Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Character Creation and Discussion

[Kagerou]

*After reading 4 to 6 new pages of thread, falls down gasping for breath*

Is this the backlog you speak of? I've never seen a thread move so fast, except on 4chan! My god, am I expected to do this every day?

*Stares at argument about conscription*

Yeah, I'm not touching that topic with a 10-foot rusty halberd.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Sorry you just seemed to be clinging to this whole “uber force field of some kind makes us untouchable so we can pwn the TSAB with a single planet” thing and it was annoying me as it was against canon, against common sense, and pretty damn hax.

Before I make the mistake of time warping/uber force-fields (which I don't really plan on), just specifically what kinds of spells are in the Nanoverse? I mean, other than the ones used in the anime. Are there some mentioned in the manga/novels/Sound Stages I don't know about? My knowledge of any sorcery comes from D&D, which is a horribly broken system in its own right (Stop time for 4 rounds while I can do almost whatever I please? YES PLZ.)

I've never really like the whole "some tiny bad somehow defeats huge empire" cliche it make no sense and it's done to death. If you looked at allot of fiction you'd thinking being big was some kind of disadvantage in a war!

Well to be honest that's something that's kinda stuck with me. My dad shoved Star Wars down my throat when I was six, and so the concept of "Rebels vs. Empire" really stuck with me. *headdesk* Even though everyone and their brother will probably say the Empire should have won, they didn't. Being bigger apparently really is a disadvantage in war *shrug*.

Or maybe if you have enough guts and FIGHTING SPIRIT along with the TRUE SPIRIT OF MEN you can achieve anything .

Well the problem was you could then get quote trees half a page long... I've seen some boards that do that and it actually gets more confusing once you have like 10 quotes nested inside each other.

Fair enough . Although crazy quote trees are sometimes good for the lulz.

I will admit I missed it though you did just change it up slightly to "impregnable forcefield" which wasn't much better.

Oh, oh, this reminds me. Do any planets in the Nanoverse have anything like planetary shielding? Not necessarily global, as that'd be kind of pointless, but like, shields over key areas? (Major cities/industrial complexes/etc.)

They could try, but they'd never learn anything as they'd lack the tools even try and analyze it, fuck they wouldn't even know what the wings where for! Or why it was full of big empty spaces inside (fuel tanks), or... and so on. Even if they took it apart down to the last bolt it's debatable if they'd learn anything at all form it as they wouldn't even grasp the concepts of psychics that drive it's operation.

Acutally they probably never figure out flight from this as they have no pilots and don't even understand how something made of metal and weighing 20 tons COULD fly. (a perposturous idea to be sure!) so they'd never attempt to get it too, never mind they'd have no way to refine the highly advanced fuel it would require anyway. If it HAS fuel to start and they figure out how to start and attempt to use it they probably destroy it a fire crash very quickly thus ending any further study.

Actually as soon as I saw the beginning of this part the first thing that hit me was "oh fuck no pilots/fuel. Durrhurr."

I still think reverse-engineering to some degree is possible when presented with some advanced technology. In this case, maybe I could further advance their tech and give them some form of space travel within the system? That'd provide the basic understanding, wouldn't it? Or no?

Again it gets back to the fact that science is all interwoven and self supporting you can't just get one example of something and then suddenly have 15 other disciplines rocket froward as well to allow you to build it.

Right, right. It'd take years -_-. Or decades... or centuries. What have you.

Even a shitty F-14 knock off would demand massive advances in:
-Metallurgy
-Chemistry
-Psychics
-Construction
-The INVENTION of the entire field of electronics
Plus massive numbers of skilled workers which demands huge boosts in education and entirely new factories on a vastly larger scale which will demand still more innovation, and on and on.

I actually have no real comment except this:

You dare insult the F-14?! DIE DIE DIE! F-14 > *.
(Pretentious conceited F-14 fan -_-)

I've been through this argument a million times with people reverse engineering is neither easy OR fast unless you're already very close to the target objects tech level, but that's nearly never the case in sci-fi in which it's almost always used to explain a ludicrously large leap in capability in an insanely short time period which is WRONG.

This is something else that got me thinking of raising their tech levels. And then instead of a global civil war you'd have an interplanetary civil war *evil grin.*

A broken one that over simplifies the problem vastly?

Told ya .

And very limited in number a largerly illiterate populace is NOT acceptable for someone attempting to establish a high tech economy even technicians nowadays often have years of formal schooling at a level arguably higher then the greatest scientists of the 1800s.

True... well, how about this: a literate society that's on the verge of global economic collapse because of a sustained global or interplanetary war? Place the system out far enough (I think Lowegear or someone suggested 200 days travel in modern TSAB times). The Ramza incident occurs, slightly more advanced planet pwns the other habitable planet, and so on.

DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON TREKNOLOGY.

*Pops a vein before reaching over to grab a blabbering trekkie by the throat crushing it and then hurling his corpse into a flaming pit and clams down slightly*

Star Trek technology is an abomination of pointless technobabble, unthinking idiotic writers with all the science education of a 5th grader and the story writing skills of an 8th grader between them. It's riddle with outright contradictions abuse of terminology, utterly brain dead characters passed off as "experts", tech of the week that's never mentioned again despite it possibly being enormously useful, and bullshit techno panaceas to every problem.

Trek Science and engineering is STUPID science and it should be the LAST model you opt to follow.

Oh but they have stuff like the inverse flux trilithium warp capac- *brick'd*

http://stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/Engineering.html For some examples.

<3 this site.

Solid slugs would still be ineffective at any kind of stand off range since you're average space ship can move faster then what most think is the fastest possible speed a railgun could fire at (something like 6 kilometers a second). Plus the slugs are unguided so the ship has even more options for evade them. Also I'm having issues buying you can apparently riddle it with holes and yet it won't basically fall apart in a million pieces on atmospheric reentry... the hole that ripped the space shuttle apart was like the size of your fist for instance.

Mm, well, it was just an idea. If I do incorporate the idea of inter-system fleets, then maybe the incident could occur in a different method. Thoughts?

Acutally we do since the F-15 are 30 years old and nearly falling apart (many now operate under G limits because if pushed to hard they might literary fall apart in mid air). Plus the F-15 is actually inferior to many modern threat aircraft in terms of airframe (in electronic it still may have a slight edge) the F-22 is better at both AND cheaper to maintain going froward.

In the long run, yes. I was trying to put it in context to what was going on. Nowadays the F-15 is getting up in its years, but it can still off most of what its up against. I mean, we're not planning on going to war with nations that have Typoons, Flankers, and Viper Zero's.

A huge rail gun oribtal defense grid... that's going to be a harder sell.

To be honest, I've always seen advanced railgun technology occurring before laser weaponry would be viable.

The answer to the later could easily be "Somewhere around the next planets orbit" space being pretty damn empty is also pretty damn easy to look through they're is very little reason to get that close if you have a big telescope and a few antennae. It's also arguable they might have some kind of cloaking device against common modern sensors since no one seems to have noticed the big space cruisers orbiting earth for instance.

That's acutally canon for me they can jam and scramble most EM detection to the point of near invisibility. Which also forces them to attack each other close in... but I was just looking to explain the above, of course.

Maybe the captain made an error in judgment and ended up within sensor range? Or the computer's calculations were off slightly, not accounting for probability or some such (example: if sensor systems orbit the planet, they maybe the computer did not anticipate a subtle gravitational shift due to the planet's rotation etc etc. Like the space version of the Butterfly Effect. From what I understand, this occurs all the time.

Impossible to answer definitively, but probably not that big from what we see as the TSAB has some pretty advanced AI and we don't see tons of crewmen on any of their ships, in fact a handful on the bridge seem to be able to run it. This might be SLIGHTLY higher back then, but probably not that much I tended to peg it at the largest ships (nearly a kilometer long in my case) having naval crews of around 250 to 300,and some number of marines and possibly an air wing (if you use space fighters) for a total of like 500 to 750 people aboard, that's a battleship a cruiser would be smaller.

This makes me wish that we had a technical manual on TSAB ships or something.

Orbits decay SLOW, unless they where accelerating into the feild it could take YEARS, even decades for them to decay out of even a medium orbit and into the atmosphere.

The fact was though they must still have had maneuvering power as nothing that size could do anything besides slam into the ground like a falling asteroid if it didn't. Actually that would be a serious risk a 500 meter long ship that didn't burn up and struck the ground after an uncontrolled orbital descent and then possibly exploded on impact would be disastrous we're taking energy levels into the thousand of megatons. Needless to say not only might you lose a small country, but you won't be finding much useful tech after that!

...oh wow. I forgot about things like Impact Explosions. Jesus wtf is wrong with me. *headdesk* My apologies. Maybe this space-angle would be more viable?

Well I've always felt a quick verbal punch to the gut will get someone to listen better then dancing around for 5 pages trying not to offend anyone. It's good that you want to know about it, but some of this stuff could be done just by a little research or common sense.

Gomen, gomen, in a lot of those cases you were right, and a little research would have gone a long way.

I still find the idea of 90% of a population being able to be mages of any rank to be very unlikely.

Then cut the number by 2/3 or 3/4? What would be considered a high number but not a hax number?

The first incident was time critical by the time it was at the point it might have justified a larger force they didn't have much choice, but to go for it.

The thing is that if the Jewel Seed incident was soooo important (Lost Logia, Precia, Project Fate, etc. etc.), I think they could have mobilized two ships rather than one.

Part of me just thinks it was stuff the writers didn't think about at the time.

The BOD though is far less forgivable indeed, the threat was clear from the start and yet as you said one ship was all that shows up indeed many of us have argued this handling was incompetent. That said if Graham hadn't fucked things up they MIGHT have still won with little damage... Plus they had a bunch of AAA or near S rank mages around, from what we see the force of Chrono, Nanoha, and Fate was already way more magical power then most units could hope to have and if mages ARE rare then it's possible they just didn't have a thousand of them to throw at the problem to begin with.

I agree. In any event, it was stuff like this that makes me think the TSAB can be really crappy about sending what where to do whatever. Some of this was Graham, but I think some of it was shitty planning.

Or maybe it was overconfidence that Chrono/Fate/Nanoha could do it.

But then, I didn't think Nanoha was officially part of the TSAB yet? Granted, she had helped them in the past, but IMO an organization would be foolish to immediately trust someone that powerful, on an unadministered world, as to let them go off and do whatever. If Fate could be pretty much brainwashed by Precia (granted, it had probably been going on since Fate's creation) that easy at that early of and age, then safe to say the same could have been done to Nanoha.

If it was THAT close and so low tech AND racked by war subjecting it shouldn't have been to hard in fact most of the people would have viewed this is as blessing most likely. I just find it unlikely a planet SO close to Mid would somehow not be brought into the TSAB in a 100+ years.

That's why we're moving it to the UAW part of the Galactic Map.

99% of evidence points to, no, it wasn't and fanon basically say as much definitively. As was said if Belka was another planet then that means they would both have had large war fleets up to 300 years ago... which makes the idea of this planet teching up to that level form modern day in less then 100 even more unlikely.

So it's possible, however, very unlikely, that Belka was a planet? Got it.

I'm hell bent on flaming incorrect and bad Ideas, I don't really care who is purposing them you at all you seem alright actually, but that won't stop me from destroying your (or anyone else's) arguments if I think they're wrong though.

This isn't a bad thing. Like I said, I could be a whiny bitch about it, but then, nothing would get done.

These are the changes I’d make to keep some of the same idea:

1-The ship isn’t shot down it crashes after some kind of accident or another battle, the TSAB doesn’t come around because they don’t know what happened to it it’s effectively lost in space. This happens quite awhile ago perhaps around the time of the TSAB founding. This gives time for some teching without any time manipulation or force field bull crap.
2- The planet isn’t even near Mid it’s out past the fringes in an inhabited but barely explored region.
3- The TSAB dose find it many years later and notes it’s oddly similar tech and realizes what happened, at this point it dose perhaps attempt to get them to join the TSAB, and this could spark a conflict, but that conflict is like just them going “fuck you!” and shooting at the TSAB ships a bit which then withdraw.
4- The TSAB then basiclly says, “well they’re pretty small and pretty far away and they have just enough forces that we’d need to expend a bit of effort to conquer them… eh not worth it monitor, but ignore.”
5- Now they would obviously not see it that way and would probably keep rearming and such using the “TSAB menace” as pretense.

lol this is actually a good reimage of my old idea.

But it got me to thinking about something else too. What if this star system was one subjugated by the TSAB? As with all galactic (or part galactic) governments, I'm sure no one went peacefully. Maybe this system just would not stop harrassing the TSAB so they finally went "Oh fuck it" and pwnd the shit out of them. This would lead to further resentment to the TSAB, but it'd also give me a more viable reason for the Order of Freelance Mage's existence: Erusian mages loyal to the TSAB, not to their homeworld.

...This is kinda fun.
I'm making something for characters to be based off of. I haven't even gotten to the real characters yet! I could enjoy this

[LimitedEternal]

Originally Posted by Kagerou

*After reading 4 to 6 new pages of thread, falls down gasping for breath*

Is this the backlog you speak of? I've never seen a thread move so fast, except on 4chan! My god, am I expected to do this every day?

Welcome to the OC board. Don't worry, you'll get used to it. Or not.

[Jimmy C]

Originally Posted by arkhangelsk

Utilitarian ethics, however, will say that the potential benefits of elite mages is immense. When comparing the interests of Worlds to Individuals...

It's not just comparing the interests of Worlds to Individuals. Impressment is showing utter comtempt towards national juristriction. Not even something as grand as the TSAB has the right to demand the services of someone not bound to their authority in any manner.
You might argue that the TSAB's need for someone like Nanoha is stronger than Japan's need for her, I say no of their business if she rejected them and they have no right to do anything about it. Also, I'm satisfied that even you consider it immoral.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Saint X

@ Thread...

all this talk about the military must not continue any longer... if you wanted, go to the appropriate thread- not here in the OC.

Meh, doesn't really matter, it's not like we got anything else better to do...

... If Outer-Canaan is about the pursuit of Truth, Liberty, Knowledge and Joy, well I say let them go wild

[Tk3997]

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

It's not just comparing the interests of Worlds to Individuals. Impressment is showing utter comtempt towards national juristriction. Not even something as grand as the TSAB has the right to demand the services of someone not bound to their authority in any manner.
You might argue that the TSAB's need for someone like Nanoha is stronger than Japan's need for her, I say no of their business if she rejected them and they have no right to do anything about it. Also, I'm satisfied that even you consider it immoral.

Sure they do based on this timeless classic:
"Might makes right."

