High School DxD Light Novel Feats Resource/Discussion thread

[Archilla]

Originally Posted by Krudelu

I don't think the mountain busting feat in volume 5 is a hyperbole according to the context:

Spoiler for Context from a novel:

[You don’t need that long. —Look, stick out your hand, and try firing a magic bullet like usual.]
Following Ddraig’s instructions, I stuck out my hand and aimed at Koneko-chan’s onee-san.
Doh! It fired in an instant! It passed right by onee-san and went far into the forest.
The next moment—. A red flash unfolded.
Doddoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooon!
The roar of an explosion ran from far away, and the blast even reached all the way here!
……Eh? ……What? I couldn’t react to this sudden event.
The poison mist was blown away by the blast from the attack and dispersed.
“Hahahaha! It’s been a long time since I’ve seen that red blast! Hyoudou Issei! An entire mountain far away from here completely vanished just now! Also, the barrier covering this area has been blown off as well!”
Tannin-ossan said that from the sky above
A mountain!? An entire mountain vanished!? I didn’t even fire it with particularly doubled power!?

If we're talking about the mountain he busted, it may be hard to assume it but I think its around the average mountain size or maybe smaller

I agree. My conclusion is that Dragon Blaster is simply far stronger than Kyoto busting.

[Krudelu]

Originally Posted by GDK1

I agree. My conclusion is that Dragon Blaster is simply far stronger than Kyoto busting.

Spoiler for Context from a novel (Volume 9 Life 4 Part 5):

"Disappear! Dragon Blaster!"
BOOOM!!
The shoulder cannons fired releasing an extremely massive blast! Even as I tried my hardest to maintain my footing, I could not stop the impact from the recoil, and it sent my body backwards...! I used all my strength to stop myself from flying away!
The high output energy was fired into the midst of the Heroes Faction!
"Interesting, I will take this shot, legendary dragon!"
Heracles stepped up in front, was he trying to take my attack--
"Don't take it! Evade!"
Cao Cao yelled and used the base of his spear to hit Heracles away from the line of fire! Cao Cao and the other members then swiftly escaped my attack.
Without hitting anyone, the cannon blast continued flying onward far away behind them.
KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
A large explosion shook the entire space while the city in the background was engulfed by the gigantic aura!
...The energy continued to spread, surrounding the entire city with intense light!
As the bright light faded, nothing was left! The cannon blast eliminated the entire scenery, and even the game field was affected and the artificial dimension began to show signs of distortion!
"...Destroyed the whole city! Hey! If he keeps firing, this dimension won't last!"
Heracles finally understood the power of my cannons, and cried out in surprise.
"Distorting the simulated dimension, yet this place was constructed to be sturdy... What kind of firepower was that?"
Siegfried stopped smiling and narrowed his eyes.

So at low end its at least city buster (Kyoto size).

It's easy to say that the DC can be more than that since it also cause distortion in the dimension made by Dimension Lost. If we factor in the dimension boundary (if there's one since from what I recall it only replicated Kyoto), maybe the boundary limited the expansion of the gigantic aura so I can see why it can be Large city buster.

[Archilla]

Originally Posted by Krudelu

Spoiler for Context from a novel:

"Disappear! Dragon Blaster!"
BOOOM!!
The shoulder cannons fired releasing an extremely massive blast! Even as I tried my hardest to maintain my footing, I could not stop the impact from the recoil, and it sent my body backwards...! I used all my strength to stop myself from flying away!
The high output energy was fired into the midst of the Heroes Faction!
"Interesting, I will take this shot, legendary dragon!"
Heracles stepped up in front, was he trying to take my attack--
"Don't take it! Evade!"
Cao Cao yelled and used the base of his spear to hit Heracles away from the line of fire! Cao Cao and the other members then swiftly escaped my attack.
Without hitting anyone, the cannon blast continued flying onward far away behind them.
KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
A large explosion shook the entire space while the city in the background was engulfed by the gigantic aura!
...The energy continued to spread, surrounding the entire city with intense light!
As the bright light faded, nothing was left! The cannon blast eliminated the entire scenery, and even the game field was affected and the artificial dimension began to show signs of distortion!
"...Destroyed the whole city! Hey! If he keeps firing, this dimension won't last!"
Heracles finally understood the power of my cannons, and cried out in surprise.
"Distorting the simulated dimension, yet this place was constructed to be sturdy... What kind of firepower was that?"
Siegfried stopped smiling and narrowed his eyes.

So at low end its at least city buster (Kyoto size).

It's easy to say that the DC can be more than that since it also cause distortion in the dimension made by Dimension Lost. If we factor in the dimension boundary (if there's one since from what I recall it only replicated Kyoto), maybe the boundary limited the expansion of the gigantic aura so I can see why it can be Large city buster.

Yep. That's the exact reason I added the +. It basically means it's even higher than the threshold, but not quite island level.

[Parry999]

Shouldn't dragon blaster be equal to Crimson blaster since queen gives the same magic bonus bishop does

[Archilla]

Originally Posted by Parry999

Shouldn't dragon blaster be equal to Crimson blaster since queen gives the same magic bonus bishop does

CCQ gives better management to power and makes Issei stronger overall. Best example is him going from Sairaorg easily crushing his armor/stopping his rook punches to Issei being able to hurt him.

