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White Manju Bun · 2012-01-09, 19:57

Dear gawd I want more!!! Fabulous first epi!! Loved the vibe, loved the atmosphere. Hated the quick inserted doll screens

Also wasnt thrilled with Ali Project's OP...a bit too...fast and Ali Projecty.

Why didnt they show his grandmother?? You hear her voice but didnt see her. Dunno why but I found that really weird.

ars89 · 2012-01-09, 20:12

So i wonder how Kouchi's last name is related to a horrible death. Could it be his mother? They never mentioned how she passed away, but just that it was bad. Like how the 3 classmates welcomed him, that was so awkward.

Lol what a boring class to walk into. So the class rep forgot his name made sure to switch topics and keep Kouchi occupied after he was staring at Mei's desk. Even the girl got super worried after Kouchi mentioned Mei. Wonder why Akazawa would be mad?

Lol even Mei tells him not to get close to her. Doesn't she know that's a total invite. So she was delivering a doll to her corpse? I wonder what she was drawing as well. So she's probably a wandering spirit or ghost. Really liked the ED, OP was alright.

Chaos2Frozen · 2012-01-09, 20:12

From the Promo Video I thought PA Works would be using a grainy effect of older horror series, but to my surprise everything looks beautiful, from the scenery porn to the character designs this could easily be the prettiest thing I'm watching this season.

(The doll flashes were the most disturbing element and a nice touch I would add.)

Now on to the story, for an introductory episode it did everything perfect, from introducing all the characters, to laying the ground work for the back story, as well as leaving that little hint in every scene that something dark is hidden just behind every corners and every conversation. Don't need to beat around the bush- we know she's died so it's not like this is going to be [Sixth Sense], but what else have they not told us?

...Actually, wouldn't it be a cool plot-twist if Mel was actually a living person and not a ghost

? And the rest of the class were just screwed up?

Oh yeah, if I didn't do my research I wouldn't have figured that the same VA as Kamijou Touma, Mashiro Moritaka and Kosuda Takashi was voicing Sakakibara

That's a completely different voice than his other roles

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Originally Posted by ars89

Lol even Mei tells him not to get close to her. Doesn't she know that's a total invite. So she was delivering a doll to her corpse? I wonder what she was drawing as well. Really liked the ED, OP was alright.

Lol yeah, a cute girl telling a not to get close? Like hell he would listen

Marcus H. · 2012-01-09, 20:38

Wow, the episodes has a lot of conspiracies going on.

The teachers "briefing" the class about Kouichi.
The dreary response to Kouichi's introduction.
Several attempts to divert the topic away from Misaki Mei.

It's like the school is filled with dolls moved around by hidden strings.

The feel of the setting really helps with the overall creepiness of the episode. Not to mention that the weather was dark when I was watching this episode. And after finishing the episode, the sun began to appear again.

What is this, yet another conspiracy?

And I think the both the OP and ED does not mix well with the feel of the series.

Chaos2Frozen · 2012-01-09, 20:49

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

And I think the both the OP and ED does not mix well with the feel of the series.

The ED gives a sense of hope that there will be a (relatively) happy ending for this story, so I have no problem with it.

I never liked Ali Project to begin with so I had zero expectations for it.

Haak · 2012-01-09, 20:55

You know what the teacher said about everyone graduating in good health? I couldn't help but notice that health (or rather the lack of health) seems to be prevalent. The MC had a collapsed lung. The twintails girl was off sick. The freckles guy had a heart condition. Glasses girl had a sprained ankle.. Some of those students looked really pale. The building looks really worn down. And finally there's Misaki and that eye patch. There seems to be a curse going on.

Kirarakim · 2012-01-09, 21:01

Oh that was wonderfully creepy. I just hope they can keep up the atmosphere and mystery throughout the run.

I also don't like the OP & ED but everything else about the episode was perfect. Although I do agree with Utsuro no Hako that I much prefer the manga designs (but isn't that always the case?)

Anyways I especially loved how Mei said Sakakibara at the end pronouncing each syllable.