They have the right to do it because they can, end of story. Frankly this is just how governments work and people too for that matter if a weaker power has something a stronger one wants chances are they'll ask nicely and if they don't get it they'll ask again, with a gun to your head, and if you're still stupid enough to say no they'll just shot you and take it. Also how come Japan's claim on her is apparently stronger and more legitimate then the TSABs? If Japan suddenly decided to start impressing children like her to work in factories to aid the economy would that be somehow more acceptable?

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by USB500

Not even Null?????
*falls into Spartan well* NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU............

Null: VERSION II KICKUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!

*everyone watches*

Null: Nuu!!!!!!! This is not the type of character I am!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

*blink blink*


No he didn't He met her before...

Really? Judging from Jeno's cold monologues speaking of how he was before he met Spica, I must've thought he was already one then...

Whatever.

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

In anycase, who do you think we should have in this contest? The obvious few are....



01. Keroko
02. Maren
03. Mai
04. ???
05. ???
06. ???
07. ???
08. ???
09. ???
10. ???


P.S - Not a moe competition

For something that isn't a moe competition, the listed ones are more so moe than OTHER legit participants.

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

LOL SERIOUS ?!

Erm... Well do it again!

Erio's, Lowe's, USB's, Kha's, Reiji's, mine...

Obviously you haven't been doing your homework. :/

Originally Posted by LoweGear

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Maligayang Pagbabalik, Kabayan!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

Spoiler for Part 2:

She also held a lot of respect for the researcher, Reban Innova; who was responsible for bringing her and Aurion into TSAB service in the first place. She and Aurion both seem to feel a strangely calming aura around the elderly man. This person is also the one responsible for creating Aurion and Almaria’s custom devices, namely Vega and Altair. She considers the Spectral Enforcers as the family she never had.


Barrier Jacket: She was a most noticeable figure in the Spectral Enforcers, owing to the fact that her Barrier Jacket was the only one that wasn’t an offshoot of the standard Enforcer BJ design. Her outfit contained a mostly rosy white sleeved vest with lavender accents that reaches a few inches down her waist. Her arms had lightly decorated bracers, the hands having black fingerless gloves with white knuckle-guards and her combat boots were of the lightweight type and that reached halfway up her calves. Both bracers and boots had similar color schemes to her vest. Her legs were adorned with black cycling shorts that reached halfway down her thighs. She had it designed specifically to allow her maximum mobility and flexibility during combat.

Unsurprisingly, the outfit also had the added effect (actually a nuisance, according to Aurion) of drawing the eyes of the males in then male-dominated Naval Corps. Almaria, despite being a tad embarrassed, amiably brushed off the minor irritant as irrelevant when compared to the performance boost she obtains in such a design.



Device: Intelligent Device: Altair:

Spoiler for Altair looks somewhat like this.:

One of the two specialized experimental devices made by the researcher Reban Innova; the other being Aurion’s Vega. It takes the form of an energy pistol with two opposable barrels. It is outfitted with the then uncommonly used cartridge system, housing up to four cartridges at a time. It had design specifics that were only known to Reban. The A.I. has a young and polite male voice. Regarding its other specs, it has a high amount of targeting and control-amplification capability. Reban claimed that Altair and Vega would only work in their best potential when used by Almaria and Aurion; and this turned out to be true. Its portable mode takes the form of an A-shaped pendant attached to a beaded necklace.



Fighting Style: As mentioned above, her fighting style is like distinctively graceful trance. Where she seems to be simply swaying and dipping gracefully; very much like dancing whilst firing precision shots. Her movements are elegant as she seemingly weaves through attacks at a hairsbreadth of hitting her. Her barriers are impressively maneuverable, being able to deflect smaller shots and even acts as makeshift springboards if she needs to dodge quickly. Her most impressive magical skill though has to be her attacks. She oftentimes fire off moderate to high-power projectiles that are almost always quite small but have high precision and power. During close-quarters combat, when enough of these shots are in the air, an area of ten meters around her becomes an equally beautiful and deadly projectile-saturated zone. In this stage, she fully enters a trance where she dances inside the projectile deathzone, almost assuring that anybody else trapped there without suitable defenses is defeated in short order. Her degree of control over her shots is heightened by Altair’s specialized design, allowing her to control several dozen projectiles while still moving with apparent ease. Even to the point that she actually shoots herself with the controlled bullets, dodging them at the last second and making them hit her opponents instead; essentially using her own body as the enemy’s blind spot. The Lavender orbs of energy shifts at varying speeds, shifting and swirling, creating a tantalizing sight to behold.

Aurion seems to be the only person to be able to handle her techniques easily, seeing as how he usually works with her style every time they are fighting together. Not being an outright offensive mage, he tends to use pinpoint tactical shots on certain spots that allow him to stage a multi-step surgical strike. This exchange either ends up in Aurion getting hit by multiple projectiles and losing or managing to capture Almaria in a bind or hitting her with a high-knockdown power shot that ruins her mobility and eventually her trance, essentially winning the match (Aurion has been seen to defend well against Almaria’s bullets when she loses concentration). Amusingly, she gets mad at some instances where Aurion wins. Not because of the fact that she loses, but because Aurion always ends the said matches with binds on her, which she dislikes. Aurion does not change this style due to the facts that it’s one of the most efficient way in dealing against her ‘dances’ and also just to irritate her; even going as far as not releasing her for a few minutes even after the sparring has ended.

Her performance becomes several times more impressive when paired with Aurion. The two of them seems to share a strange connection that allows them to work together like a single entity. The extent of their compatibility is so great that when teamed up, they can take on enemies that exceed their overall prowess. Despite the number of Almaria’s bullets and Aurion’s illusions, they never slip in their synch and functions amazingly well.

Going by standard analysis, Almaria has the more powerful Linker Core of the two. Her focus is primarily on agile offense, preferring several lower-powered shots over high-power singular ones. However, Aurion has a noticeably faster casting time and slightly more powerful attacks than her. Her defenses are relatively decent. However, she is a bit lacking on the tactical aspects of combat, due to her reliance on her relatively omni-directional offense capabilities to cover her blind spots. This is the field where Aurion clearly trumps her aside from having better defense and speed.

Her trigger phrase is, “Burst!”

Spoiler for Spell List:

SPELL LIST:
Offensive Spells:
Impact Bolt: This is her basic small-scale multi-projectile spell. It involves releasing/gathering energy around herself or shooting them from Altair. The individual units are controlled and move in a circular manner. She is shown to be capable of firing off and controlling around a hundred units of these. The power is relative to the amount of energy used. More power can be allocated to each unit if there are fewer units utilized. The bolts have a high impact damage capability
Attack: A max per unit
Speed: AA
Control: S
Range: AA+

Piercer Bolt: This is a variation of Impact Bolt. The bullets instead have piercing capabilities. The individual units are controlled and move in a circular manner. She is shown to be capable of firing off and controlling around a hundred units of these. The piercing power is relative to the amount of energy used. More power can be allocated to each unit if there are fewer units utilized.
Attack: A+ max per unit
Speed: AA
Control: S
Range: AA+

Impact Bolt: Swarm Shift: This is simply Almaria’s Shocker Bolt attack where she summons around a hundred units and almost instantly launches them against an enemy. Two cartridges minimum are needed to use. This spell’s decent casting speed is ideal for launching a quick bombardment of energy projectiles. Almaria can also control these when she goes into a crossfire dance.
Attack: A max per unit, AAA small area cumulative
Speed: AA+ casting, AAA when fired
Control: AA+
Range: AAA

Piercer Bolt: Hailstorm Shift: This is simply Almaria’s Piercer Bolt attack where she summons around fifty units and almost instantly launches them against an enemy. Two cartridges minimum are needed to use. This spell’s decent casting speed is ideal for launching a quick battery of energy projectiles. Almaria can also control these when she goes into a crossfire dance.
Attack: A+ max per unit, AAA+ small area cumulative
Speed: AA casting, AAA+ when fired
Control: AA+
Range: AA

Kinetic Buster: Almaria’s standard Buster spell. It collects energy and fires it as a single shot of magical energy. The shot has high knockdown power.
Attack: A ~> AA
Speed: A+
Range: AA

Stinger Ray: A linear attack spell with almost instantaneous casting speed.
Attack: B
Speed: AAA-
Range: AAA

Stinger Snipe: A controlled Stinger Ray. It can be used to take down multiple targets. Almaria can use up to seven of these at the expense of some power and control.
Attack: A per unit
Speed: AA+
Control: SS+
Range: AA

Stinger Blade: Energy blades are gathered around the user and fired at the targets; detonating upon impact.
Attack: A+
Speed: AA-
Control: S
Range: A+

MEB (Magic Energy Barbs): A spell that is usable with Altair. It involves two high-power energy spikes extending from Altair’s barrel, allowing for quick melee attacks at close quarters combat. The barbs can also be shot if needed. A cartridge is needed for quick casting.
Attack: AAA
Speed: AAA-
Range: A


Defensive Spells:
Sentry: An auto-guard spell. Relatively simple but very sturdy. Used in one direction only.
Defense: AA-
Speed: SS

Sentry Powered: A better version of Sentry. It can be cast over a large area to protect a number of people or a sizable object.
Defense: AA max
Area: Five meter circle area
Speed: AA+

Round Shield: A powerful shield that can withstand a prolonged attack. Almaria can use these as impromptu springboards when in need of quick boosts. Her shields are very mobile.
Defense: AAA-
Area: Up to two and a half meters
Speed: S


Capture Spells:
Chain Bind: A simple bind using magical chains.
Binding power: A+
Binding speed: A+
Range: AA
Control: S

Ring Bind: A number of restriction rings surrounds an opponent’s limbs and holds them in place.
Binding power: AA
Binding speed: A+
Range: A+

Long Range Bind: It is a type of bind that can be used to restrict targets even at sniping range.
Binding power: AA+
Binding speed: AAA
Range: S

Struggle Bind: A very powerful bind that serves as a magical ‘ground‘. It can restrict a target from using their magical capabilities. It can also dispel magical effects like Transformation Magic.
Binding power: AAA
Binding speed: B
Range: B


Support/Tactical Spells:
Physical Heal: A simple healing spell for simple injuries. Has a light anesthetic effect.

Bind Break: Used to break a bind. The time it takes to break the bind is relative on the complexity of the bind used.

Restraint Break Shot: Almaria directly shoots the binds on her or her allies to break them.
Breaking power: Depends on the bind to be broken
Speed: AA
Range: AA

Area Search: An area scan and tracking spell. Altair is efficient in this.

Whew. She was quite an excellent mage...
Up next, young! Aurion's profile!

Almaria practices ZTS!?

Anyway, good details on the overalls. Though now that I look at it, I've noticed that everyone here while list the level of attack and all for their spells, don't exactly list the spell level on its own standard overall.

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

And now, for young!Aurion's profile!

Spoiler for Young Aurion:

Name: Aurion Dauer
Nickname: Ace of Heartless/Hell’s Inquisitor
Callsign: Spectrum 3
Gender: Male
Age: 17 (17 years prior to StrikerS)
Birthday: 29th March in the Earth Calendar
Occupation/s: TSAB Enforcer
Rankings: Registered mage ranking: Air mage: AAA+
Height: 5’11"
Weight: 162 lbs.
Eyes: Black
Hair: Dark blue, unkempt
Magic Style: Mid-Childa
Magic Color: Cobalt Blue in different hues
Usual wear: TSAB Naval Forces Uniform
Specialization: Frontline Tactical Support
Devices: Intelligent Device: Vega
Seiyuu: Mamoru Miyano


Profile: A silent and brooding person. A childhood friend, and also Almaria’s boyfriend. Was recruited into TSAB four months before Almaria. He proved to be a very talented and diligent trainee, gaining favor from the infamous Instructor Austin Abrams of the Air Force due to his commendable grit and fortitude even under the harshest of trainings. He rose fairly quickly along the ranks, earning the title of an Ace at fourteen years of age. Despite his age, he was notoriously famous for his oftentimes heartless method against opponents. He first killed a person when he was 13. He got transferred into the Navy a year after Almaria, becoming Spectrum 3 of the Spectral Enforcers. This would be his last position before the Perfect Void Incident and retiring from the army.


Personality: Serious, taciturn and a bit tactless. The Aurion from seventeen years ago can be considered worlds apart from the current one. He’s generally courteous, but can be a terrible adversary when angered. His nature as a child is rather dubious, only having a very small social circle. He finds it difficult to trust other people, initially only trusting Almaria. He prefers the company of higher-ranked and generally older people, having a large amount of respect for several of them. His peers were rather wary of him, and his attitude did little to help quell the cautious regards. Regardless, he was clear-headed and has a soft spot for kids. He generally talks with others in a polite but emotionless tone. He had a lot of interest in Device-mechanics, and took his free time as an occasional assistant to the researcher and Device-manufacturer, Reban Innova.

On a more positive note, he has somewhat lightened up through the years, thanks to the influence of other members of the Spectral Enforcers; although his abilities of sarcasm has also grown. As a soldier, he is considered to be a workaholic. To further this point, he also had a bad habit of pushing himself too much when work is involved. He's also very frugal about mundane tasks. His things are usually kept orderly. He can cook if need be, but he never bothers in making the dishes attractive. He has a bit of a soft spot for children, especially orphans such as himself. He also gets rather embarrassed when subjected to doting by elderly people.

His moral code was very utilitarian, as he had no qualms about killing a few to save several others. Almaria was very worried of this fact, remembering that Aurion was quite disturbed after his first time in killing a person. This is also the reason why he got the moniker, "Ace of the Heartless." He got his other nickname, "Hell's Inquisitor"; from the fact that he uses Willbreaker coupled with moderate to extreme physical torture when interrogating captured opponents. His main reasoning for being such is protecting those who are important to him and preventing more children like him in following the same fate.

Spoiler for Internal monologue:

I'm already a killer... But it doesn't matter. As long as those kids I know never end up like me. If I have to throw away my conscience in dealing with threats, so be it! Better me than them! Even if I've already become a demon, at least I'm sure I'm still able to protect what are important to me.

The only person whom Aurion seems to be completely relaxed around is Almaria. Even to the extent of taking an almost 180 degree turn in disposition. This includes actually being laid back and smiling constantly; as well as teasing her. Even when around other people, he never bothers to hide this change. Likewise, he was the only person the normally mature and professional Almaria acted completely relaxed and 'cute' with; most notably being comfortable in physical contact with him. They also like sparring with each other, with the score 35-32 in Aurion's favor.



Relationships: Needless to say, Aurion was an antisocial and cold individual to strangers. Even towards acquaintances, he rarely ever talks with them with complete sincerity, save for Almaria and some other people he respects. Gil Graham, Austin Abrams and the researcher named Reban Innova are some of the few people he holds complete respect for. The person he is closest to is without a doubt, Almaria. The reason for this stems back to when he was four... Almaria was the only person who bothered trying to talk and make friends with him, reasoning that they had the same birthday so they should at least get along well. Curiously, there was something more to their closeness than just being long-time acquaintances... A strange link that was forged between them ever since that day; allowing them a limited but accurate mutual perception. The reason behind this remains a mystery up to this day.