[Parry999]

Originally Posted by GDK1

CCQ gives better management to power and makes Issei stronger overall. Best example is him going from Sairaorg easily crushing his armor/stopping his rook punches to Issei being able to hurt him.

Kind of makes triana a pointless powerup then Since an incomplete CCQ is all over stronger then it.

[Archilla]

Originally Posted by Parry999

Kind of makes triana a pointless powerup then Since an incomplete CCQ is all over stronger then it.

It's been made clear he needs to master the aspects of Triana to master CCQ.

[Parry999]

Originally Posted by GDK1

It's been made clear he needs to master the aspects of Triana to master CCQ.

Yeah but we never see kazuya aoi train in it his always using CCQ

[Archilla]

Originally Posted by Parry999

Yeah but we never see kazuya aoi train in it his always using CCQ

Kazuya Aoi is the MC of Freezing. Issei Hyoudou is the MC of DxD.

[Parry999]

Originally Posted by GDK1

Kazuya Aoi is the MC of Freezing. Issei Hyoudou is the MC of DxD.

LOL You didn't see what i did there did you lol

[Archilla]

Originally Posted by Parry999

LOL You didn't see what i did there did you lol

You just making the Josh Grelle joke? I appreciate it, heh, but unless you're talking about the Dub that's hard to notice.

[Parry999]

Plus Sairaorg was in balance breaker in the CCQ fight he wasn't when he fight triana. Sairaorg Deserves his own true queen for all his hard work.

[Hk1117]

Originally Posted by Parry999

Plus Sairaorg was in balance breaker in the CCQ fight he wasn't when he fight triana. Sairaorg Deserves his own true queen for all his hard work.

Sairaorg base = Ise in Welsh Dragonic Rook
Sairaorg BB > Ise True Queen.

I don't see the point.

[Tbolt]

Originally Posted by Hk1117

Sairaorg base = Ise in Welsh Dragonic Rook
Sairaorg BB > Ise True Queen.

I don't see the point.

Ise fought Sairaorg on an equal level when he just manifested CCQ (true queen), so that tell you how powerful CCQ is. And now he has mastered CCQ to an even greater level.

[Hk1117]

Originally Posted by Tbolt

Ise fought Sairaorg on an equal level when he just manifested CCQ (true queen), so that tell you how powerful CCQ is. And now he has mastered CCQ to an even greater level.

He was barely holding up in the fight. What good is being host to a heavenly dragon when you have to pull out all available power just to barely fight a lion?

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by Hk1117

He was barely holding up in the fight. What good is being host to a heavenly dragon when you have to pull out all available power just to barely fight a lion?

You rather severely underestimate Sairoarg and severely overestimate Issei at the time. Sairoarg is powerful the fact he fought kiba xenovia and rossweise and barely got a scratch the fact they needed to make sure he used the phoenix tears is rather terrifying. Sairoarg is stronger then Rias and by a long-shot. He needed to use CCQ and he knows it. As did Sairoarg.

[Tbolt]

Well the fact of the matter is you are both wrong and you cannot admit it. Sairoarg used an independent Longinus and was beating Ise in his base BB then the CCQ manifested and as Ddraig said

The defense of this armor still hasn’t been stabilized! It’s basically a crab that just shed its shell ~ The Queen form hasn’t fully synchronized with you!

and Ise fought head to head and beat him. I don't know what you read but you need to reread it again.

[Hk1117]

Originally Posted by Tbolt

Well the fact of the matter is you are both wrong and you cannot admit it. Sairoarg used an independent Longinus and was beating Ise in his base BB then the CCQ manifested and as Ddraig said and Ise fought head to head and beat him. I don't know what you read but you need to reread it again.

they were fighting with their dreams (and possibly even lives) on the line. Excuses like "oh this is new so it's weak" are reserved for those who want a means to escape from the fact that they failed, if they fail. It's a sign of weakness no matter where you apply it.

Sure, he beat him, but he himself was in no better a position after the fight. He just barely made it.

[Chichiryuushintei]

Originally Posted by Hk1117

they were fighting with their dreams (and possibly even lives) on the line. Excuses like "oh this is new so it's weak" are reserved for those who want a means to escape from the fact that they failed, if they fail. It's a sign of weakness no matter where you apply it.

Sure, he beat him, but he himself was in no better a position after the fight. He just barely made it.

Sairaorg trained his whole life and is considered the strongest Devil of his generation even without any Demonic Power. Ise managing to fight in even grounds with such a monster after 6 months of training, and beat him when he got hold of a Longinus as well is already an amazing feat in it's own.

[Hk1117]

Originally Posted by Chichiryuushintei

Sairaorg trained his whole life and is considered the strongest Devil of his generation even without any Demonic Power. Ise managing to fight in even grounds with such a monster after 6 months of training, and beat him when he got hold of a Longinus as well is already an amazing feat in it's own.

I don't deny his victory, just the fact that he needed a crack in the wall made for him to be able to break it down. He's still too weak. Far too weak. y'all be giving him way too much cred.