Claymore Chapter 108

[Solace]

Welcome to the monthly discussion thread for Claymore, Chapter 108.

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[yononaka]

I guess this should actually go here instead...

Originally Posted by Ryus

This popped up last night on Biadu... It's Japanese on a Chinese site and on a thread listed as ch 108. So maybe it's a spoiler...

Spoiler for Possible 108 spoiler... I couldn't make heads or tails of it... sorry. Needs someone to translate it or at least tell us if it is a spoiler or not.:

米姐原地满血复活，多少人认为她挂了的，可以去啃马桶了
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108バレ
最新号読んだ！ﾐﾘｱ大好きなおまいら喜べ

ﾀﾊﾞｻ｢队长！｣
ベッドから跳ね起きるﾀﾊﾞｻ、侧にいたｶﾞﾗﾃｱと颜を见合わせる
ﾀﾊﾞｻ｢た、队长の…ﾐﾘｱ队长の妖気が…｣

ｶﾞﾗﾃｱ｢お前も感じたか。ﾐﾘｱの妖気の急激な上升と激しい动揺…
(だが今は仅かにに感じられる程度という事の方が気になるな)｣


ｶﾞﾗもﾀﾊﾞｻも助けには行ってないがﾐﾘｱ生存ふらぐタップリｗ
ちなみにﾐﾘｱ自体は登场なし

あとディートがプリとﾀｲﾏﾝ状态で死にそう

Yes, it's a (EDIT: fake) spoiler for sure.

Spoiler for Translation, hopefully I got the mixed-in Chinese characters right...:

I've read the latest issue! Those of you who love Miria, rejoice

Tabitha: "Captain!"
Tabitha leaps up from bed and exchanges looks with nearby Galatea
Tabitha: "Ca, Captain's... Captain Miria's youki..."

Galatea: "I see you felt it too. The sudden rise and intense stirring of Miria's youki. (But I'm more concerned about it being only barely detectable now.)"

While Gala and Tabitha don't head out to help Miria, that's a good enough survival flag for her
BTW Miria herself doesn't appear

Later Diet is near death after facing Pris.

Hopefully someone can confirm my interpretation of the non-Japanese characters that the Chinese site put in there...

[FormerAbyssalone]

Spoiler for Hmm..:

Hmm, seems like a legit spoiler, but I don't see how it can go 2 Clare/Priss... unless we got our sence of time wrong.

Thanks for the translation BTW @Yononaka.

[An4rchy99]

Great work yononaka! You at least made it sound more sensible

Spoiler for spoiler talk:

Is it me or is Miria's supposed death going be left in a typical cliff hanger? Implying she is dead but never shown like many other characters? The talk of Dee is a good sign that we might get a couple of pages to switch back to Ctd scene near the end! I am glad if things work out that way!

If the scene shows Taby and Gala, I sure hope Miata and Clairce would get some panel time too!

[Shiek927]

Spoiler for spoiler:

I guess Yagi caved in after all . I can only wonder just how much he was pushed to make things this way, or perhaps, if this was all part of his plans from the beginning.

[MalakTawus]

It's obvious that whatever happens Yagi had all planned from the beginning,it's not that he can change the whole direction of the story only to please Miria's fans,and surely not in one month.
Btw i don't think that we have to use the spoiler tag,this is ch.108 thread already,who comes here should be prepared to read spoilers......

[Ryus]

Originally Posted by FormerAbyssalone

Hmm, seems like a legit spoiler, but I don't see how it can go 2 Clare/Priss... unless we got our sence of time wrong.

Thanks for the translation BTW @Yononaka.

Yes! Thank you Yononaka

Hmm... either Miria took a long time traveling to org hq or Yagi does a time jump back
events beyond the Miria stuff after Galatea and Tabitha sense Miria. I think if the spoiler is true it is the later since after all there was no mention of Galatea or Tabitha sensing the Destroyer, something I've personally been waiting for for almost 15 chapter now.

Plus if The Destroyer had awakened at that point in time it might have been enough to jam anyones ability to sense Miria since it seems to be a tiny amount of yoki she is emitting now.

Next off if this timeline is correct my speculation that the org may keep Miria alive to infect her with a hellcat rod is likely wrong, since how could they intent to do this before she even existed? That said there is no reason why they wouldn't keep her alive for whatever reason and choose to infect her later with a hellcat rod. However this also doesn't mean they don't plan on keeping her alive for other reasons and/or she won't go mad and awaken like many others predicted later (in Miria's point of view moments later, from the readers point of view... whenever Yagi would get back to that part of the story).

Who knows about the dee vs priscilla though Maybe Priscilla won and is beating up Clare's friend in front of her, maybe Dee went to in to pay back the debt for her other squadmate, or maybe the poster meant Clare...

[An4rchy99]

I also agree that, if we take into account the timeline difference, it is very unlikely that Miria would be kept alive without knowing the reasons what she is kept alive for.

My speculation is somewhere around the fight when Miria unleashes her yoki, it was sensed by Gala and Taby, and they comprehend on that. I am hoping there is nothing more to this and finally Yagi gives Miria the deserving send off we all was expecting. I would stick to the fact that Yagi pointed the difference in the dates when he started the Miria fight chapters.

As Ryus said, it is impossible for Gala to miss the destroyer yoki rising and instead pickup on Miria's, therefore its a good bet to assume that none of that has happened yet.

I think I would write off the Dee v Prissy as a mere speculation or fake in the spoiler.

[haegar]

well it doesn't have to be Dietrich vs. Prissy as such... Dietirch could very well be near death just from being too close to the skirmish between the heavy hitters

I sure hope not though ... if Yagi goes on to kill of another of my favorites I shall proceed to sue him for the immense distress he has caused me XD

[Korinov]

Spoiler for spoilah:

Galatea: "I see you felt it too. The sudden rise and intense stirring of Miria's youki. (But I'm more concerned about it being only barely detectable now.)"