With that aside, his first ever, and only childhood friend was Almaria. She acted like a big sister to him, sometimes getting a reversal of roles in some circumstances. They complemented each other very well, one being stiff and emotionless while the other was bright and cheerful. As they grew up, their relationship only got stronger; culminating into being an item after one year of separation in service of TSAB.

They were really an almost perfect pair; both as people and as combatants. They worked practically flawlessly when in tandem, even at one time defeating two more-experienced S-ranked opponents despite the difference in rank, power and skill. Their abilities in combat as a pair was unbelievably good, one being a tactical and systematic aggressor and the other being a graceful range-attacker; both functioning as a single harmonized entity; almost as if having the same mind. Their lack of any melee specialization almost meant nothing when one sees them, as they support each other so well that they seemed to have a counter for just about anything, even covering flaws that both of them shared. In fact, they just worked TOO well as a team that it was almost inhuman. This was quite an oddity by those times; seeing as they seemed to be connected so well to the extent that they can actually feel each other’s presence when they are in similar locations… Some tests were run on the two, yet nothing out of the ordinary was found.

Unlike other people who've just become lovers, there's hardly any sense of shyness between them. There were also a very deep level of trust and respect for each other, assuring that they never let their adolescent impulses from taking their intimacy too far; promising each other that they will both wait until they are both old and mature enough to commit to each other. The leader of the Spectral Enforcers once made a comment that, "Che. They've just become an item. But from what I can see, their bond and understanding of each other is far, far better than most of the married couples I've seen."

He also held a lot of respect for the researcher, Reban Innova; who was responsible for bringing him and Almaria into TSAB service in the first place. He and Almaria both seem to feel a strangely calming aura around the elderly man. This person is also the one responsible for creating Aurion and Almaria’s custom devices, namely Vega and Altair. He would later also consider the Spectral Enforcers as the family he never had.



Barrier Jacket: Aurion’s Barrier Jacket was very similar to the standard Enforcer BJ design. The only noticeable difference was the darker color scheme with sharper details and a lighter frame. The performance of his requested design was significantly better than those of standard ones, allowing for good agility and defense at the same time.


Device: Intelligent Device: Vega:

Spoiler for Vega:

One of the two specialized experimental devices made by the researcher Reban Innova; the other being Almaria's Altair. It takes the form of light energy rifle outfitted with the then uncommonly used cartridge system, housing up to four cartridges at a time. It had design specifics that were only known to Reban. The A.I. has a young and serious female voice. Regarding its other specs, it has a high amount of targeting and control-amplification capability. Reban claimed that Altair and Vega would only work in their best potential when used by Almaria and Aurion; and this turned out to be true. Its portable mode takes the form of a V-shaped pendant attached to a chain necklace. Aurion carries it around by having it wrapped around his left wrist instead of his neck. This is for almost instant access to it whenever it is needed; enabling him to whip out the rifle-device with just a flick of the wrist.


Fighting Style: Despite having very decent magic potential and combat skills, Aurion preferred to fight tactically even on the frontlines. He liked using combinations of illusion and temperature manipulation spells, essentially confusing the opponent and holding them in place with simple but effective ice spells/binds to be easily hit by finishing blows. His defenses were solid, and his speed was pretty decent. His attack capabilities were more suited for single-hit technical blows rather than battery attacks. He had particularly excellent control over few high-powered remote shot spells; being able to control them even at semi-sniping range. When close quarters combat is unavoidable, he usually surrounds himself with some Stinger Blades and uses the MEB (Magic Energy Bayonet) on Vega in order to gain distance. Given the right position, he is capable of bringing down much tougher opponents by using opportune openings and observed weaknesses to strike.

His performance becomes several times more impressive when paired with Almaria. The two of them seems to share a strange connection that allows them to work together like a single entity. The extent of their compatibility is so great that when teamed up, they can take on enemies that exceed their overall prowess. Despite the number of Almaria’s bullets and Aurion’s illusions, they never slip in their synch and functions amazingly well.

Going by standard analysis, Aurion has the less powerful Linker Core of the two. His focus is primarily on tactical offense, preferring high-power singular shots over several lower-powered ones. He also has a higher casting speed and has higher power spells when compared to her. His defenses are standard but very sturdy.

His trigger phrase is, “Attack!”

Spoiler for Spell List:

SPELL LIST:
Offensive Spells:
Proton Bolt: This is his basic small-scale multi-projectile spell. It involves releasing/gathering energy around him and shooting them. The individual units are controlled and move in a zigzag manner. He is shown to be capable of firing off and controlling around a thirty units of these. The power is relative to the amount of energy used. More power can be allocated to each unit if there are fewer units utilized.
Attack: A max per unit
Speed: AA
Control: AAA+
Range: AA+

Proton Bolt: Tempest Shift: This is simply Aurion’s Proton Bolt attack where he summons around a hundred units and almost instantly launches them against an enemy. Three cartridges minimum are needed to use. This spell’s decent casting speed is ideal for launching a quick bombardment of energy projectiles.
Attack: A- max per unit, AAA small area cumulative
Speed: AA+ casting, AAA when fired
Control: C+
Range: AAA

Proton Buster: Aurion’s standard Buster spell. It collects the same energy used in Proton Bolts and fires it as a single shot of magical energy. The power of the shot can be increased when cartridges are used.
Attack: AA- ~> AA+
Speed: A ~> AA-
Range: AA

Stinger Ray: A linear attack spell with almost instantaneous casting speed.
Attack: B
Speed: AAA
Range: AAA

Stinger Snipe: A controlled Stinger Ray. It can be used to take down multiple targets. Aurion can use five of these at the expense of some power and control
Attack: A+
Speed: AA+
Control: SS
Range: AA+

Stinger Blade: Energy blades are gathered around the user and fired at the targets; detonating upon impact. In Aurion’s case, he has the options of using these as cutting/piercing weapons, as well as being used as a defensive perimeter attack units. He usually uses these as melee defense/offense units.
Attack: A+
Speed: AA-
Control: AAA
Range: AA

Stinger Blade: Execution Shift: An Area-of-Effect battery spell. It involves bombarding the enemy with hundreds of Stinger Blades, detonating them on impact or letting them pierce the targets.
Attack: AAA+ cumulative
Speed: A+
Control: C
Area: Up to around fifty meters
Range: AA

Blaze Cannon: Aurion gathers a considerable amount of heat energy and shoots the opponent with a sustained beam of blue flame. The attack power is relative to the amount of energy gathered before the shot.
Attack: A+ ~> AA+
Speed: A ~> AA+
Range: AA-

Frost Cannon: Aurion gathers a considerable amount of energy and shoots the opponent with a sustained beam of magical energy. The attack power is lower compared to Blaze Cannon but has the additional effect of encasing the target hit in a relatively thick layer of ice.
Attack: B+ ~> A+
Speed: A- ~> AA
Range: AA

Break Impulse: This involves concentrating energy in a weapon or a part of the body for an attack of high breaking power.
Attack: AA ~> AAA+ concentrated/small area max breaking power
Speed: AAA

MEB (Magic Energy Bayonet): A spell that is usable with Vega. It involves a high-power energy blade extending from Vega’s barrel, allowing for quick melee attacks at close quarters combat. The blade can also be shot if needed. A cartridge is needed for quick casting.
Attack: AAA cutting power
Speed: AAA
Range: A


Defensive Spells:
Sentinel: An auto-guard spell. Relatively simple but very sturdy. Used in one direction only.
Defense: AA
Speed: SS

Sentinel Plus: A better version of Guard. It can be cast over a large area to protect a number of people or a sizable object.
Defense: AA+ max
Area: Seven meter circle area
Speed: AA+

Round Shield: A powerful shield that can withstand a prolonged attack. They can be layered with each other when cast by twos or threes.
Defense: AAA+
Area: Up to three meters
Speed: S


Capture Spells:
Chain Bind: A simple bind using magical chains.
Binding power: A+
Binding speed: A+
Range: AA
Control: S

Delayed Bind: Pre-cast magical binds captures a target within a certain range.
Binding power: AA+
Binding speed: AA+

Long Range Bind: It is a type of bind that can be used to restrict targets even at sniping range.
Binding power: AA+
Binding speed: AAA
Range: S

Constrict Bind: As the name suggests, a bind that can also be used to constrict an opponent.
Power: AA+
Binding power: AA
Binding speed: A
Range: B

Struggle Bind: A very powerful bind that serves as a magical ‘ground‘. It can restrict a target from using their magical capabilities. It can also dispel magical effects like Transformation Magic.
Binding power: AAA ~> S depending on number of cartridges used
Binding speed: B+
Range: B-

Restriction Shot: Used with a Vega. It is a spell that allows most types of bind spells to be shot at long range.
Binding power: Depends on the bind used
Speed: AAA
Range: AAA-


Support/Tactical Spells:
Physical Heal: A simple healing spell for simple injuries. Has a light anesthetic effect.

Bind Break: Used to break a bind. The time it takes to break the bind is relative on the complexity of the bind used.

Area Search: An area scan and tracking spell. Vega is efficient in this.

Sonic Move: Increases the user’s speed dramatically (but only temporarily) to the point where it cannot be followed by the human eye.


Illusion Spells:
Optic Hide: Turns a user or a target invisible to the naked eye and common sensors.
Duration: As long as the user can maintain the illusion

Fake Silhouette: Makes a moving image of a user or another person or thing to confuse opponents.
Duration: As long as the user can maintain the illusion
Range: 700 meters

Mirage Hide: Can make something look like another thing.
Duration: As long as the user can maintain the illusion
Range: 700 meters


Special Spell:

Willbreaker: A specialized depressant spell. Aurion uses this spell to impede the target’s use of cohesive thinking due to directly sending impulses to the brain that messes up the several mental functions. Direct skin contact is needed on an area near the target’s spinal column. Aurion uses his hand in touching the target’s nape for best results. No long term damage is done to brain of the target as this spell only act like a potent drug. He used this mainly in interrogating; where he would use moderate to elevated physical torture combined with this spell to easily break the wills of the interrogated.

And now, for another scenario.
The following is a scenario right after a severe terrorism and kidnapping incident. Several of the subjects were too dangerous and were eliminated accordingly. Aurion got the majority of the kills, managing to finish off even the leader.

Spoiler for length:

…………… No longer a human…

A lanky figure can be seen slumped over a broken wall, his eyes covered by the fringes of his hair. He’s clutching a device in the form of a rifle. He was almost a statue, if not for the light heaving of his chest.

What made that bastard so different from the rest? How come his words managed to bother me this much?

His grip on his device tightens as he grits his teeth, trying to will away the maddening crazed tone from replaying in his head…

Shut up…

c’mon! kill me now! you know you want to!

Shut up…

this is just what I want if I don’t get to win! hahahaha! you’re just the same as me! killing is nothing more than second nature, huh, gaki?!

Shut up…

you say that those you protect is the reason for your actions, but the truth is… your just using this reason as the reason to kill more!

Shut up…

that girl… she means nothing when it comes to your work, don’t you thi-

“Damare!” the quiet but clear word burst out of his mouth as he slammed his fist onto the wall behind him, creating several cracks on the worn concrete. His heaving got heavier as he tried to regain his composure.

