2008-10-02, 23:04 | Link #3341 | |
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I really liked the format of this debate. It fostered civility, which was refreshing to see. |
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2008-10-02, 23:09 | Link #3342 |
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So civility is somehow compromised buy asking substantive follow-ups that don't let any candidate get away with totally evasive question answering? Sheeeesh, this country deserves what we get...
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2008-10-02, 23:18 | Link #3343 | |
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*thinks of Wylie Coyote and Road Runner*switch to situation now. |
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2008-10-02, 23:18 | Link #3344 |
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What can you do about it? If they change the format, it will create more discussions, and the public don't enjoy those discussions. However, without those discussions, they cannot get the real picture, and cannot identify the truth. Still they prefer superficial information over a substantial one, since they do and want to trust the candidate's promises and words. Fortunately, the politics hasn't entered that path substantially yet, so they can do that to some extent.
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2008-10-02, 23:20 | Link #3345 | |
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uh she has a 97 % approval rating in her state? Well she does have an advantage! I'll give you that with where she is, but still nobody in washington has seen those type of numbers in how many years? if ever? Last edited by mg1942; 2008-10-02 at 23:32. |
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2008-10-02, 23:23 | Link #3346 | |
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Uh, no she doesn't...Her approval after the Katie Couric interviews dipped under 80%, she's now behind atleast 2 governors...
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2008-10-02, 23:25 | Link #3347 | |
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2008-10-02, 23:28 | Link #3349 |
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Meh, everyplace is different. Working the Alaskan populace for an approval rating for anything above 60% is different then working say New York or even Massachusets.
Plus I believe Anchorage Daily News said that in less urban more sparsley populated regions, you have a better chance of having a higher approval rating due to more direct "connection" to the voters. "Connection" more than likely means being directly seen by the voters regularly outside (non tv) at the very least, but you can interpret that anyways you wish. |
2008-10-02, 23:37 | Link #3351 |
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You're missing the pont, people who would support her in a snowstorm took a second look after her incredible blunders following the Katie Couric interviews...It's almost like they were saying "Woah, we didn't know she was that ________" If your running at 80% before you get the Vice-Pres gig shouldn't you be polling atleast even if not higher in a state with an extremely small population that supported you so vigorously before McCain picked you? I honestly think many were embarrassed with her knowledge in those interviews...
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2008-10-02, 23:46 | Link #3352 |
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Still, that is the only thing most will get. And, they have to make their decisions mainly based on that (and base on the impression they will get). And, I believe, many will do just like that. Of course, here, I am ignoring the group that will vote for one candidate regardless of the credibility-trust-capability kind of backing behind them (+/-racism, +/-sexism, +/-religion, +/- partisanship).
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2008-10-02, 23:49 | Link #3353 |
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Well... I thought the evening was a general fail on the part of Palin, Biden, and Ifil.
Ifil: No followup questions and no "hey wait a minute you didn't answer my question." Both candidates got away with going straight to their "flashcard answers" .... Palin: Everytime she claimed McCain meant something different about "fundamentals of the economy" than what the phrase actually means -- I wanted to slap her. Otherwise, 90% of her talk was what I expected her to do: platitudes, mom, apple pie, and a bit of populism (get the greedy lenders.... um, banking scandals are not exactly off the rap sheet for Republicans?). Some points for complete sentences for a change. Biden: Missed many opportunities he was so busy going for his own "flashcard answers". Far too sedate .... Palin spent more of the debate sounding passionate even when she wasn't actually saying anything..
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2008-10-02, 23:50 | Link #3354 | |
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Tonight Palin survived. Her credibility is now back to levels of post GOP convention (late August/early September). |
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2008-10-02, 23:54 | Link #3355 | |
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Biden: He just forgot to kill her, rather then make her limp. |
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2008-10-02, 23:57 | Link #3356 | |
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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1003856855 Quite frankly, I'm more impressed by governors will poll numbers in the 60s of high population states than 80s in a low population state. |
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2008-10-02, 23:58 | Link #3357 | |
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I agree that she survived and salvaged some of her national political career. I don't think her credibility is back the GOP convention levels though. It'll take a few years for that to happen. I wouldn't be shocked if she plays a big role in 2012 elections, assuming Obama wins this year. |
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2008-10-03, 00:00 | Link #3358 | |
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2008-10-03, 00:03 | Link #3359 |
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Ok, a comment from me that isn't too snarky. ^^
Biden: Not bad. He kept himself in check....maybe even too much. But very solid. Palin: Holy crap the sentences made sense! Guess all that "coaching" paid off. Unfortunately she harped on every possible tactic you could think of. Vexx lined up the list nicely. Ifil: Sigh. Politics hurt this. I couldn't really call this a debate so much as a hour and a half interview. On the other hand, vice presidents are usually an afterthought. They don't do much that is immediately apparent to the public (even so, people *should* care). But the overall performances in this debate won't be enough to significantly change the course of this election, in my opinion.
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2008-10-03, 00:07 | Link #3360 | |
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