Lumir · 2012-01-09, 21:10

Silent hill vibes from this one. Specially with that dark haired little girl and the "death" situation.

Hints as to what she was doing in either the boiler room/mechanical room/morg suggests it holds significance. As well as the dolls, the one she was holding was probably her delivery to her "other poor self" as she said.

I also noted that multiple children seem to have health issues.

An interesting watch, will fallow.

Marcus H. · 2012-01-09, 21:10

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You know what the teacher said about everyone graduating in good health? I couldn't help but notice that health (or rather the lack of health) seems to be prevalent. The MC had a collapsed lung. The twintails girl was off sick. The freckles guy had a heart condition. Glasses girl had a sprained ankle.. Some of those students looked really pale. The building looks really worn down. And finally there's Misaki and that eye patch. There seems to be a curse going on.

Yomiyama North Middle School confirmed for Yamaku High School counterpart?

White Manju Bun · 2012-01-09, 21:19

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Originally Posted by Haak

You know what the teacher said about everyone graduating in good health? I couldn't help but notice that health (or rather the lack of health) seems to be prevalent. The MC had a collapsed lung. The twintails girl was off sick. The freckles guy had a heart condition. Glasses girl had a sprained ankle.. Some of those students looked really pale. The building looks really worn down. And finally there's Misaki and that eye patch. There seems to be a curse going on.

That part stood out to me as well and with what Mei said about Class 3 and death it makes sense the teachers would say that.

Kirarakim · 2012-01-09, 21:31

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Originally Posted by LKK

I don't think the missing #4 elevator button was a plot point so much as an atmospheric touch. Meant to add to the creepiness factor rather than to indicate some weird and possibly sinister happenings on the "nonexistent" 4th floor. (If there weren't such a standing superstition in Japan about the number 4, that would have been my explanation for a missing floor.)

Is it the same thing as the missing 13th floor on most buildings in the US (not sure about other places).

Although admittedly I never got this because you are still on the 13th (or 4th floor) no matter what you name it.

LKK · 2012-01-09, 21:46

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Originally Posted by Kirarakim

Is it the same thing as the missing 13th floor on most buildings in the US (not sure about other places).

Although admittedly I never got this because you are still on the 13th (or 4th floor) no matter what you name it.

Yeah, same thing as in the US. I never understood that floor superstition either. Like you said, there's still a 13th floor if you have at least one more than 12 floors regardless of what you call it.

From what I understand though, the Japanese are even more serious about the number 4 superstition than we are about the number 13. Some Japanese won't even say the proper name word for the number 4. They have some substitute word they use instead. Furthermore, if they hear you say it to them, they get upset. (That's the story I got second-hand from someone it happened to.)

Volcanic · 2012-01-09, 21:57

For those wondering about how Kouichi's name could be connected with death: it's highly likely a reference to Seito Sakakibara/the Kobe Serial Child Murder Incident. I'm really excited to see where they go, there.

Marcus H. · 2012-01-09, 22:03

That Sakakibara incident happened between March and May 1997.
It's one year too early, unless certain liberties were done by the author.

totoum · 2012-01-09, 22:08

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

That Sakakibara incident happened between March and May 1997.
It's one year too early, unless certain liberties were done by the author.

The original novel was released in 1998 (that's why it's set in that year) so the writer started writing it shortly after the incident and when it was first released the incident and name were still probably fresh in japanese readers' minds so they could themselves make the connection.

Marcus H. · 2012-01-09, 22:10

I thought it was set in 1996. Oh, lol.

Scarletknive · 2012-01-09, 22:44

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Noir... =_=.

I did mention that nekomimi in my post

Flower · 2012-01-09, 22:49

Wow ... very effective with the mood, the animation, the VA'ing and the music ... very, very effective. Just very well done, downright eerie and well told story. At least so far.

I am impressed. And I generally do not like "horror" type stories. 8 of 10 vote for me for this ep. Very well done without being "artsy" or "pretentious".

This one looks like a keeper for now.

