed the same.. it was his voice. Yeah i know.. no VA in manga, though when reading it i have this voice in my head for Satou, and Koizumi Yutaka (Satou's VA) was that voice in my head.
__________________
Shiroth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-19, 01:55   Link #1307
Phlaw
Romance Anime Demi-God
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Dallas. Tx
Age: 40
Send a message via AIM to Phlaw
Hello everyone, i know i might be the new person in the forums, but i was hoping for a little help none the less. I recently stumbeled across "NHK ni Youkoso" while shopping for a friend in a bookstore. Christmas gifts for active readers type of thing. well as i was leaving i happened to glance by the anime section to see if anything caught my eye, the same way Love Hina did a few years ago. I quickly became one of the biggest Love Hina fans ever still wishing to this day i could see more episodes of Keitaro. I digress, I saw a cute girl on the cover of a copy, skimmed a couple pages and figured it somewhat intresting. I tok it home and never sat it down till i was done. this only left me wanting more. I dont know for sure, but i think manga wise, only episode 1 has been released here in the states. well i decided to see if any shows had been aired, and lo and behold there are 24 of em. well i searched for a day and finally found 22 episodes. i watched all 22 in a matter of two sittings and cannot find the last two episodes anywhere. I was hoping, rather praying that someone knows where i can get the last two episodes. please help a new forum buddy out! thanks everyone!
Phlaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-19, 02:30   Link #1308
White Manju Bun
Anxious bookseller
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Shibuya Psychic Research
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phlaw View Post
Hello everyone, i know i might be the new person in the forums, but i was hoping for a little help none the less. I recently stumbeled across "NHK ni Youkoso" while shopping for a friend in a bookstore. Christmas gifts for active readers type of thing. well as i was leaving i happened to glance by the anime section to see if anything caught my eye, the same way Love Hina did a few years ago. I quickly became one of the biggest Love Hina fans ever still wishing to this day i could see more episodes of Keitaro. I digress, I saw a cute girl on the cover of a copy, skimmed a couple pages and figured it somewhat intresting. I tok it home and never sat it down till i was done. this only left me wanting more. I dont know for sure, but i think manga wise, only episode 1 has been released here in the states. well i decided to see if any shows had been aired, and lo and behold there are 24 of em. well i searched for a day and finally found 22 episodes. i watched all 22 in a matter of two sittings and cannot find the last two episodes anywhere. I was hoping, rather praying that someone knows where i can get the last two episodes. please help a new forum buddy out! thanks everyone!
Last 2 epis havent been subbed yet. Trust me, we're all waiting to see what happens (at least the non raw watchers) 23 should be out soon though. You kinda did the same thing I did. Watched 22 epis in about 2 days
__________________
Pandora HeartsManju's Stuff
"I will always remember
when the Doctor was me."
- 11th Doctor.

Sig by TheEroKing
White Manju Bun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-20, 00:26   Link #1309
tritoch
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Chi-town
hah.. damn you all! im on vacation and have scarce access to the internet!!!! I just got around watching 23 and boy it was GOOD! =)

I really disliked the middle part of the show cause it just seem to drag on and on and with passing episode, Satou is going down. Well hopefully we get a good ending.

haha, i didn't read any spoilers so forgive me for being late =p
tritoch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-20, 00:39   Link #1310
White Manju Bun
Anxious bookseller
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Shibuya Psychic Research
Wow 23 was amazing, I think its my fav epi of the series so far. I was totally blown away. I also love how they didnt cut to credits but just had them run as Satou runs after Misaki. This epi nearly made me cry and I dont say that about alot of anime. Far and away my fav epi.
__________________
Pandora HeartsManju's Stuff
"I will always remember
when the Doctor was me."
- 11th Doctor.

Sig by TheEroKing
White Manju Bun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-20, 02:02   Link #1311
Phlaw
Romance Anime Demi-God
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Dallas. Tx
Age: 40
Send a message via AIM to Phlaw
ahhhh! stop teasing me about episode 23, how are some people getting it before others, well regardless thank you for responding to my question.

1 more thing, anyone know about a season two? i know its rare that a season two is made, espicially after laying it down all on the line in the final two episodes. Love Hina let me down, please say NHK wont do the same!
Phlaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-20, 08:05   Link #1312
Shiroth
Beautiful fighter.
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: England, UK
Age: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phlaw View Post
please say NHK wont do the same!
NHK shall not get a second season - you'll understand that once seeing the end to the anime.
__________________
Shiroth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-20, 08:06   Link #1313
tritoch
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Chi-town
Heck, watch episode 23 and you'll see why there won't be any need for a 2nd season.
tritoch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-20, 08:16   Link #1314
SeijiSensei
AS Oji-kun
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Age: 74
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeijiSensei View Post
As for Misaki, I've always thought she has severe psychological problems. One can imagine from the scene on the beach that she may have been abused as a child; perhaps that's why she's living with her aunt. Her self-esteem issues fuel her fantasy about curing Satou. On the one hand, she reiterates to herself how she's a better person than Satou and thus capable of leading him to a new, more productive life. At the same time she fantasizes that, once cured, Satou will inevitably come to love Misaki and thus fulfill her need for someone to make her feel important. I don't know what will happen when these events fail to come to pass, but I don't think it will be a pretty sight.
Sadly most of the above was confirmed in episode 23.