And that’s… when I killed him… Why am I having these doubts now? Haven’t I promised myself of a never-wavering certainty? Kuso… Naze da?!

~~~~~~~~~~~

“Ungh!” Almaria gasped and clutched her chest, surprised by the sudden alien pain that didn’t come from her. Aurion…

“Onee-chan?” the three kids in front of her simultaneously exclaimed with worry.

“Ah… I-I’m fine…” She forced out a gentle smile. But later looked over worriedly over her shoulder, her dearest friend in her mind…

‘Aurion… Do you need to talk?’

[COLOR="darkslateblue"]‘You finish the ending procedures first, please… I’m okay… I just need a break… That last fight took a lot more than necessary out of me…’[/COLOR

“No go…” Aurion then proceeds to speed up his flight.

“Aurion!” Almaria gives chase, though not having much luck due to his higher flight maneuverability. She would later give up and fly forward with puffed cheeks, with the intention of beating him to the base.

Aurion only stares ahead at his in a huff girlfriend while chuckling. A few moments later, the previous scenarios today would replay in his mind.


……………………


Not this crap again… That bastard’s last words are tenacious, huh?

you know you want t-
You’re wrong!

Aurion, slightly lagging behind the high speed flight, contemplated the recent events in his mind. I’m… not going to be like you… Aurion glances at Almaria’s lithe frame, which was flying a few meters ahead of him. He closes his eyes tightly as he concentrates on his sworn duty. I cherish the people and things that I must protect… This isn’t just my duty… This is my conviction! We may both be devils now… But I’m a different devil compared to you.

He once again opens his eyes, only to find Almaria’s face right in front of his. He wasn’t able to notice her slowing down and positioning directly opposed to him. “Almaria?”

“Aurion…”

“What are you-?” Aurion tried to talk but was cut short and rendered speechless by Almaria’s lips meeting his; eyes widening in surprise.

Almaria pulled back, revealing her melancholic eyes focused at him, “Daijoubu…” she said softly, just enough to let him hear her voice over the rushing air, “Don‘t let his words get to you… You are different… Because I know more than anybody else can; that we are important to you.” Her eyes shone with faith in him, “Dakara… Please stay the same… Our-…My reliable but silent partner.” She then smiled encouragingly.

Aurion could only gaze back at his girlfriend, an uncertain emotion in his eyes, “Orewa…” Aurion once again closes his eyes in deep thought.

“Aurion?” Almaria flies closer. “Are you al-Mmmphh!” it was her turn to be rendered speechless as Aurion kissed her this time. She let out a breathless gasp, her face blushing brightly as he pulled back and grinned roguishly.

“You don’t have to worry. Since I’m already sure with the matter myself…” Aurion said while still grinning. Despite these words, his heart felt lighter and more reassured. “Regardless, thank you Almaria.”

Almaria blushed prettily and nodded while smiling. “Don’t worry. I’m always here for you, just as you’re always there for me.”

A small silence formed between the two as they stared at each other; their own personal resolve strengthening with each passing moment. Aurion would break the silence a few moments later.

“Ahh. But…” Aurion’s smile grew wider, “I’m still keeping this video!” he then held out his left wrist bearing Vega; watching Almaria’s face flush darkly before speeding away laughing. And as if that wasn’t enough, “I wonder how much they would pay if I had this auctioned at the base!”

“Ah-ah… I…” Almaria stammered as she saw him zoom away. She then shakes her head furiously and glowers at quickly zipping away Aurion, speeding up her flight as well, “AURION! Come back here, you baka!”

“Hahahaha!”

The rest of the team could only shake their heads in wonder at the laughing couple who reached them later.

Yes… as long as I have them… I won’t hesitate. I’m sure about this… This is all someone like me can do. And I’ll make sure I won’t fail!

And some combination attacks!

Spoiler for Combo attacks:

COMBINATION ATTACKS: Aurion and Almaria’s almost absolute empathic link allowed them for a number of combination assaults as a single unit.

Dual Turbo Blitz Strike/D.T.B.S: One of their combination attacks, this one being set as the ranged attack. Almaria would initiate her trance with more than a hundred bullets of mixed Impact and Piercer Bolts using two cartridges. She would then start advancing towards the opponent. Aurion would first engage one enemy up close; letting Almaria’s shots (all of which amazingly never even graze him) cover for his lack of melee specialization. He would then either bind or incapacitate the opponent with any appropriate spell (usually using two cartridges for best effect), falling back into Almaria’s blizzard of projectiles afterwards. At this point, he would join Almaria and her shots in completely mauling down the opponent with innumerable energy projectiles, finishing the assault when Aurion Sonic Moves behind the opponent and stabs the enemy with his MEB (using up another cartridge) and shoot him/her towards Almaria. She would then shoot with her own MEB followed by a Kinetic Buster (using up her remaining cartridges), blowing back the enemy towards Aurion for him to finish off with a cartridge-boosted Break Impulse. A definitive elimination maneuver, the target is not expected to make it out alive after this.

Eye of the Storm Assault/E.S.A.: The close-ranged variation of the first combination assault. Almaria and Aurion would simultaneously engage the adversary up close with a staggering amount of controlled shots. They would rely on their agility, Aurion’s occasional illusions and the sheer volume of the shots to avoid any counterattacks the enemy might try.

Finally!
This time, I sure hope he feels different from the current one. For the scene where he talks with the two kids, just imagine Setsuna from Gundam 00 talking with Gimmy and Darry from Gurren Lagann. Vega is based off Zeta Gundam's beam rifle.

And though unintentionally, I managed to put in even more rabu-rabu and some fanservice as well.

Comments?

More bluecheese! Looks like you've kept yourself busy, unlike me who's taking periodic breaks from writing.

Anyway... what should we call this Aurion? DereTsun?

Originally Posted by Keroko

Touche, however, do keep in mind that the TSAB has hundreds of worlds to look after, which would explain their understaffment. Also, service in the TSAB is optional, not mandatory (as shown by Yuuno) which means that not every mage will automatically be in the TSAB.

Now, I am not saying the mage population on Mid-Childa is 90%, I find that a rather high number myself, but something along the lines of 20 to 30% sounds far more realistic, if not a bare minimum for the TSAB to even be able to exist.

Concidering the gang-pressing, I am still disputing that. The source of the gang-pressing -the novel- has shown to dispute canon before, even going as far as changing events as they happened in the anime. I am having serious trouble believeing a source that alters canon material as reliable, even more so as the gang-pressing has been directly contradicted in the series, as they gave Nanoha a choice whether she wanted to become involved or not.

Well, I wanted to say something, but ark's intervention into this thread pretty much cites a whole lot more than what I wanted to say initially.

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

@Nighty: Signum... pregnant... More crack from the master! BTW, are you still going to make Zul a UD later?

Maybe~~~

Anyway, it's still early. Right now, I want to be going with foreshadowings first.

[QUOTE=Aaron008R;1236355]I was wondering wether to put it in or not, but I thought, "To hell with it!"
It's a running gag, if you think about it. Almaria, Hayate, Reinforce, Signum, some of Satty's female OC's... All victims one way or another of his binds when it comes right down to it. It IS a lot less of a hassle instead of trying to hold them down on those circumstances.

I am so expecting people to start twisting these words when they see it...



~~~

Preview!

Spoiler:

[Schweren Schaden zugefügt. Anfang der Ausgangsanzeige zu maximieren selbst Erholung.] [Severe damage inflicted. Entering standby mode to maximize self-recovery functions.]

His legs too, lost their strength, as with that last burst of power, not to mention the countless cuts near his knees, thighs, and feet, the crimson wounds on his leg were no longer just decorations as his legs dropped to their knees.

Preview II!

Spoiler:

[Jimmy C]

Originally Posted by tk3997

Also how come Japan's claim on her is apparently stronger and more legitimate then the TSABs?

Based on the fact that she's a Japanese citizen born and living under their laws on their territory since birth.

If Japan suddenly decided to start impressing children like her to work in factories to aid the economy would that be somehow more acceptable?

It would not. But they get first dibs on her services as rulers of the land she lives on.

[Liingo]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

And they're dropping one by one Good luck then

Thanks
Chances are I'll still be lurking up till the day that the exam starts...

Originally Posted by Tormenk

Didn't realize I had posted earlier on until I previewed my post. -_-

And something to try again for OCs, this time on the darker side. Credits to FlameSparkZ for bringing the original questionnaire here.

1. Pick any of your OCs to answer.
2. Plan out their responses
3. Results! And what you make of them.

Spoiler for The Questions:

1. Mental or physical?
2. Pain or pleasure?
3. What’s your strength/specialization?
4. Swords or guns?
5. Ever tire of anything?
6. Any terrible experience in the past or dark secrets?
7. Did anything that haunts you until now?
8. Made any promises? If yes, what was the promise?
9. What would you give to protect those around you?
10. Any commitments in life?
11. Reliant on any person/people?
12. Closest person to you? Who?
13. Abandoned anyone?
14. Hurt anyone before?
15. Hurt by anyone before?
16. Made any choices you wish you could change now?
17. Lost anything precious?
18. One life for another?
19. Would you kill anything that threatens the lives of your family and friends?
20. Killed any people close to you by your own hand?
21. Any final thoughts?

I'll get to it once exams are over

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

Knowing how it will end up in the future pained me for quite a lot as well. The more enjoyment I get from making their closeness clearer, the more phantom pain I feel when i think about the big picture later. But i won't let this stop me! If this is all I can do for my favorite female OC, then I'll do her eventual demise with as much justice as I can by making her as alive as she can be in the hearts of those who read about her!

Yep! I don't have anyting like that planned, but chances are I'll end up killing off some of my OC's in the future... Only if the time is right though.

It's still sad, though. I'm actually wondering wether I should do the profiles of the top two of the Spectral Enforcers. Based on Akio and Sanae from CLANNAD.

Akio = EXTREME Kamina-like charisma and likes to looks at cute girls. Also spouts a lot of nonsense at times but very intelligent.
Sanae = Motherly character. The only person in TSAB who could make Aurion embarrassed due to being doted upon (he used to have a weakness against being cared for by parent-figures. The trying-to-act-tough-I-can-manage-myself schtick.).

Basically Aurion and Almaria's parent-figures in the squad. But I don't know if I can take the pain of doing more characters with the same fate as Almaria...

Well they could die from food poisoning....
Combine Sanae's bread with Akiko's Jam.....

Oh shit!

*runs*

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Imagine Chrono walking along a street when he hears a woman answer her cellphone to THAT ringtone...

"Ah, Chrono-kun, dame..."



*runs*

WAHT THE!!!!

Originally Posted by Evangelion Xgouki

So...much...backlog

Been trying to figure out how to do a post like this for a while and I finally got a good idea . Takes place after Early Reflections.

Spoiler for Dreams:

"Sham~"

I looked up from my comfortable position on the couch over at the kitchen. Through the door I could see my mother smiling at me as she was doing the dishes after dinner. She didn't have to say another word as I immediately knew what she wanted. With a silent sigh, I roll off the couch and maneuver my way around my two sisters to go wipe the dishes. Sometimes I wonder why I have to do so many chores around the house while my sisters can just sit around and watch TV. Of course, the answer is always the same:

"You're the oldest and need to set a good example for your sisters. Plus you need to learn some responsibilities."

Even though that's why mom and dad tell me, I can't help but wonder if it's really because they like the free labor, a.k.a. their son. As I helped with the dishes, I couldn't help but glance out the kitchen window at the evening sky. Dinner tonight was a bit later than usual since dad was working late on some big engineering project at work. What it was, he really couldn't say. If it's anything like the other things I've seen him help make, it's gonna be very cool.

With the dishes washed, dried, and put neatly away I hang up the damp towel and flop back down on my original spot on the couch. Mom came in a short while later with her papers from work that she needed to finish. Dad was on the other end of the couch reading the paper for the day. My two sisters, Arael and Armisael, were on the floor watching some cartoon on the TV. I don't really pay much attention to what they watch nowadays as I don't find those shows as interesting anymore. Now anime, that's something completely different. That reminds me...I need to get a copy of that newer series from my friends when I see them at school.

CRASH

I instinctively dove of the couch as the window behind me shattered. My sisters screamed, diving for cover next to me at the base of the couch. What the hell was that? Some punks on a drive-by?

Lifting my head up, I took a quick survey around to try and find out what it was that went through the window. Besides all the shattered glass I couldn't see anything. The TV was black, but no damage to the screen. Huh...when did they turn it off?

"Come out, come out where ever you are~"

My parents were instantly on their feet and peering out the window. Apparently whoever it was that broke the window was still outside. I picked up my sisters and pulled them away from the couch towards the kitchen as I saw my mother heading for the phone and dialing for who I presume was 911.

"What do you want? Who are you?" I could hear my dad shouting out the window.

"You know what I want."

Turning my head I could see mom slamming the phone back on the cradle. The phone lines are dead? Just who is this guy? We don't have anything of real value in here...

My thoughts are broken as I feel my mother grabbing my arm and ushering us towards the rear door of the house. Like most houses here, ours had a door that lead out into the backyard. Made it so much easier to get outside than having to go out the front and all the way around the house. Rushing into to the backyard, I presumed we were going to cut through the neighbor's yard to get away. At least, that was until we saw a figure blocking out intended path of escape.

"Ah, I don't think so."

That voice...if was the same guy from outside! But how did he know we were going out here? How did he even get here so fast? I could feel my mother holding us protectively as she stared him down. He was an odd-looking man, maybe around my parent's age with his black hair pulled back into a ponytail. What got my attention was his clothes. It was...odd. Long pants with boots and some kinda cape attached to the waist. His jacket wasn't closed, exposing his chest and there was some kind of armor on his shoulders and wrists. Some kind of new clothing style or something? Or maybe some cosplayer on drugs?

Behind us, I heard my dad run out the door and stand between us and him. He held two broom handles in his hands, tossing one to my mother. I felt her stand up and then stand next to my father.

"Shamsel," I looked up at my father, his back still facing us, "Take your sisters and run."

To say I was shocked would be an understatement. I looked between mom and dad and then to my frightened siblings and then back to the man who remained in his spot, a smug look on his face.

"But..."

"Just go. Go and protect them as an older brother should."

I took a deep breath, letting the words and situation sink in to my mind. Slowly standing, I grabbed my sisters' hands and pulled them to their feet. The next thing I knew I was running with them in front of me towards the street.

"We love you, remember that," I could hear mom and dad shout as I ran, but I never stopped...I never looked back.

The road seemed so far away. After what seemed like an eternity, we made it to the road and made our way down the street. Why was this happening? Why now? Why to us? As we ran down the block, something poked from the back of mind. Where was everyone? It was then that I realized no one had come out to investigate the noise. There was no sounds of cars or birds or anything for that matter. What was going on?

I don't know what it was, but something brought me to a stop as I pulled my sisters in close. Next thing I knew the road in front of us exploded, showering asphalt and dirt everywhere. After a few seconds I looked up, making sure that they were alright.

"Tich...trying to avoid all the fun are we?"

That voice...I whip around and go wide-eyed as the strange man stands where the road exploded. How did he...? At that point, it didn't really matter how he got there, but rather that he WAS there. I grab my sisters and sprint off in the other direction, the small detail of him floating over the crater completely lost in the moment.

Running was all I could do at the moment, fueled by pure adrenaline and determination to protect my sisters. I didn't know where I was going, but taking a quick look around I found we had come back to in front of our house. Something was on the road up ahead. I couldn't tell what it was in the dark, but as we got closer...

I stopped dead in my tracks, quickly averting my sisters' eyes. No...it wasn't possible, right? This all just some kind of bad dream, right? As much as I wanted it to be, the bodies of my parents lying on the road in a pool of their own blood was very much reality. They had died to protect us...I had to get...

"Boo."

Jerking around I find myself staring at the stranger. Before I could do anything, he wraps his hand around my neck and lifts me off the ground. He was really strong. I desperately try to free myself, kicking and clawing at whatever I could reach as he laughed.

"Aw...how cute. Since those two didn't have it...that must mean one of you does."

'It'? What is 'it'? Behind me I could hear feet running on the road. They must be trying to get away Maybe if I can keep his focus on me...

Sharp screams catch my attention as I desperately try to see what happened. He couldn't have done anything to them! He was standing in the same spot holding onto me! Did he have a partner or something? A twin? As if to brag, he turns me so I can see behind me. This...wasn't possible. How could...this be?

"It's just a simple magic bind. Or are you just trying to feign your ignorance, owner of the Book of Darkness?"

Magic? Bind? Book of Darkness? What...what was going on? What was he talking about? Magic doesn't exist! But...I couldn't think of any other explanation at the time for the bands of light that held my sisters captive a few inches above the ground.

"Hmmm...perhaps I might just need to 'persuade' you to hand over the Book of Darkness..."

I let out a sharp gasp as I find myself bound in a similar manner. Is this...really magic? Or maybe some black-opts government technology? My thoughts are broken as I see the man walking over to Arael, the youngest sister. He extends his hand and a...a sword of some kind just materializes! What the HELL is going on here?!

"Such a waste of beauty..."

The sound of slitting flesh...of screams of horror...of blood dripping onto the road below. It was all so sudden. I could hear my other sister screaming and...is that me? Yes, I was also screaming. I struggled desperately against the bindings, trying to find some way of getting out. My eyes...I couldn't tear them away as I could only watch Arael's eyes widen in pure horror, her mouth open in a silent scream. And then...her binds giving way, letting her slump lifelessly onto the floor next to my parents.

"Well, guess she didn't have it. Next~"

I don't think I ever stopped screaming. My pleas were left unanswered as he stood in front of Armisael, sword still dripping crimson fluid from its tip. I don't know why I couldn't pull my eyes away or even close them. Maybe it was the shock of the whole situation or maybe it was some of his 'magic.' Whatever it was I could only watch and scream as he ran her through.

Tears? When had I started crying? They wouldn't stop coming...the tears and the screaming. My family was lying before me...dead. He turns to face me, sword poised and ready.

"And then there was one. I believe you have a saying here, 'third time's a charm.'"