Chaos2Frozen · 2012-01-09, 22:54

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Originally Posted by Flower

Wow ... very effective with the mood, the animation, the VA'ing and the music ... very, very effective. Just very well done, downright eerie and well told story. At least so far.

I am impressed. And I generally do not like "horror" type stories. 8 of 10 vote for me for this ep. Very well done without being "artsy" or "pretentious".

This one looks like a keeper for now.

I find that it's not so much of the 'horror', but the mystery behind the horror that I'm attracted to

And it's not only for this show...

Flower · 2012-01-09, 22:57

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I find that it's not so much of the 'horror', but the mystery behind the horror that I'm attracted to

And it's not only for this show...

Well - to be honest I am not much of a fan of "mystery" in general either.

But this seems to me to be a very well told story for the moment.

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ars89 One-Eyed Dragon Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NJ, USA	So i wonder how Kouchi's last name is related to a horrible death. Could it be his mother? They never mentioned how she passed away, but just that it was bad. Like how the 3 classmates welcomed him, that was so awkward. Lol what a boring class to walk into. So the class rep forgot his name made sure to switch topics and keep Kouchi occupied after he was staring at Mei's desk. Even the girl got super worried after Kouchi mentioned Mei. Wonder why Akazawa would be mad? Lol even Mei tells him not to get close to her. Doesn't she know that's a total invite. So she was delivering a doll to her corpse? I wonder what she was drawing as well. So she's probably a wandering spirit or ghost. Really liked the ED, OP was alright. __________________ My Anime List

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Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	Wow, the episodes has a lot of conspiracies going on. The teachers "briefing" the class about Kouichi. The dreary response to Kouichi's introduction. Several attempts to divert the topic away from Misaki Mei. It's like the school is filled with dolls moved around by hidden strings. The feel of the setting really helps with the overall creepiness of the episode. Not to mention that the weather was dark when I was watching this episode. And after finishing the episode, the sun began to appear again. What is this, yet another conspiracy? And I think the both the OP and ED does not mix well with the feel of the series. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

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Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	You know what the teacher said about everyone graduating in good health? I couldn't help but notice that health (or rather the lack of health) seems to be prevalent. The MC had a collapsed lung. The twintails girl was off sick. The freckles guy had a heart condition. Glasses girl had a sprained ankle.. Some of those students looked really pale. The building looks really worn down. And finally there's Misaki and that eye patch. There seems to be a curse going on. __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners

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Kirarakim Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Oh that was wonderfully creepy. I just hope they can keep up the atmosphere and mystery throughout the run. I also don't like the OP & ED but everything else about the episode was perfect. Although I do agree with Utsuro no Hako that I much prefer the manga designs (but isn't that always the case?) Anyways I especially loved how Mei said Sakakibara at the end pronouncing each syllable. __________________ Twitter MAL

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Lumir Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 37	Silent hill vibes from this one. Specially with that dark haired little girl and the "death" situation. Hints as to what she was doing in either the boiler room/mechanical room/morg suggests it holds significance. As well as the dolls, the one she was holding was probably her delivery to her "other poor self" as she said. I also noted that multiple children seem to have health issues. An interesting watch, will fallow. __________________

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Volcanic fire of fires Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Vesuvius	For those wondering about how Kouichi's name could be connected with death: it's highly likely a reference to Seito Sakakibara/the Kobe Serial Child Murder Incident. I'm really excited to see where they go, there.

2012-01-09, 22:03	Link #194
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	That Sakakibara incident happened between March and May 1997. It's one year too early, unless certain liberties were done by the author. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2012-01-09, 22:10	Link #196
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	I thought it was set in 1996. Oh, lol. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2012-01-09, 22:49	Link #198
Flower Blooming on the mountain Join Date: May 2010 Location: Deep in their roots, all flowers keep the light....	Wow ... very effective with the mood, the animation, the VA'ing and the music ... very, very effective. Just very well done, downright eerie and well told story. At least so far. I am impressed. And I generally do not like "horror" type stories. 8 of 10 vote for me for this ep. Very well done without being "artsy" or "pretentious". This one looks like a keeper for now. __________________