Why didn't her mother run away with Misaki and move in with her relatives or move to some type of shelter? (Are there shelters for abused women in Japan?) No matter how depressed she might have been, how could she just abandon her daughter to her abusive husband? How could she not have foreseen that Misaki would become the next target, and a much more defenseless one at that?

Obviously at this point we can imagine a "love-conquers-all" type of ending, but I sincerely hope that's not the case. Misaki needs serious psychological treatment, not a statement of love from Satou. Nor do I think that suddenly declaring his love for Misaki would be good for Satou either. He may be lonely, but I don't believe he truly loves Misaki. His rejection of her final contract says as much. Moreover the beach scene suggests that there is some potential for abuse in Satou as well, much as he seems like a nice guy most of the time. What would happen when he discovers a few years later that he really doesn't love Misaki? Would we see a replay of the relationship between her mother and stepfather?

Oh, and why does he seem so unconcerned about his father's condition? When my father was hospitalized with coronary problems, I went to the hospital.

Glad to see he has a job though. I still think he'd be better off at the farm with Yamazaki.
SeijiSensei is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-20, 09:52   Link #1315
Shiroth
Beautiful fighter.
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: England, UK
Age: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeijiSensei View Post
Oh, and why does he seem so unconcerned about his father's condition? When my father was hospitalized with coronary problems, I went to the hospital.
I'm taking it as there's nothing seriously wrong with him, nothing has ever been mentioned about Satou's father being in anyway ill.. not even in the manga. So for Satou to be not be that worried, i'm guessing it might be just a bad cold or something.
__________________
Shiroth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-20, 10:04   Link #1316
Sorrow-K
Somehow I found out
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Age: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeijiSensei View Post
Obviously at this point we can imagine a "love-conquers-all" type of ending, but I sincerely hope that's not the case.
I do agree that such an ending would be trite, but can you really see it ending in a different way? I just can't see it ending in anything other than the most light-weight fashion possible, (ie, Satou and Misaki walking hand-in-hand into the sunset, with each of their respective issues magically evapourating in the face of their love for each other, etc, etc) given the tone of much of the rest of the series.
Sorrow-K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-20, 10:32   Link #1317
SeijiSensei
AS Oji-kun
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Age: 74
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiroth View Post
I'm taking it as there's nothing seriously wrong with him, nothing has ever been mentioned about Satou's father being in anyway ill.. not even in the manga. So for Satou to be not be that worried, i'm guessing it might be just a bad cold or something.
Well, it's serious enough that it leads to Satou's financial lifeline being cut off. Earlier when his allowance was halved, it was because his father had lost his job. Now he loses the other half because his father was hospitalized. True they don't say why he was hospitalized, but it sounds to me like his parents are expecting some big medical bills. Regardless of the reason, Satou is so immersed in self-pity at this point in the story that he seems totally unmoved by his father's condition. Hell, he doesn't even inquire as to what's wrong with his dad.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sorrow-K View Post
I do agree that such an ending would be trite, but can you really see it ending in a different way? I just can't see it ending in anything other than the most light-weight fashion possible, (ie, Satou and Misaki walking hand-in-hand into the sunset, with each of their respective issues magically evapourating in the face of their love for each other, etc, etc) given the tone of much of the rest of the series.
Sure, how about Satou rescues Misaki from self-destruction, then she agrees to be hospitalized. After some serious therapy, she goes back to university and begins a professional career. Misaki really needs some source of authentic self-fullfillment that doesn't revolve around a romanticized rescue fantasy. Satou then joins Yamazaki on the farm, and they become successful eroge and cheese producers. They take some of their new-found profits and help Kobayashi Megumi pay off her MLM debts. In return, she moves to the farm and becomes the President of their firm. She'd be much better at administration and marketing than either Satou or Yamazaki. Impressed with Satou's new-found direction and financial success, Kashiwa leaves her loveless marriage, takes the baby, and joins Satou on the farm. The four live together in a menage-a-quatre, joined occasionally by Puru Puru Puruin.

Last edited by SeijiSensei; 2006-12-20 at 11:04.
SeijiSensei is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-20, 10:46   Link #1318
Shiroth
Beautiful fighter.
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: England, UK
Age: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeijiSensei View Post
Hell, he doesn't even inquire as to what's wrong with his dad.
Satou's the type of character that would make sure if everything is okay.. he wouldn't leaving something like that hanging, i'm guessing that he did find out about what was wrong, and understood that it was nothing serious. Not adding it to the episode makes sense 'cause it would be a side cut to the story thats happened at the moment.
__________________

Last edited by Shiroth; 2006-12-20 at 11:00.
Shiroth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-20, 11:11   Link #1319
Radiosity
Sexy Tornado
*Artist
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The European Bunion
Age: 45
You know, after reading your idea on an ending there, SeijiSensei, I don't think I want to watch the last episode any more, yours is just perfect as it is We just know it's not going to happen though.
Radiosity is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2006-12-20, 11:13   Link #1320
Shiroth
Beautiful fighter.
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: England, UK
Age: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radiosity View Post
You know, after reading your idea on an ending there, SeijiSensei, I don't think I want to watch the last episode any more, yours is just perfect as it is We just know it's not going to happen though.
His idea for the ending might be good - but it no way works for NHK. :3

The ending we get already is good - it ties up everything so no questions could be asked about it.. its just not as good as i know it could be.
__________________
Shiroth is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
gonzo, psychological


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:29.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We use Silk.