Everyone became silent. Maybe I had lost my voice, but my screaming stopped as I stared at my soon to be killer. I had failed my parents. I promised to protect my sisters...to be the big brother and keep them safe. I failed...I failed them...to keep them safe...to protect them. The sword was thrust forward to wards me chest to end it all...

And I screamed.

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Shamsel bolted upright in bed, eyes wide in terror and mouth open in a silent scream. His breathing was raged and quick as his eyes slowly adjusted to the dim light of the room. Trying to calm himself down, he closes his eyes and takes deep breaths. His clothes were soaked in a cold sweat, some still dripping him his forehead...no it wasn't sweat. It was tears.

A quick glance at his clock showed it was 10 minutes before he usually awoke. The images...the sounds...the feelings were all still fresh in his mind. He brings his knees up to his chest and wraps his arms around them as he buries his face in his knees...

...and cries.

If someone had been there, the might have heard him silently mumbling to himself as the tear continued to come:

"I failed to protect you...I'm sorry...I'm sorry...I'm sorry..."

The tears would continue to come until his morning alarm went off, signaling the start of a new day.

Whoa.

Talk about a shocking childhood... I assume that what happens next is roughly the same thing that made him transfer to the Rogues in the first place... mutilated corpses etc...

Good job on this.

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare

Currently pegged at 12K words. I'm pondering whether to make it shorter by dropping off the mock battle scene between Nanoha and Leona versus Fate and Hayate. >_>

Bluecheese supply running low.

That's absoulelty crazy regardless.... I wish I could write like that.

I'll be looking forward to it! Although if you release it anytime soon I probably won't get back to you until about 1.5 weeks...exams *sigh*

Originally Posted by Kagerou

*After reading 4 to 6 new pages of thread, falls down gasping for breath*

Is this the backlog you speak of? I've never seen a thread move so fast, except on 4chan! My god, am I expected to do this every day?

And this is just the weekend..

It can be much worse during the week...

Before I make the mistake of time warping/uber force-fields (which I don't really plan on), just specifically what kinds of spells are in the Nanoverse? I mean, other than the ones used in the anime. Are there some mentioned in the manga/novels/Sound Stages I don't know about? My knowledge of any sorcery comes from D&D, which is a horribly broken system in its own right (Stop time for 4 rounds while I can do almost whatever I please? YES PLZ.)

From what I've seen, there's not many other spells that have been mentioned. You'll have to do what the rest of us have done and make them up.

Although anything like that D&D spell above is going to be torn to pieces as soon as you mention it....

Or maybe if you have enough guts and FIGHTING SPIRIT along with the TRUE SPIRIT OF MEN you can achieve anything .

Yare yare.... another hot-blooded indivdual..... Like we needed more in here

Oh, oh, this reminds me. Do any planets in the Nanoverse have anything like planetary shielding? Not necessarily global, as that'd be kind of pointless, but like, shields over key areas? (Major cities/industrial complexes/etc.)

The only one that we've seen is the ground force HQ shield so it is possible.

No other examples from canon thus far... I don't think we're going to get many either. Since we don't even have info on half the stuff that's been mentioned..

This makes me wish that we had a technical manual on TSAB ships or something.

Alot of us do.... We've got next to no information about anything in the nanohaverse....

...This is kinda fun.
I'm making something for characters to be based off of. I haven't even gotten to the real characters yet! I could enjoy this

Well as long as you're having fun thats the main thing

Thinking about what you've written before posting here is a good thing. The cries to burn you at the stake will quiet down a fair bit... Basically anything haxx or illogical is going to be shot down in flames (in most cases) Unless you have a really, really good reason for the haxx.

Time for me to get back to work

[Kagerou]

Originally Posted by LimitedEternal

Welcome to the OC board. Don't worry, you'll get used to it. Or not.

If this thread makes me unfit for marriage, will you take me?
Wait wrong anime.

Originally Posted by Liingo

From what I've seen, there's not many other spells that have been mentioned. You'll have to do what the rest of us have done and make them up.

Although anything like that D&D spell above is going to be torn to pieces as soon as you mention it....

lol Time Stop is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to 9th Level spells. How about Apocalypse from the Sky, which does massive amounts of damage to everything within a one-hundred mile radius. Or Plague of Undead, which literally summons a horde of undead to fight for you. Reality Maelstrom rips a hole in the time-space continuum and sucks everything in. Black Blade of Disaster makes Bardiche's Zamber form look like a scalpel.

But I digress. Like I said, D&D wizards are way overpowered to begin with.

Yare yare.... another hot-blooded indivdual..... Like we needed more in here

THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH HOT BLOOD!

The only one that we've seen is the ground force HQ shield so it is possible.

No other examples from canon thus far... I don't think we're going to get many either. Since we don't even have info on half the stuff that's been mentioned..

Alot of us do.... We've got next to no information about anything in the nanohaverse....

That would be an interesting fan-project though: "The Time-Space Administration Bureau Technical Manual."

Well as long as you're having fun thats the main thing

Thinking about what you've written before posting here is a good thing. The cries to burn you at the stake will quiet down a fair bit... Basically anything haxx or illogical is going to be shot down in flames (in most cases) Unless you have a really, really good reason for the haxx.

Time for me to get back to work

I'll get better over time. It took me five tries to get Evangelion right, so I suspect that it'll take me a little while to get the Nanoverse down.

[arkhangelsk]

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

Based on the fact that she's a Japanese citizen born and living under their laws on their territory since birth.

That's deontological. Utilitarian will also account for the amount of Good Nanoha could do on Earth (pretty ordinary, another worker ... etc) versus the amount of good she can do in the TSAB (lots, approximately a 10 Order of Magnitude difference).

[Jimmy C]

Ark, I just knew you were going to say something like that. Who has the "right" to call upon the services of a citizen of a nation? The government of that nation or some government that has no juristriction over that territory? You can argue benefits all you want, but such actions show utter disrespect to national boundaries. They've led to wars in the past, as you have correctly stated, and are unacceptable behaviour for nations.

[Tormenk]

Originally Posted by Evangelion Xgouki

So...much...backlog

Been trying to figure out how to do a post like this for a while and I finally got a good idea . Takes place after Early Reflections.

Spoiler for Dreams:

"Sham~"

I looked up from my comfortable position on the couch over at the kitchen. Through the door I could see my mother smiling at me as she was doing the dishes after dinner. She didn't have to say another word as I immediately knew what she wanted. With a silent sigh, I roll off the couch and maneuver my way around my two sisters to go wipe the dishes. Sometimes I wonder why I have to do so many chores around the house while my sisters can just sit around and watch TV. Of course, the answer is always the same:

"You're the oldest and need to set a good example for your sisters. Plus you need to learn some responsibilities."

Even though that's why mom and dad tell me, I can't help but wonder if it's really because they like the free labor, a.k.a. their son. As I helped with the dishes, I couldn't help but glance out the kitchen window at the evening sky. Dinner tonight was a bit later than usual since dad was working late on some big engineering project at work. What it was, he really couldn't say. If it's anything like the other things I've seen him help make, it's gonna be very cool.

With the dishes washed, dried, and put neatly away I hang up the damp towel and flop back down on my original spot on the couch. Mom came in a short while later with her papers from work that she needed to finish. Dad was on the other end of the couch reading the paper for the day. My two sisters, Arael and Armisael, were on the floor watching some cartoon on the TV. I don't really pay much attention to what they watch nowadays as I don't find those shows as interesting anymore. Now anime, that's something completely different. That reminds me...I need to get a copy of that newer series from my friends when I see them at school.

CRASH

I instinctively dove of the couch as the window behind me shattered. My sisters screamed, diving for cover next to me at the base of the couch. What the hell was that? Some punks on a drive-by?

Lifting my head up, I took a quick survey around to try and find out what it was that went through the window. Besides all the shattered glass I couldn't see anything. The TV was black, but no damage to the screen. Huh...when did they turn it off?

"Come out, come out where ever you are~"

My parents were instantly on their feet and peering out the window. Apparently whoever it was that broke the window was still outside. I picked up my sisters and pulled them away from the couch towards the kitchen as I saw my mother heading for the phone and dialing for who I presume was 911.

"What do you want? Who are you?" I could hear my dad shouting out the window.

"You know what I want."

Turning my head I could see mom slamming the phone back on the cradle. The phone lines are dead? Just who is this guy? We don't have anything of real value in here...

My thoughts are broken as I feel my mother grabbing my arm and ushering us towards the rear door of the house. Like most houses here, ours had a door that lead out into the backyard. Made it so much easier to get outside than having to go out the front and all the way around the house. Rushing into to the backyard, I presumed we were going to cut through the neighbor's yard to get away. At least, that was until we saw a figure blocking out intended path of escape.

"Ah, I don't think so."

That voice...if was the same guy from outside! But how did he know we were going out here? How did he even get here so fast? I could feel my mother holding us protectively as she stared him down. He was an odd-looking man, maybe around my parent's age with his black hair pulled back into a ponytail. What got my attention was his clothes. It was...odd. Long pants with boots and some kinda cape attached to the waist. His jacket wasn't closed, exposing his chest and there was some kind of armor on his shoulders and wrists. Some kind of new clothing style or something? Or maybe some cosplayer on drugs?

Behind us, I heard my dad run out the door and stand between us and him. He held two broom handles in his hands, tossing one to my mother. I felt her stand up and then stand next to my father.

"Shamsel," I looked up at my father, his back still facing us, "Take your sisters and run."

To say I was shocked would be an understatement. I looked between mom and dad and then to my frightened siblings and then back to the man who remained in his spot, a smug look on his face.

"But..."

"Just go. Go and protect them as an older brother should."

I took a deep breath, letting the words and situation sink in to my mind. Slowly standing, I grabbed my sisters' hands and pulled them to their feet. The next thing I knew I was running with them in front of me towards the street.

"We love you, remember that," I could hear mom and dad shout as I ran, but I never stopped...I never looked back.

The road seemed so far away. After what seemed like an eternity, we made it to the road and made our way down the street. Why was this happening? Why now? Why to us? As we ran down the block, something poked from the back of mind. Where was everyone? It was then that I realized no one had come out to investigate the noise. There was no sounds of cars or birds or anything for that matter. What was going on?

I don't know what it was, but something brought me to a stop as I pulled my sisters in close. Next thing I knew the road in front of us exploded, showering asphalt and dirt everywhere. After a few seconds I looked up, making sure that they were alright.

"Tich...trying to avoid all the fun are we?"

That voice...I whip around and go wide-eyed as the strange man stands where the road exploded. How did he...? At that point, it didn't really matter how he got there, but rather that he WAS there. I grab my sisters and sprint off in the other direction, the small detail of him floating over the crater completely lost in the moment.

Running was all I could do at the moment, fueled by pure adrenaline and determination to protect my sisters. I didn't know where I was going, but taking a quick look around I found we had come back to in front of our house. Something was on the road up ahead. I couldn't tell what it was in the dark, but as we got closer...

I stopped dead in my tracks, quickly averting my sisters' eyes. No...it wasn't possible, right? This all just some kind of bad dream, right? As much as I wanted it to be, the bodies of my parents lying on the road in a pool of their own blood was very much reality. They had died to protect us...I had to get...

"Boo."

Jerking around I find myself staring at the stranger. Before I could do anything, he wraps his hand around my neck and lifts me off the ground. He was really strong. I desperately try to free myself, kicking and clawing at whatever I could reach as he laughed.

"Aw...how cute. Since those two didn't have it...that must mean one of you does."

'It'? What is 'it'? Behind me I could hear feet running on the road. They must be trying to get away Maybe if I can keep his focus on me...

Sharp screams catch my attention as I desperately try to see what happened. He couldn't have done anything to them! He was standing in the same spot holding onto me! Did he have a partner or something? A twin? As if to brag, he turns me so I can see behind me. This...wasn't possible. How could...this be?

"It's just a simple magic bind. Or are you just trying to feign your ignorance, owner of the Book of Darkness?"

Magic? Bind? Book of Darkness? What...what was going on? What was he talking about? Magic doesn't exist! But...I couldn't think of any other explanation at the time for the bands of light that held my sisters captive a few inches above the ground.

"Hmmm...perhaps I might just need to 'persuade' you to hand over the Book of Darkness..."

I let out a sharp gasp as I find myself bound in a similar manner. Is this...really magic? Or maybe some black-opts government technology? My thoughts are broken as I see the man walking over to Arael, the youngest sister. He extends his hand and a...a sword of some kind just materializes! What the HELL is going on here?!

"Such a waste of beauty..."

The sound of slitting flesh...of screams of horror...of blood dripping onto the road below. It was all so sudden. I could hear my other sister screaming and...is that me? Yes, I was also screaming. I struggled desperately against the bindings, trying to find some way of getting out. My eyes...I couldn't tear them away as I could only watch Arael's eyes widen in pure horror, her mouth open in a silent scream. And then...her binds giving way, letting her slump lifelessly onto the floor next to my parents.

"Well, guess she didn't have it. Next~"

I don't think I ever stopped screaming. My pleas were left unanswered as he stood in front of Armisael, sword still dripping crimson fluid from its tip. I don't know why I couldn't pull my eyes away or even close them. Maybe it was the shock of the whole situation or maybe it was some of his 'magic.' Whatever it was I could only watch and scream as he ran her through.

Tears? When had I started crying? They wouldn't stop coming...the tears and the screaming. My family was lying before me...dead. He turns to face me, sword poised and ready.

"And then there was one. I believe you have a saying here, 'third time's a charm.'"

Everyone became silent. Maybe I had lost my voice, but my screaming stopped as I stared at my soon to be killer. I had failed my parents. I promised to protect my sisters...to be the big brother and keep them safe. I failed...I failed them...to keep them safe...to protect them. The sword was thrust forward to wards me chest to end it all...

And I screamed.

----------------------------------
Shamsel bolted upright in bed, eyes wide in terror and mouth open in a silent scream. His breathing was raged and quick as his eyes slowly adjusted to the dim light of the room. Trying to calm himself down, he closes his eyes and takes deep breaths. His clothes were soaked in a cold sweat, some still dripping him his forehead...no it wasn't sweat. It was tears.

A quick glance at his clock showed it was 10 minutes before he usually awoke. The images...the sounds...the feelings were all still fresh in his mind. He brings his knees up to his chest and wraps his arms around them as he buries his face in his knees...

...and cries.

If someone had been there, the might have heard him silently mumbling to himself as the tear continued to come:

"I failed to protect you...I'm sorry...I'm sorry...I'm sorry..."

The tears would continue to come until his morning alarm went off, signaling the start of a new day.

So Shamsel had a backstory like this. Very well then.

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare

Uh, "it"?

