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EvilMink · 2007-05-20, 06:17

Today's edition of Daily Yomiuri brings news about people arrested in Japan for sharing manga via Winny:

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KYOTO--Three persons, including a minor, have been arrested on suspicion of posting cartoons from comics onto the Internet via the Winny file-sharing software, before the comics had been officially released, police said.
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According to the police, on several occasions between Jan. 31 and April 5, the three allegedly scanned onto a computer 12 cartoons drawn by six cartoonists printed in comic magazines, including Weekly Shonen Sunday, published by Shogakukan Inc., and Weekly Shonen Jump, published by Shueisha Inc.

Full text is available from Yomiuri website - click here.

Lawfer · 2007-05-20, 06:23

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Originally Posted by EvilMink

Today's edition of Daily Yomiuri brings news about people arrested in Japan for sharing manga via Winny:

Full text is available from Yomiuri website - click here.

Why is it always the good guys who gets arrested and yet the bad guys are still out there?

TrueAlchemist · 2007-05-20, 07:28

omg, cannot believe they lock people for posting few pics.
this might slow down the scanning world in Japan.

KNETTER2000 · 2007-05-20, 07:37

I don't read anywhere they are being jailed.. I just read they are arrested..
am I missing something here?

felix · 2007-05-20, 07:37

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Winny file-sharing software, before the comics had been officially released, police said.

As in how officially realease?.. they stole them from the publishers and posted them on the net, before they were on the market?
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What's Winny by the way?

crystar · 2007-05-20, 07:51

Winny is a Japanese peer to peer file sharing program.

Jailed... @.@... I guess this is a first to see the laws actually enforced? (For manga anyway)

SimplyEd · 2007-05-20, 08:19

Folks, there's no reason to get all that agitated.
There are several terabytes worth of manga scans on winny (among several more terabytes worth of other media) for years now. It's not like law enforcers actually learned about that fact a few days ago.
The crucial part of that incident is that they caught several people who scanned stuff several days before they even hit the shelves AND then bragged about it on 2channel.
If you ask me, those guys basically asked to be arrested. Apparently it looks like they see pre-release scans as a greater sales threat than "regular" post-release scans.
I don't think this will any effect to Japans scanning world at all. Maybe they'll cut down on pre-release stuff abit, but that's all then.

~~mangatron~~ · 2007-05-20, 08:38

Yes, uploading before pre-release does warrant an arrest in my book. I mean not even giving the publisher time to release it first is an ultimate doom to sales.

TrueAlchemist · 2007-05-20, 22:11

Well, corporations cannot just sit and watch when there are people sharing mangas before release. it will hurt their revenue. My guess is that those people get the manga at the printing shop because people at the publishing companies are not stupid enough tot release them.

But, this might slow down some of scan work. main purpose of legal action is to make an example to scare scanners.

Aoie_Emesai · 2007-05-20, 22:53

It's just like when Axel .G broke the Source Code for Half-Life 2, and users got it before it was ever released which killed some of the revenue. Or I do believe it was so. ^_^

~~mangatron~~ · 2007-05-21, 00:27

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Originally Posted by Aoie_Emesai

It's just like when Axel .G broke the Source Code for Half-Life 2, and users got it before it was ever released which killed some of the revenue. Or I do believe it was so. ^_^

I think it was that 4,000 wide ban incident lol... or was it 2,000...

-KarumA- · 2007-05-21, 03:36

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Originally Posted by SimplyEd

Folks, there's no reason to get all that agitated.
There are several terabytes worth of manga scans on winny (among several more terabytes worth of other media) for years now. It's not like law enforcers actually learned about that fact a few days ago.
The crucial part of that incident is that they caught several people who scanned stuff several days before they even hit the shelves AND then bragged about it on 2channel.
If you ask me, those guys basically asked to be arrested. Apparently it looks like they see pre-release scans as a greater sales threat than "regular" post-release scans.
I don't think this will any effect to Japans scanning world at all. Maybe they'll cut down on pre-release stuff abit, but that's all then.

i agree they surely asked to be caught, this shows that patience is fortune ^^

Crovax · 2007-05-21, 03:49

Scanning and sharing copyrighted material is technically wrong regardless of the situation. But it's obviously a lot worse when it is done before official release.

Much as I feel for them, having such a messed up legal system look at what happened to Winny's creator, in this case I have to say they had it coming.

Spoiler for off-topic:

P.S. I believe you meant to say patience is virtue. =p

-KarumA- · 2007-05-21, 04:17

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Originally Posted by Crovax

P.S. I believe you meant to say patience is virtue. =p

aah yes that one, i forgot the last word and didnt know how to spell it :P i will never forget again!

Mr. Johnny 5 · 2007-05-25, 12:23

Darn! Who is gonna take their place? The police is always catching the wrong people. There are lots of bad guys out there and they catch the people who are doing the WORLD a favor

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2007-05-21, 03:49	Link #13
Crovax A2000A Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Netherlands Age: 38	Scanning and sharing copyrighted material is technically wrong regardless of the situation. But it's obviously a lot worse when it is done before official release. Much as I feel for them, having such a messed up legal system look at what happened to Winny's creator, in this case I have to say they had it coming. Spoiler for off-topic: I'm sure you have heard of that guy convicted of rape in spite of having a perfectly good alibi, based on a later withdrawn testimony by the suspect, after being interrogated for ages and told all sorts of lies by the police. Apparently judges in Japan make promotion based on the speed with which they find ppl guilty. Doesn't look like there'll be any meaningful disciplinary action for the police officers involved either. P.S. I believe you meant to say patience is virtue. =p

2007-05-25, 12:23	Link #15
Mr. Johnny 5 Konoha's ANBU Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 38	Darn! Who is gonna take their place? The police is always catching the wrong people. There are lots of bad guys out there and they catch the people who are doing the WORLD a favor ... __________________

2007-05-20, 07:28	Link #3
TrueAlchemist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006	omg, cannot believe they lock people for posting few pics. this might slow down the scanning world in Japan.

2007-05-20, 07:51	Link #6
crystar yawns Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Asia	Winny is a Japanese peer to peer file sharing program. Jailed... @.@... I guess this is a first to see the laws actually enforced? (For manga anyway)

2007-05-20, 08:19	Link #7
SimplyEd Claytard Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: U.M.N. Age: 45	Folks, there's no reason to get all that agitated. There are several terabytes worth of manga scans on winny (among several more terabytes worth of other media) for years now. It's not like law enforcers actually learned about that fact a few days ago. The crucial part of that incident is that they caught several people who scanned stuff several days before they even hit the shelves AND then bragged about it on 2channel. If you ask me, those guys basically asked to be arrested. Apparently it looks like they see pre-release scans as a greater sales threat than "regular" post-release scans. I don't think this will any effect to Japans scanning world at all. Maybe they'll cut down on pre-release stuff abit, but that's all then.

2007-05-20, 08:38	Link #8
~~mangatron~~ worshipping the pantyhose Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Manila, Philippines	Yes, uploading before pre-release does warrant an arrest in my book. I mean not even giving the publisher time to release it first is an ultimate doom to sales.

2007-05-20, 22:11	Link #9
TrueAlchemist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006	Well, corporations cannot just sit and watch when there are people sharing mangas before release. it will hurt their revenue. My guess is that those people get the manga at the printing shop because people at the publishing companies are not stupid enough tot release them. But, this might slow down some of scan work. main purpose of legal action is to make an example to scare scanners.