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View Poll Results: Fate/Zero - Episode 15 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 65 | 58.56% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 36 | 32.43% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 5 | 4.50% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 3 | 2.70% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 1.80% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2012-04-15, 10:40 | Link #81 |
Wiggle Your Big Toe
Join Date: Feb 2007
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This episode had all kinds of you know what hitting the fan. Good stuff all around.
Saber's attack looks oh so more impressive with this high end animation. God was it glorious. Maybe he ate some gyrosphere treasure and now he has achieved complete equilibrium, who the heck cares he is Gilgamesh! Always best not to question his greatness. Not that a seatbelt would have changed his balance at all.
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2012-04-15, 10:48 | Link #83 |
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The Grail doesn't judge the candidates on their skills but rather their value as beings in fact (hence why Kirei regained his command spells).
To begin with, as explained before, Kariya is no real magus: he doesn't have any magic circuit and turned his back to the Matou, so having a makeshift magic circuit with the crest worms is only good enough to be a "battery" for Berserker, although at a steep price. And it is exactly despite this huge handicap, hardship but still a strong conviction and will that kirei took interest in him.
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2012-04-15, 11:07 | Link #84 |
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I think he does have magic circuits, actually. Isn't that why Zouken lamented that he ran away from the world of magic, leaving him with just his brother who had no talent at all? It's just that Kariya never trained as a magus, and never developed the circuits that he does have. So basically he had to use the worms to do years worth of circuit training in a month or whatever.
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2012-04-15, 11:09 | Link #85 |
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He does, I actually forgot to put a "trained/refined" adjective in my initial post OTZ. Crest Worms play a role of expanding the MC, but also filling the gap at the same time.
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2012-04-15, 11:17 | Link #86 | |
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However I don't think it's a spoiler to say that Kotomine's interest in Kariya has absolutely nothing to do with how strong Kariya actually is.
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2012-04-15, 11:47 | Link #88 | |
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But to understand his interest in Kariya better, it would have probably be a good idea to watch the BD version of episode 12, as they went into more detail in it than in the TV cut. |
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2012-04-15, 12:07 | Link #89 | |
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Kotomine, who is psychologically warped and his brain is wired that he doesn't gain pleasure from helping other people like he was taught to by his father and the church. Rather, he enjoys watching others suffer, he'd been in denial about this at the start of the season and found feeling like that morally repugnant, but Gilgamesh woke him up to his true self, and his "smiling" as he was reviving Kariya just to see him suffer more reflects that. |
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2012-04-15, 12:39 | Link #91 |
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He was the filler Master. Tokiomi said in the very first episode that the Masters the Grail chooses last are almost always the weakest ones. So Ryuunosuke basically ended up being a Master just so they could get the damn thing started already.
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2012-04-15, 13:35 | Link #93 |
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There's not much I can add to what others have already noted except:
1) I love how it doesn't feel like a single moment is wasted in this episode, but at the same time the plot movements are easy to follow. So it's neither too slow, or too rushed, just perfectly right. 2) Lots of great character moments all around. Gen deserves top marks for using the Holy Grail war has an excellent vehicle for multiple intriguing character studies. Now that these character studies are accentuated by explosive action scenes, they take upon them a greater drama and depth for me. 3) Good to see some real progression in the Holy Grail war, and I liked how Rider proclaimed that it would all come down to him vs. Gilgamesh. That was a bit arrogant of Rider, perhaps, but I also like how that shows that the competitive focus is starting to really tighten now.
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2012-04-15, 14:06 | Link #94 |
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my eyes are bleeding from how beautiful this episode was. when rider and archer were talking about Saber, i couldn't help but feel sad for her, because everything they said was true. but it made me smile because of the events of fsn. Caster's end was also surprisingly tragic. at least he saw Jeanne one last time.
and next ep, looks like we get our Lancer and Saber showdown!
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2012-04-15, 14:59 | Link #96 | ||
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Wondeful epi, everything was great. The scene with the light of Excalibur was just beautiful, espc falling around Saber's face. God I love Lancer. Next epi is gonna be painful I think. Quote:
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2012-04-15, 15:07 | Link #97 |
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That's because it is his own noble phantasm. If it could snap that easily, even Saber's Invisible Air would have sliced it like butter during their first battle.
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2012-04-15, 15:16 | Link #98 |
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Hahaha. I'm interested to see the people's reaction when they watch the conclusion of Lancer's and Saber's showdown, although it totally depends on how well they could animate their facial expressions (which should not be a problem). If this goes on my username is probably going to morph into Kotomine Kirei. The utter disregard of moral grounds is what I totally love from the Fate series.
And I don't think that Caster's ending was tragic. If you compare between dying a crazed madman who has lost whatever sight and belief he had when he was human, and to be able see again (or recall) the light and person he love, it was the absolute best ending Caster could've gotten. He found salvation in the end. Though I could not say the same to the next character to die in the series. Btw, the author of Fate/Zero is not Nasu, but a tragedy author that Nasu looked up to and adore. Thus it was rather surprising how well they had Fate/Zero and Fate/Stay Night fit with each others. Nasu mentioned in the Author's Notes that this friend author of his, for all of his overflowing writing talent, has lost his sight to see a better future and outcome in humanity. Thus all of the author's stories consisted of tragedies and black ends... He hoped that one day his friend could see them again. Random rantings below. Spoiler for F/SN bad end spoiler:
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2012-04-15, 16:13 | Link #100 |
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Probably because he's the only one who didn't use a relic (not counting Assassin, because Assassin is Assassin), so the Grail did a compatibility matchup. Everyone else used relics, so they get whoever they chose, regardless of how well they match up.
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