[size=1]I have the strangest feeling when I said that ...[/size

That wouldn't be too far off I suppose.


Question at Chaos:

Might be wrong here but the Stain program is merely a offshoot of Sipher with him being the master program right? Would Sipher have the ability to override those with the Stain inside them at any time?

Oi, oi, I'm not a serial murderer.

Creation, not creator.


Tormenk IS: Perfect Confusion

Makes me kind of sad my ability to confuse people overtakes that of my specialty.

What the ...

DOES NOT COMPUTE!

Oh yes it does.

At least in Seto no Hanayome where a father does that to understand his daughter.

Currently pegged at 12K words. I'm pondering whether to make it shorter by dropping off the mock battle scene between Nanoha and Leona versus Fate and Hayate. >_>

The mock fight between these four sounds interesting enough but it's your call.

Another questionnaire!

Here's for Leona.

Spoiler for Answers:

1. Mental or physical?
   Mental.
2. Pain or pleasure?
   Neither.
3. What’s your strength/specialization?
   The mind.
4. Swords or guns?
   Swords.
5. Ever tire of anything?
   Not really, life is too short to tire of it.
6. Any terrible experience in the past or dark secrets?
   Plenty. And don't ask.
7. Did anything that haunts you until now?
   Yes.
8. Made any promises? If yes, what was the promise?
   Some, and you just have to ask, don't you? Not telling.
9. What would you give to protect those around you?
   My life.
10. Any commitments in life?
    None so far, but one imminent.
11. Reliant on any person/people?
    Mostly myself.
12. Closest person to you? Who?
    I, me, myself. Isn't that obvious? *rolls eyes*
13. Abandoned anyone?
    Yes.
14. Hurt anyone before?
    Yes.
15. Hurt by anyone before?
    Yes.
16. Made any choices you wish you could change now?
    No, I believe in the choices I make, even if it means hurting others.
17. Lost anything precious?
    Yes.
18. One life for another?
    If possible, no.
19. Would you kill anything that threatens the lives of your family and friends?
    If possible, no.
20. Killed any people close to you by your own hand?
    ... Yes.
21. Any final thoughts?
    Your questions are too difficult to answer now. Just read the story and you'll know.

Since the questions are so dark, Leona cannot answer truthfully, or she'll spoil the entire thing.

You did this on purpose, didn't you, Grinder?!

Looks like Leona and Katrina has something in common.

Yessss dark they are. While not on purpose, the questions in this list is predisposed towards drawing out the vulnerabilities the character answering them has. Courtesy of Grinder and his kitten.

Originally Posted by Kagerou

*After reading 4 to 6 new pages of thread, falls down gasping for breath*

Is this the backlog you speak of? I've never seen a thread move so fast, except on 4chan! My god, am I expected to do this every day?

*Stares at argument about conscription*

Yeah, I'm not touching that topic with a 10-foot rusty halberd.

Yes this is Backlog-tan, Saya.

4-6 pages are normal, abnormal ones include massive bluecheesium.

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Null: VERSION II KICKUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!

*everyone watches*

Null: Nuu!!!!!!! This is not the type of character I am!!!!!!

Where's FA? I need a scary onionhead emote.

Preview!

Spoiler:

[Schweren Schaden zugefügt. Anfang der Ausgangsanzeige zu maximieren selbst Erholung.] [Severe damage inflicted. Entering standby mode to maximize self-recovery functions.]

His legs too, lost their strength, as with that last burst of power, not to mention the countless cuts near his knees, thighs, and feet, the crimson wounds on his leg were no longer just decorations as his legs dropped to their knees.

Preview II!

Spoiler:

DestinyS?

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Meh, doesn't really matter, it's not like we got anything else better to do...

... If Outer-Canaan is about the pursuit of Truth, Liberty, Knowledge and Joy, well I say let them go wild

*wakes up*

Wuzzt? Did cha say somethunk?

*watches fly buzz past*

*swats one*

*falls asleep*

[Tk3997]

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

Ark, I just knew you were going to say something like that. Who has the "right" to call upon the services of a citizen of a nation? The government of that nation or some government that has no juristriction over that territory? You can argue benefits all you want, but such actions show utter disrespect to national boundaries. They've led to wars in the past, as you have correctly stated, and are unacceptable behaviour for nations.

So basically you’re saying that the right to impress someone into the service of the state is based on “dibs”?

Though even this is debatable sovereignty as we know it is based on being recognized as sovereign by other states. If the TSAB doesn’t recognize Japan (and it has little reason too) they might basically consider even non-administered worlds inside their space to still be their property. This is pretty much how the Federation in Trek seems to work for instance they’ve claimed a huge swath of space as “theirs”, but haven’t actually totally exploded never mind integrated the planets inside it into the Federation, which hasn’t stopped them from fucking with said planets when they feel like it…

Really TSAB basically controls the planet she lives on, oh sure you can get technical about it but fact is the TSAB could rule the earth in a second if it wanted too AND it’s protected it from outside threats before (incompetent or not earth could well have been destroyed, twice, if not for their intervention). So who’s to say that according to its laws it’s claim on any interesting individuals on a planet overrides that of any local government? Well actually it obviously dose and from a legal standpoint it’s not even an impossible position to defend at all.

This is allot like the debate of how "sovereign" the states in the United States are, in theory they're all supposed to be little countries unto themselves, in practice that ain't how it works. Also it maybe "unacceptable" now maybe, but it was SOP a few centuries ago shit it was common even at the turn of the century (see US army rolling on into Mexico when some bandits pissed us off) all these big shit storms over sovereignty and "international" law are a recent thing and pretty stupid anyway as anyone with power dose what they want and bullies people other people around (just like they've always done) anyway so it's all basically a joke.

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Tk3997

I won't defend that if it's true it totally self serving and immoral, but I wasn't even really purposing that, so much as drafting off Administered worlds, but even with that Keroko seemed to react rather negatively to the idea of ANY drafting going on.

Not really, I'm just using the non-drafted Mid-Childans as examples of contradictions to drafting being canon. My real gripes are two things:

1. The drafting of mages on non-administered planets. These planets are called non-administered for a reason, the TSAB has no authority over these planets. Though really, even StrikerS shows contradiction to drafting in general, as Subaru and Ginga had also been given a choice.

2. The canonality of the novel. The novel has shown itself to directly contradict and alter canon. The argument of it being the most 'recent' source became redundant when it was shown that StrikerS still uses the anime as its canon source. Anime, manga and soundtages are intertwined, and so far have not yet conflicted with one another. The novel has directly conflicted with the anime. Am I to believe a single story that is pretty much a 'what if' story compared to three other sources?

Originally Posted by Evangelion Xgouki

So...much...backlog

Been trying to figure out how to do a post like this for a while and I finally got a good idea . Takes place after Early Reflections.

Spoiler for Dreams:

"Sham~"

I looked up from my comfortable position on the couch over at the kitchen. Through the door I could see my mother smiling at me as she was doing the dishes after dinner. She didn't have to say another word as I immediately knew what she wanted. With a silent sigh, I roll off the couch and maneuver my way around my two sisters to go wipe the dishes. Sometimes I wonder why I have to do so many chores around the house while my sisters can just sit around and watch TV. Of course, the answer is always the same:

"You're the oldest and need to set a good example for your sisters. Plus you need to learn some responsibilities."

Even though that's why mom and dad tell me, I can't help but wonder if it's really because they like the free labor, a.k.a. their son. As I helped with the dishes, I couldn't help but glance out the kitchen window at the evening sky. Dinner tonight was a bit later than usual since dad was working late on some big engineering project at work. What it was, he really couldn't say. If it's anything like the other things I've seen him help make, it's gonna be very cool.

With the dishes washed, dried, and put neatly away I hang up the damp towel and flop back down on my original spot on the couch. Mom came in a short while later with her papers from work that she needed to finish. Dad was on the other end of the couch reading the paper for the day. My two sisters, Arael and Armisael, were on the floor watching some cartoon on the TV. I don't really pay much attention to what they watch nowadays as I don't find those shows as interesting anymore. Now anime, that's something completely different. That reminds me...I need to get a copy of that newer series from my friends when I see them at school.

CRASH

I instinctively dove of the couch as the window behind me shattered. My sisters screamed, diving for cover next to me at the base of the couch. What the hell was that? Some punks on a drive-by?

Lifting my head up, I took a quick survey around to try and find out what it was that went through the window. Besides all the shattered glass I couldn't see anything. The TV was black, but no damage to the screen. Huh...when did they turn it off?

"Come out, come out where ever you are~"

My parents were instantly on their feet and peering out the window. Apparently whoever it was that broke the window was still outside. I picked up my sisters and pulled them away from the couch towards the kitchen as I saw my mother heading for the phone and dialing for who I presume was 911.

"What do you want? Who are you?" I could hear my dad shouting out the window.

"You know what I want."

Turning my head I could see mom slamming the phone back on the cradle. The phone lines are dead? Just who is this guy? We don't have anything of real value in here...

My thoughts are broken as I feel my mother grabbing my arm and ushering us towards the rear door of the house. Like most houses here, ours had a door that lead out into the backyard. Made it so much easier to get outside than having to go out the front and all the way around the house. Rushing into to the backyard, I presumed we were going to cut through the neighbor's yard to get away. At least, that was until we saw a figure blocking out intended path of escape.

"Ah, I don't think so."

That voice...if was the same guy from outside! But how did he know we were going out here? How did he even get here so fast? I could feel my mother holding us protectively as she stared him down. He was an odd-looking man, maybe around my parent's age with his black hair pulled back into a ponytail. What got my attention was his clothes. It was...odd. Long pants with boots and some kinda cape attached to the waist. His jacket wasn't closed, exposing his chest and there was some kind of armor on his shoulders and wrists. Some kind of new clothing style or something? Or maybe some cosplayer on drugs?

Behind us, I heard my dad run out the door and stand between us and him. He held two broom handles in his hands, tossing one to my mother. I felt her stand up and then stand next to my father.

"Shamsel," I looked up at my father, his back still facing us, "Take your sisters and run."

To say I was shocked would be an understatement. I looked between mom and dad and then to my frightened siblings and then back to the man who remained in his spot, a smug look on his face.

"But..."

"Just go. Go and protect them as an older brother should."

I took a deep breath, letting the words and situation sink in to my mind. Slowly standing, I grabbed my sisters' hands and pulled them to their feet. The next thing I knew I was running with them in front of me towards the street.

"We love you, remember that," I could hear mom and dad shout as I ran, but I never stopped...I never looked back.

The road seemed so far away. After what seemed like an eternity, we made it to the road and made our way down the street. Why was this happening? Why now? Why to us? As we ran down the block, something poked from the back of mind. Where was everyone? It was then that I realized no one had come out to investigate the noise. There was no sounds of cars or birds or anything for that matter. What was going on?

I don't know what it was, but something brought me to a stop as I pulled my sisters in close. Next thing I knew the road in front of us exploded, showering asphalt and dirt everywhere. After a few seconds I looked up, making sure that they were alright.

"Tich...trying to avoid all the fun are we?"

That voice...I whip around and go wide-eyed as the strange man stands where the road exploded. How did he...? At that point, it didn't really matter how he got there, but rather that he WAS there. I grab my sisters and sprint off in the other direction, the small detail of him floating over the crater completely lost in the moment.

Running was all I could do at the moment, fueled by pure adrenaline and determination to protect my sisters. I didn't know where I was going, but taking a quick look around I found we had come back to in front of our house. Something was on the road up ahead. I couldn't tell what it was in the dark, but as we got closer...

I stopped dead in my tracks, quickly averting my sisters' eyes. No...it wasn't possible, right? This all just some kind of bad dream, right? As much as I wanted it to be, the bodies of my parents lying on the road in a pool of their own blood was very much reality. They had died to protect us...I had to get...

"Boo."

Jerking around I find myself staring at the stranger. Before I could do anything, he wraps his hand around my neck and lifts me off the ground. He was really strong. I desperately try to free myself, kicking and clawing at whatever I could reach as he laughed.

"Aw...how cute. Since those two didn't have it...that must mean one of you does."

'It'? What is 'it'? Behind me I could hear feet running on the road. They must be trying to get away Maybe if I can keep his focus on me...

Sharp screams catch my attention as I desperately try to see what happened. He couldn't have done anything to them! He was standing in the same spot holding onto me! Did he have a partner or something? A twin? As if to brag, he turns me so I can see behind me. This...wasn't possible. How could...this be?

"It's just a simple magic bind. Or are you just trying to feign your ignorance, owner of the Book of Darkness?"

Magic? Bind? Book of Darkness? What...what was going on? What was he talking about? Magic doesn't exist! But...I couldn't think of any other explanation at the time for the bands of light that held my sisters captive a few inches above the ground.

"Hmmm...perhaps I might just need to 'persuade' you to hand over the Book of Darkness..."

I let out a sharp gasp as I find myself bound in a similar manner. Is this...really magic? Or maybe some black-opts government technology? My thoughts are broken as I see the man walking over to Arael, the youngest sister. He extends his hand and a...a sword of some kind just materializes! What the HELL is going on here?!

"Such a waste of beauty..."

The sound of slitting flesh...of screams of horror...of blood dripping onto the road below. It was all so sudden. I could hear my other sister screaming and...is that me? Yes, I was also screaming. I struggled desperately against the bindings, trying to find some way of getting out. My eyes...I couldn't tear them away as I could only watch Arael's eyes widen in pure horror, her mouth open in a silent scream. And then...her binds giving way, letting her slump lifelessly onto the floor next to my parents.

"Well, guess she didn't have it. Next~"

I don't think I ever stopped screaming. My pleas were left unanswered as he stood in front of Armisael, sword still dripping crimson fluid from its tip. I don't know why I couldn't pull my eyes away or even close them. Maybe it was the shock of the whole situation or maybe it was some of his 'magic.' Whatever it was I could only watch and scream as he ran her through.

Tears? When had I started crying? They wouldn't stop coming...the tears and the screaming. My family was lying before me...dead. He turns to face me, sword poised and ready.

"And then there was one. I believe you have a saying here, 'third time's a charm.'"

Everyone became silent. Maybe I had lost my voice, but my screaming stopped as I stared at my soon to be killer. I had failed my parents. I promised to protect my sisters...to be the big brother and keep them safe. I failed...I failed them...to keep them safe...to protect them. The sword was thrust forward to wards me chest to end it all...

And I screamed.

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Shamsel bolted upright in bed, eyes wide in terror and mouth open in a silent scream. His breathing was raged and quick as his eyes slowly adjusted to the dim light of the room. Trying to calm himself down, he closes his eyes and takes deep breaths. His clothes were soaked in a cold sweat, some still dripping him his forehead...no it wasn't sweat. It was tears.