This would mean Miria is still alive, wouldn't it? Tsk. At least I hope Yagi can imagine a very good reason for the MiBs to keep her alive.

OT bonus track.

[MalakTawus]

Imo it's not belivable that Prissy attacks Diet,why would she bother?
The only way i can see Prissy hurt Diet on purpose is if Diet herself decides to attack Prissy,but who would be this stupid to attack someone as powerful as her?.........besides Claire,lol.....
Imo if diet was hurt it happened only 'cause she was too close to the battle like heagar said........but to be honest imo it's a fake spoiler.

[Shiek927]

It could be that Miria is dead; didn't Galatea say before, that when Isley died, she felt a sudden surge of energy before it died away completely?

Miria seemed to give in to her death...so far, I don't understand how that can lead to her using youki and/or awakening.

[FormerAbyssalone]

Originally Posted by MalakTawus

Imo it's not belivable that Prissy attacks Diet,why would she bother?
The only way i can see Prissy hurt Diet on purpose is if Diet herself decides to attack Prissy,but who would be this stupid to attack someone as powerful as her?.........besides Claire,lol.....
Imo if diet was hurt it happened only 'cause she was too close to the battle like heagar said........but to be honest imo it's a fake spoiler.

I don't know, I'm on the fence for this one. I can't really tell if the spoiler is fake or not. But who knows there could be more spoiler 2 come out as we get closer 2 new chap!

Now I don't see Dee attacking Priss, you would have 2 be out of ur mind 2 do sumthin that crazy!

[Shiek927]

You'd have to explain first why that fight would even happen considering, last we checked, she was in the middle of a Claire/Raciella cyclone

[Ryuken]

Originally Posted by Korinov

Spoiler for spoilah:

Galatea: "I see you felt it too. The sudden rise and intense stirring of Miria's youki. (But I'm more concerned about it being only barely detectable now.)"

This would mean Miria is still alive, wouldn't it? Tsk. At least I hope Yagi can imagine a very good reason for the MiBs to keep her alive.

OT bonus track.

If both of them felt it, then it would most probably mean that she is not dead. Now I don't know about the being barely alive thing or anything else for that matter. To me, these statements from the best two sensors around is enough. So, I'm happy, a little, for the moment anyway.

[Mizuno]

So Miria is still alive but now Dietrich is meeting her doom? Way to spoil my brief moment of happiness.

[MalakTawus]

IF the spoiler is true if even Tab is able to feel Miria's yoki from Rabona there is a good chance that Miria is awakening (or really close).....or maybe they feel her yoki-release (against the twins Miria uses yoki,even if it didn't seem a lot it was still the release of an incredible powerful warrior......) and than it suddenly disappears........

The curious part is that the spoiler says that Gala and Tab feel Miria's yoki,but it says nothing about the twins yoki,so (unless that part was forgotten in the spoiler) it makes sense to think that Miria is releasing a yoki considerably stronger than the twins,and this again leads to an awakening hypothesis.

[revan5]

You know, if Miria isn't dead, this does bring back some other nightmare scenarios. The worst I can think of is what I call the "Hallucination Fight". Imagine you're the Organization. A very powerful warrior has just fallen under the influence of your No. 10's yoki manipulations. You know there are other rebels out there, so what do you do?

If you're smart you'll put Miria back together (putting her left hand back on for instance) and have her live in a la-la land where Hilda is alive and the Organization doesn't exist. Then when confronted by the Ghosts, you have the hallucinating Miria turned on her old allies and have her attempt to kill them. You could make Raftela portray them as Organization warriors, Ophelia, and so on. This is in a sense could be even more tragic.

Just imagine if Miria winds up killing a comrade while under hallucination. Or imagine trying to fight someone as powerful as Miria while attempting not to kill her. As we've seen, knocking out powerful warriors is really hard. Would Claire, even post-transformation, have the strength to pull it off? If you add in Raki fighting the Ghosts, things get even hairier.

Plus, what if Raftela can produce this yoki manipulation in multiple opponents? The unaffected ghosts would wind up fighting each other if it's successful, or at the very least will see comrades cut down superfluously. I hate to guess this, but the end fights in Claymore could be Raki/Miria vs. Claire. I'm not sure either side, once not under hallucination, could live on knowing they'd been "victorious".

[Ryuken]

Originally Posted by MalakTawus

The curious part is that the spoiler says that Gala and Tab feel Miria's yoki,but it says nothing about the twins yoki,so (unless that part was forgotten in the spoiler) it makes sense to think that Miria is releasing a yoki considerably stronger than the twins,and this again leads to an awakening hypothesis.

That's a good point @Malak, to dwarf the combine yoki of the twins would require something even huge, if that is Miria, then I'm really going to love this upcoming chapter.

[An4rchy99]

Looking at the way Raftela uses her ability, it seems she has to use about 30% to achieve her mind trick. I cannot fathom she could do this for so long, so Revan5 I have to disagree with you on that notion.

But keeping her alive for leverage seems vary plausible and the best course of action the org could take for the time being. Maybe cutting off all limbs?

However if there is actual scenes for Miria (instead of Gala and Taby sensing about it), this raises interesting issues. Is she going to awaken? I sure wish that something dramatic happens to conclude the Miria's ending instead of leaving her death implied and unseen.

I still think the Dee and Prissy bit in the spoiler is fake or the writers own speculation, as we wont know these things at this stage. I would stick to the time-line clash speculation. Even if Dee bit is not a fake I think it could be a simple misinformation, Dee getting injured while on that scene and is near death... thats the closest translation I could figure from it so far.