A quick glance at his clock showed it was 10 minutes before he usually awoke. The images...the sounds...the feelings were all still fresh in his mind. He brings his knees up to his chest and wraps his arms around them as he buries his face in his knees...

...and cries.

If someone had been there, the might have heard him silently mumbling to himself as the tear continued to come:

"I failed to protect you...I'm sorry...I'm sorry...I'm sorry..."

The tears would continue to come until his morning alarm went off, signaling the start of a new day.

Tragic past, huh? So how was he saved?

[arkhangelsk]

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

Ark, I just knew you were going to say something like that. Who has the "right" to call upon the services of a citizen of a nation? The government of that nation or some government that has no juristriction over that territory? You can argue benefits all you want, but such actions show utter disrespect to national boundaries. They've led to wars in the past, as you have correctly stated, and are unacceptable behaviour for nations.

You are still arguing deontologically, but deontology as actually practiced varies with time, as Tk3997 points out even as little as 100 years ago it was basically still Might makes Right.

At least this time, they'd have Utilitarian ethics tilting decisively to one side to base their decisions on, which is a lot more than could be said for most Might makes Right scenarios.

Spoiler for Slightly Off Topic:

When we look back, I believe we'd consider WWII and the Cold War to have been a good thing for humankind. Between the horrors of WWII and the threat of nuclear holocaust in a Bipolar World lock, countries have become a lot less mutually aggressive. By the time the world managed to return to a more unipolar state (with America as its undisputed leader), the moral Zeitgeist had changed.

The United Federation of Planets at least lives in a multipolar world (Klingons, Romulans and Cardassians in AQ alone) that forces it to have some mutual respect for somebody. The TSAB lives in a unipolar world for at least the past 75 years. Why would it write laws or even have moral beliefs accepting other powers as its equal?

Originally Posted by Keroko

Not really, I'm just using the non-drafted Mid-Childans as examples of contradictions to drafting being canon. My real gripes are two things:

1. The drafting of mages on non-administered planets. These planets are called non-administered for a reason, the TSAB has no authority over these planets. Though really, even StrikerS shows contradiction to drafting in general, as Subaru and Ginga had also been given a choice.

You will notice they weren't 18, and thus had already volunteered before the issue can be decided. Besides, I won't be conscripting Subaru unless I was doing Universal Military Service and everyone has to join. She will probably have learnt no magic if not for being saved for Nanoha.

Second, think of the very term "non-administered planet" 未管理世界 for a moment. Can you see the very Hubris of the term? The TSAB does not "have no authority over these planets", at least according to its mind. It just doesn't bother to administer it for its own reasons - on a whim, it can become "administered".

Frankly, though considering their military incompetence, their only way to easily turn Earth into an Administered World would be to threaten destruction with Arcenciel.

2. The canonality of the novel. The novel has shown itself to directly contradict and alter canon. The argument of it being the most 'recent' source became redundant when it was shown that StrikerS still uses the anime as its canon source. Anime, manga and soundtages are intertwined, and so far have not yet conflicted with one another. The novel has directly conflicted with the anime. Am I to believe a single story that is pretty much a 'what if' story compared to three other sources?

Really ... the only real link to the 1st season in StrikerS was a scene of a Starlight Breaker, which fits both versions very well. IIRC no one explicitly tagged the fight to which it belonged. Further, see also all other arguments. You excise parts of clear direct contradiction and retain all other parts. Standard procedure for analysis.

[Aaron008R]

Slow weekends are SLOW... Anyway, I guess I should be thanksful for the chance to do some easier catchingup. BTW...

@arkhangelsk: Welcome to the OC thread. I'll admit it was a bit of a surprise, considering you said that you closed the lid on this thread back then in the Manga thread. But then, it's not really uncommon since we get humbug and Jimmy C as non-OC makers that hang out here frequently.

@Evangelion: I'll read that part about Shamsel tomorrow. I'm in a hurry.

Originally Posted by Reiji Tabibito

Read as quickly as I could, as little as I could, except for the spell list and Device origin in order to avoid any sadness as further comparison to my special someone.

I fail to see how reading about her Barrier Jacket and Fighting style would remind you about your fiance... Unless she dances like Almaria...

Looks good.

Aurion's Profile: Most of it looks familiar. OMG'd @ the reason Almaria hung out w/Aurion... birthdays? Child's logic, I suppose.

Scenario: Sounds like Almaria'd have been a good mom if she'd ever had any kids...

Don't worry. Take your time - I have no plans on going anywhere.

And Aurion + Female = Bind is generally true... though Mel's not been subjected to it. Though it's probably best that it never happens; she'd probably overload all males present w/HELPLESS MOE a la Ninomiya-kun's Mayu.

You make it sound like it happens all the everytime Aurion interacts with females... C'mon! It was like this!

Hayate = Mind Game.
Almaria & Signum = Mock Battle. To win.
Reinforce 1 = She was trying to nuke him to oblivion. Naturally, that should stop her from going on and on.
Satty's female OC's = "Don't disturb me while I use some serious mindf**k on Vincent."

Though I am curious about what do you mean by this helpless MOE bit. I know helplessness can be considered MOE by itself, but is what you mentioned some sort of upgrade? Can you explain?

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare

Everything is NAISU!

*did a double thumbs-up plus a double toes-up (if it was at all possible)*

They are really a perfect match, eh? From personality to duty to attacks, everything is so synchronized between them. Their chemistry blends them nicely.

Again, a masterpiece profile!

Wow... Thanks!

Currently pegged at 12K words. I'm pondering whether to make it shorter by dropping off the mock battle scene between Nanoha and Leona versus Fate and Hayate. >_>

Bluecheese supply running low.

Hayate&Fate vs. Nanoha&Leona mock battle?!?!:eek

WANT!!!

Originally Posted by Saint X

@ Thread...

all this talk about the military must not continue any longer... if you wanted, go to the appropriate thread- not here in the OC.

Nah... The current matter about TSAB policies on recruitment has relevant applications on several works here in the OC thread. I don't really think it's doing any harm.

BTW, I'll read the previews later.

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Null: VERSION II KICKUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!

*everyone watches*

Null: Nuu!!!!!!! This is not the type of character I am!!!!!!

Almaria practices ZTS!?

Why is everyone insisting that Almaria has Zettai Ryouiki after reading the descriptions of her Barrier Jacket?

If anything, it should look very similar to this...

Spoiler for like this:

Just replace the skirt with cyclings. I don't know what gives everyone the impression of ZTS there...

Anyway, good details on the overalls. Though now that I look at it, I've noticed that everyone here while list the level of attack and all for their spells, don't exactly list the spell level on its own standard overall.

Yeah. Though I think I should be slowing down the casting time of some of her spells.

More bluecheese! Looks like you've kept yourself busy, unlike me who's taking periodic breaks from writing.

Yup.

Anyway... what should we call this Aurion? DereTsun?

Why DereTsun?

Maybe~~~

Anyway, it's still early. Right now, I want to be going with foreshadowings first.

Spoiler:

[Schweren Schaden zugefügt. Anfang der Ausgangsanzeige zu maximieren selbst Erholung.] [Severe damage inflicted. Entering standby mode to maximize self-recovery functions.]

His legs too, lost their strength, as with that last burst of power, not to mention the countless cuts near his knees, thighs, and feet, the crimson wounds on his leg were no longer just decorations as his legs dropped to their knees.

Preview II!

Spoiler:

HOLY-
Saga?

Originally Posted by Liingo

Yep! I don't have anyting like that planned, but chances are I'll end up killing off some of my OC's in the future... Only if the time is right though.

Well they could die from food poisoning....
Combine Sanae's bread with Akiko's Jam.....

Oh shit!

*runs*

Wha-?
Nah. They die during the Perfect Void incident.

[Tk3997]

Originally Posted by Kagerou

*After reading 4 to 6 new pages of thread, falls down gasping for breath*

Is this the backlog you speak of? I've never seen a thread move so fast, except on 4chan! My god, am I expected to do this every day?

This is pretty fast for a weekend although it varies day to day depends on if the thread catches a tangent then it can explode or it can just slowly creep along, you learn to skim it for the good stuff after awhile.

*Stares at argument about conscription*

Yeah, I'm not touching that topic with a 10-foot rusty halberd.

Ahh but it's fun! Well suit yourself!

Before I make the mistake of time warping/uber force-fields (which I don't really plan on), just specifically what kinds of spells are in the Nanoverse? I mean, other than the ones used in the anime. Are there some mentioned in the manga/novels/Sound Stages I don't know about? My knowledge of any sorcery comes from D&D, which is a horribly broken system in its own right (Stop time for 4 rounds while I can do almost whatever I please? YES PLZ.)

These are the guidelines I work under, others bend and break these nearly at will sometimes though, I tend to let a bit slide if it’s only in one area though and not to outrageous.

I start out with stuff I think is pretty much impossible:
-Time manipulation of any kind is out IMO it’s just never shown or even hinted at in anything so far as I know.
-Ploymorphing, magic illusions to make you or objects look different are seen, but I don’t think turning people into toads physically would fit AT ALL.
-Resurrection of ANY kind IMO Nanoha magic is too realistic to allow raising the dead.

Now we get into a subject that’s a bit nebulous mental magic:
-We have some sort of “telepathy”, but what exactly that is, is debatable as it basiclly just seems to be used as skull phone, higher level mental magic’s like forceful mind reading or memory manipulation is basiclly unsupported IMO.

Next up we have stuff that’s possible but more limited then in many magic settings:
-Really, really fast super speed, speed boosts are seen, but I don’t think mages dodging bullets or moving like the Flash would fit.
-Healing is again seen, but your average “zap away dozens of bullet and stab wounds” isn’t we still see hospitals and slings and talk of recovery times so healing magic is clearly limited.

On a final note we never really see a spell do much more damage then a few aircraft bombs many do far, far less any spell that gets into the “take out entire city blocks or small towns” range is already pushing into the too much range any mention of “nuclear” in relation to a power level will result in a savage mauling by me at least.



I have allot more, but those are some pretty good rough ones.

Well to be honest that's something that's kinda stuck with me. My dad shoved Star Wars down my throat when I was six, and so the concept of "Rebels vs. Empire" really stuck with me. *headdesk* Even though everyone and their brother will probably say the Empire should have won, they didn't. Being bigger apparently really is a disadvantage in war *shrug*.

Or maybe if you have enough guts and FIGHTING SPIRIT along with the TRUE SPIRIT OF MEN you can achieve anything .

Well the problem was the Emperor was a dolt… “I have a cunning plan! I’ll use myself, the only thing holding the entire state together, as bait in a trap for the majority of my enemies forces!”

“Brilliant sir! Should I call up 500 Star Destroy for the operation and 10,000 stormtroopers?”

“No you fool call JUST enough ships to stalemate the rebels and only a pittance of troops that can be easily overpowered by a small commado team!”

Even despite that he STILL might have won if not for a bunch of freaking teddy bears… Of coruse after the movie we then get the New Republic which has like government character shields. No matter how ragingly incompetent it is nothing can seem to topple it; because the good guys are part of it. Acutally at times it seems like a group of about 30 to 40 people is the only thing holding together a government that spans possibly millions of worlds…

That said the “small underdog group defeats huge empire” trope is done to death in both fantasy and Sci-fi and mostly makes me role my eyes now. Another reason I liked Nanoha’s setting the heroes now pretty much WORK for the huge empire.

Oh, oh, this reminds me. Do any planets in the Nanoverse have anything like planetary shielding? Not necessarily global, as that'd be kind of pointless, but like, shields over key areas? (Major cities/industrial complexes/etc.)

As mentioned the HQ seems to have some sort of shield I wouldn’t have much issue with fairly strong shields over important faculties, but I don’t think any kind of “planetary shield grid” would fit the setting and I think those shields could be bombed down with a focused unopposed barrage by a small fleet.

Actually as soon as I saw the beginning of this part the first thing that hit me was "oh fuck no pilots/fuel. Durrhurr."

It just so how very much can go wrong when trying to do stuff like this.

I still think reverse-engineering to some degree is possible when presented with some advanced technology. In this case, maybe I could further advance their tech and give them some form of space travel within the system? That'd provide the basic understanding, wouldn't it? Or no?

Would work better perhaps or perhaps not, if TSAB space travel is based on Magi-tech the principle could still be totally alien to people using actual somewhat realistic space travel tech. Then again the idea of an actual war between planets that amounts to anything besides "Gain control of orbit and start dropping nukes" would be hard fathom as well... An actual planetary invasion tends to require science fictionally efficient space travel tech or totally fictional systems.

I actually have no real comment except this:

You dare insult the F-14?! DIE DIE DIE! F-14 > *.
(Pretentious conceited F-14 fan -_-)

I actually meant they’d probably only be able to build something that was sort of like an F-14, but inferior to the original even with decades of research.

That said the F-14 had issues it wasn’t a terrible plane, but it was a hanger queen extraordinaire and a total beast on the maintenance crews, and it had problems with engines early on though upgrades mostly sorted that. Still it was awfully complex for what it was meant too do and modern fly by wire aircraft that are actively unstable have defeated much of the point of variable geometry wings, they where a solution to a passing problem and the weight penalties from them defeat allot of the “advantages” even before the above system appeared.

The F-15 was and is IMO a better aircraft simpler, just as effective, and more adaptable while the F-14 was morphed into a so-so bomber with upgrades the F-15E is flat out better at the job, not least because it can carry stuff on its wings. You need only look at foreign sales to see that, even the F-18 sold better then the 14 as did the F-15 and the 16... well that dosen't bear mentioning.


It WAS cool, but as is often the case with such things it was a bit inefficient too.

This is something else that got me thinking of raising their tech levels. And then instead of a global civil war you'd have an interplanetary civil war *evil grin.*

that would require a rather high tech level actually probably centuries ahead of our own, it's your plot just consider that fact and interplanetary war is going to demand huge advacnes in many areas, and might not even be realistically feasible without sci-fi tech.

True... well, how about this: a literate society that's on the verge of global economic collapse because of a sustained global or interplanetary war? Place the system out far enough (I think Lowegear or someone suggested 200 days travel in modern TSAB times). The Ramza incident occurs, slightly more advanced planet pwns the other habitable planet, and so on.

It works to a point, but I just find the entire idea of a much lower tech power acutally being able to attack and disable a TSAB warship before it either flees or simply crushes them pretty unlikely frankly. Them finding a drifting wreck in local space and with massive effort salvaging valuable tech from it I can buy or it making a barely controlled crash landing on a planet after taking heavy damage, but them acutally shooting it down seems like a huge stretch with any kind of near future tech given that the TSAB navy is working quite literally with “magi-tech”.

Mm, well, it was just an idea. If I do incorporate the idea of inter-system fleets, then maybe the incident could occur in a different method. Thoughts?

The problem is any semi-realistic spaceship still wouldn't have the kind of properties we see in TSAB naval vessels, accelration still being the killer the TSAB has artificial gravity and so quite possible inertial dampers and can move from the surface of a planet into orbit easily, that isn't easy at all more so for something so big. Basically any ship that could catch and effectively attack a TSAB vessle would already be well into the sci-fi zone and probably close to them in tech level making the worth of the vessel itself suspect...

In the long run, yes. I was trying to put it in context to what was going on. Nowadays the F-15 is getting up in its years, but it can still off most of what its up against. I mean, we're not planning on going to war with nations that have Typoons, Flankers, and Viper Zero's.

Acutally Flankers are so prolific that small African countries have them besides you ought not to build for the last war; you build for the next one. Admittedly figuring out what the next one will look like can be a bitch… Also modern fighter have such long developments times that you need to plans decades ahead since if you wait until you need them you’ll never get them up in time

To be honest, I've always seen advanced railgun technology occurring before laser weaponry would be viable.

You’ll probably lose that bet, laser weapons are already in testing and advances in solid state models promise even better outputs and smaller size. In fact one nearly made it to production, THEL (Tactical High Energy Laser) shot down mortars and artillery rockets in live fire testing, that’s arguably already weapons grade. Popular science had a nice article about it in one of their issues last year.

Maybe the captain made an error in judgment and ended up within sensor range? Or the computer's calculations were off slightly, not accounting for probability or some such (example: if sensor systems orbit the planet, they maybe the computer did not anticipate a subtle gravitational shift due to the planet's rotation etc etc. Like the space version of the Butterfly Effect. From what I understand, this occurs all the time.

He'd have to pop out damn near on top of them for them to attack him and the first thing he's going to do when he see he's so close is start backing off, it's rather more likely he'll be able to issue that command before anyone on the ground sees, identifies (or fails too) the contact, deliberates on what to do, and decides to fire on it. Given the speed a TSAB ship probably has it could be well outside the range of any engagement by then and if his vector was out bound to start with even IF some weapon caught up and hit him he'd continue on that course (this being space) not somehow fall out of the sky into the planet.

This makes me wish that we had a technical manual on TSAB ships or something.

It has it’s ups and downs on the one hand it gives us authors more freedom, on the other hand it gives us authors more freedom… A good author can use that ambiguity to bring in interesting concepts and explore them in a rational interesting way; a hack can use a lack of set limits to run roughshod over common sense, logic, and reason in a wank riddled piece of crap with precious little solid evidence to be used to rein them in.

That’s the problem with freedom in general really it frees stupid people to be stupid.

...oh wow. I forgot about things like Impact Explosions. Jesus wtf is wrong with me. *headdesk* My apologies. Maybe this space-angle would be more viable?

Yeah that’s a pretty common issue in allot of sci-fi huge ass star ships crashing down or into stuff often just seem to dig a trench and not much else when they land…

Macross is good one to look at to see it done right when the SDF-1 crashes its HUGE the shockwave from its passing levels buildings (which it would) and the blast when it impacts is visible from most of the hemisphere. Of coruse it goes with a wildly unlikely scenario of it impacting into the shallow water around some tiny little inland in the pacific this thus side stepping the global dust cloud that ought to have happened(while making it easy to recover). I can’t recall on tsunamis, but I think they did happen. Anyway it was clearly a mega disaster of the first order which any large scale space craft crashing uncontrolled onto a planet would be.

The average sci-fi warship is effectively the size of a country buster asteroid some of the bigger ones are almost continent busters. Acutally ships might well be MORE dangerous then an asteroid of the same size. Most asteroids are now thought to be pretty much gravel piles loosely held together by gravity more like a dirt clod then a stone, but a ship would likely be made almost totally out of heavy solid metals AND probably armored externally against thermal energy (as most ray guns would use heating to do their damage). This means more of it is likely to make it to the ground, add in a radioactive or good forbid unstable anti-matter (or technobabble) power source and you’ve got the makings of one hell of disaster on the ground below a major orbital battle.

Gomen, gomen, in a lot of those cases you were right, and a little research would have gone a long way.

Eh nothing that bad you said some stuff I said it was wrong because of X and we move on to fixing it. Like I said I have no issue with people that say something wrong, but seem willing to try and correct it. I actually tolerate it more here as allot of is ambiguous and large amounts of info can't be easily tracked down so it often is faster to just ask.

Then cut the number by 2/3 or 3/4? What would be considered a high number but not a hax number?

I personally think more then 15 to 20% would be pushing it.

The thing is that if the Jewel Seed incident was soooo important (Lost Logia, Precia, Project Fate, etc. etc.), I think they could have mobilized two ships rather than one.

Part of me just thinks it was stuff the writers didn't think about at the time.

Well one possibility is simply that it didn't seem that important at first or that they didn't even know about it for awhile. They seem to have been drawn in to investigate after it was underway and it escalated quickly and they just couldn't get more ships to the scene before it was concluded.

I agree. In any event, it was stuff like this that makes me think the TSAB can be really crappy about sending what where to do whatever. Some of this was Graham, but I think some of it was shitty planning.

More force would have helped, but it seems acutally fairly likely they'd have won fairly quickly if he hadn't interfered. You also can't just send EVERYTHING at any problem ideally you want enough to win by a comfortable margin, but no more. Before he interfered they seemed to have that force ratio the Knights appeared to be pretty much on the ropes in the very first engagement for instance.

Or maybe it was overconfidence that Chrono/Fate/Nanoha could do it.

Acutally somewhat justified given their freakish power level, and Yunno and Arf aren't any kind of slouches either I say again if Graham dosen't butt in it's entirely possibly they beat the Knights in Ep.5 and the entire thing is over.

But then, I didn't think Nanoha was officially part of the TSAB yet? Granted, she had helped them in the past, but IMO an organization would be foolish to immediately trust someone that powerful, on an unadministered world, as to let them go off and do whatever. If Fate could be pretty much brainwashed by Precia (granted, it had probably been going on since Fate's creation) that easy at that early of and age, then safe to say the same could have been done to Nanoha.

That wasn’t really brain washing it was misplaced and undeserved loyalty. Children will do some pretty terrible things to try and please their parents, I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve heard of parents using their children to help them steal stuff for instance. She was a terrible parent, but she was still Fate’s “mother” and that’s an extremely powerful psychological bond that even truly stunning levels abuse can have difficultly breaking. (I’ve heard of stuff that makes what she did seem positively ‘meh’, emersion into bathtubs or sinks full of scolding hot water is a particularly sickening one, ever seen a boiled ham?)

Also the entire incident was basiclly kicked off with them brutally assaulting her; she probably would have helped if for no other reason then good old fashion pay back. In fact keeping her away would probably have been harder!

So it's possible, however, very unlikely, that Belka was a planet? Got it.

Very, very unlikely IMO.

This isn't a bad thing. Like I said, I could be a whiny bitch about it, but then, nothing would get done.

That's the right way to look at it IMO.

lol this is actually a good reimage of my old idea.

But it got me to thinking about something else too. What if this star system was one subjugated by the TSAB? As with all galactic (or part galactic) governments, I'm sure no one went peacefully. Maybe this system just would not stop harrassing the TSAB so they finally went "Oh fuck it" and pwnd the shit out of them. This would lead to further resentment to the TSAB, but it'd also give me a more viable reason for the Order of Freelance Mage's existence: Erusian mages loyal to the TSAB, not to their homeworld.

Either works I made a planet that has some of those elements though it joined largely by choice it still has some subtle dissidence going on.

...This is kinda fun.
I'm making something for characters to be based off of. I haven't even gotten to the real characters yet! I could enjoy this

Well that is the point of all this, I do find just debating and coming up with background and theories one of the more enjoyable aspect of the entire process myself.

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

And that's where the contrast is. Almaria is still comfortable around Busters, but she doesn't do well in melee.

Some comparison, some contrast, even better.

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Null: VERSION II KICKUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!

*everyone watches*

Null: Nuu!!!!!!! This is not the type of character I am!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Preview!

Spoiler:

[Schweren Schaden zugefügt. Anfang der Ausgangsanzeige zu maximieren selbst Erholung.] [Severe damage inflicted. Entering standby mode to maximize self-recovery functions.]

His legs too, lost their strength, as with that last burst of power, not to mention the countless cuts near his knees, thighs, and feet, the crimson wounds on his leg were no longer just decorations as his legs dropped to their knees.

Preview II!

Spoiler:

He looks evil there in the sky.

[arkhangelsk]

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

Slow weekends are SLOW... Anyway, I guess I should be thanksful for the chance to do some easier catchingup. BTW...

@arkhangelsk: Welcome to the OC thread. I'll admit it was a bit of a surprise, considering you said that you closed the lid on this thread back then in the Manga thread. But then, it's not really uncommon since we get humbug and Jimmy C as non-OC makers that hang out here frequently.

I have basically closed my lid, but every so often I do click on "Last Page" and poke a periscope in. If Keroko's post wasn't #14841, and thus at the very top of a page, it is very likely I'd just have left without noticing the debate.

[Chaos2Frozen]

KAOS SUPA SUNDAY SLAMMER!!!


(Yes, it's Sunday here...)

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~

Originally Posted by FieryAeon

Mai: Even though the potion no longer works.......I was aware all along........
Smith: Err Mai? Its not like you to use so many words in one sentence...What are you trying to sa-? *pinned down by Mai*
Mai (uncharacteristically sexy voice): My....deepest...desires....
Mai: Itadakimasu...
Smith: I'm in paradise~~~

The potion wore out but she's still OOC! *runs like the wind*

"Got a black magic woman...
Got a black magic woman...
Ive got a black magic woman,
Got me so blind I cant see.
That shes a black magic woman,
Shes trying to make a devil out of me~"

Originally Posted by FieryAeon

[LoweGear]Roricon roricon Roricon roricon Roricon roricon Roricon roricon Roricon roricon Roricon roricon Roricon roricon Roricon roricon Roricon roricon Roricon roricon Roricon roricon Roricon roricon Roricon roricon[/LoweGear]

FlameSparkZ isn't a roricon !>_<!


He just likes to make use of them!!

...

I mean! He just likes their company!!!

...

I MEAN! He just PREFERS them over grown women!!!!

...

I MEAN! H-HE... !!!!!

Originally Posted by FieryAeon

Then the Gemini sisters must be in!!!

Fill up your application forms then

With their particulars and a few photos

Originally Posted by FieryAeon

Beware Keroko-tan.

She doesn't need to know

Originally Posted by FieryAeon

Nah you didn't need to "accumulate energy" for such a comeback anyway.

I.S First (Now with a new name!)... Unleashed Desires.

Originally Posted by FieryAeon

You do? I meant goody two shoe fluffy and romantic, etc etc, kind of good.

Koji: "Maren... Zutto, Soba ni-te kurasai..."


(Now when the hell did I start learning all this...?)

Originally Posted by FieryAeon

I don't care, I wanna stay sane. >.<'

Then you're on the wrong side of cyber-space my friend

Originally Posted by haiz123321

C2F'S next Harem list, targetting them in order from top to bottom

OI OI! That's not it! It's the new list for the Blood Market!

But that doesn't matter! The point IS-!!!


... It's not from top to bottom.

Originally Posted by Keroko

Now when did I say that?

That's the proverbial green-light to go wild if I've ever seen one

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

BTW, that part about the real Erio getting revived as Nero idea is pretty cool.

One of my better stroke of genius...

And rather than revive... A better use is re-used

Originally Posted by Reiji Tabibito

Well, I have Mel...

<pauses> Tsundere? No. Dojikko? Kinda, but not really? MILF? Definitely not. Yamato Nadeshiko? Not even Earthling...

She looks great in a swimsuit...

Oh-Hooo~ ?


... On second thoughts nevermind <.< Not my type... >.>

Originally Posted by Reiji Tabibito

Sure.

Starfire's probably my favorite - her version of English is just too funny.

Originally Posted by Reiji Tabibito

Mel Yoshitaka.

She's probably the best looking, and definitely the most racked out of the current list.

Heh, sure sure... Why not? if you say so...

01. Keroko (Keroko >.>)
02. Maren (FSZ)
03. Mai (LoweGear)
04. Mel (Reiji)
05. Sophia (Kha... At my digression )
06. ???
07. ???
08. ???
09. ???
10. Spica (C2F)

I can extend to 12 if there's not enough space...

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare

Uh, "it"?

I have the strangest feeling when I said that ...

Yes... Soon, you'll feel nothing at all...

Then, you would join our ranks brother...

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare

I need time to ponder!

[Alter-ego]But, if you really want to, just do it.[/Alter-ego]

Or do you have no faith in her

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare

Oi, oi, I'm not a serial murderer.

For now, but soon you will join our ranks and-

Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare

Uh, underwater radar? Isn't it ... sonar?

*runs from imminent torpedo strike*

Silence you fool!

Just nod your head and pretend you understand! Or else The Godfather would kill you, your family...!

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Really? Judging from Jeno's cold monologues speaking of how he was before he met Spica, I must've thought he was already one then...

Whatever.

Jeno was just one bored and lost kid with not a care in the world, and nothing on his mind but to become stronger for no reasons other than because

P.S - No brooding

Originally Posted by Nightengale

For something that isn't a moe competition, the listed ones are more so moe than OTHER legit participants.

G-Guzenda >.>


(I think that's how it's spelled)

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Erio's, Lowe's, USB's, Kha's, Reiji's, mine...

Obviously you haven't been doing your homework. :/

I come here because I don't want to do my homework

In fact, I haven't done any homework for 3 years... Not that I don't have any, I just... >.>


... Pretend this never happened.

Originally Posted by Tormenk

Question at Chaos:

Might be wrong here but the Stain program is merely a offshoot of Sipher with him being the master program right? Would Sipher have the ability to override those with the Stain inside them at any time?

Sipher has control to all Stain programs, that's how he could sent mini-Sipher to guide the Destroyer-Canidates through their Initation...

HOWEVER, this is only because the Stain program for that is a newborn and couldn't do anything... During this time, mini-Sipher would be with it and it's host every step of the way, teaching them the ropes.

As it evolves, Sipher would have less control over the program. Once it becomes Sentient, Sipher could only observe it, but cannot affect it's decision directly in anyway...

Unless he REALLY wants/needs to... As in REALLY REALLY... As in "Even-if-it-kills-me" kind of really... As in "If-it's-the-last-thing-I'll-ever-do" kind of really...



(Yup, I'm making this up as I go along Sue me >.>)

Originally Posted by Tormenk

*wakes up*

Wuzzt? Did cha say somethunk?

*watches fly buzz past*

*swats one*

*falls asleep*

It's okay, I don't exist...



P.S - I want to do something a LITTLE special today...


...But dinner first.