Code Geass - Spoilers & Speculation (ver 2 old)

[Stretch5920]

Refrain isn't gonna make Kallen jump in her mech and kill japanese in the name of the Emperor. It's a drug. Not mind control. I doubt she will even take it.

[Var]

Originally Posted by gabbytay

Too bad you get addicted to it.

The drug is weird, it only shows addictive qualities to those who are incredibly depressed to begin with. Kallen's mother was on the drug hardcore for godknows how long, but once she found a new source of happiness from her daughter, she began to recover.

[gabbytay]

Originally Posted by Stretch5920

Refrain isn't gonna make Kallen jump in her mech and kill japanese in the name of the Emperor. It's a drug. Not mind control. I doubt she will even take it.

Suzaku will force kallen to take crack must be a rounds thing to take crack(refrain)

[Daniani]

Originally Posted by Var

I was refering to Episode 14, because, quite frankly, C.C. and Lelouch (or at least Lelouch) were at odd ends with one another. She did not even seem all that bothered by his wish to destroy her if he could. Compile this with what she said when killing the Cultists at the end, and it seems that she is really after the end of Geass. She cannot exist if Geass is to disappear.

As for Kallen, they really built her connection to Nunally this episode as well as her resolve. If she does in fact get Refrained, then the reunion between her and Lelouch will have an even larger impact than before.

Maybe for you, but for me, they are no real proofs, just mere assumptions. I don't want to think too much about it... because I will be really sad if I'm wrong in the end.

I see a lot of possibilities in and after Turn 15, for kalulu, and about cc/lulu, so I prefer to stay away from romantic references for now. I really don't want to be disapointed y'nkow....

[ichigo fans]

Unless through emotional contact or Suzaku influences her and tell her everything he knows about Zero / Lelouch. I dont think there are other ways that Kallen will turn against Black Knight or Zero.

Since Refrain will be useless to her
and Geassed her will be useless too.

[Stretch5920]

Originally Posted by gabbytay

Suzaku will force kallen to take crack must be a rounds thing to take crack(refrain)

I doubt that will even happen. I'm betting either she caves, someone interrupts or there is a struggle (she is uncuffed) and Suzaku is the one who is injected with it.

[hanseo]

Originally Posted by Stretch5920

Refrain isn't gonna make Kallen jump in her mech and kill japanese in the name of the Emperor. It's a drug. Not mind control. I doubt she will even take it.

if she doesn't take it then suzaku might make her

[Var]

Originally Posted by hanseo

if she doesn't take it then suzaku might make her

She's not going to willingly take it. It will be on Suzaku's hand to pump her full of the stuff.

[ichigo fans]

Originally Posted by hanseo

if she doesn't take it then suzaku might make her

Make her?
Like through emotional contact or Suzaku influences her and tell her everything he knows about Zero / Lelouch. All the bad things that Zero has done? It is because I dont think there are other ways that Kallen will turn against Black Knight or Zero.

[bran]

if kallen gets refrained we might see some illusions of her brother and the past?
and it will be definetely cc in the world of c (the green hair on the still shot)

[Stretch5920]

Originally Posted by hanseo

if she doesn't take it then suzaku might make her

and she is free to defend herself. So there will be a struggle.

[Var]

Originally Posted by Stretch5920

and she is free to defend herself. So there will be a struggle.

Which only invites someone to walk in on it. I'm not sure what Suzaku is really thinking with this decision. It's like trying to twirl his mustache without having a mustache.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by bran

if kallen gets refrained we might see some illusions of her brother and the past?

Well, if she's refrained, I'm expecting we'll see some flashbacks on her part indeed - maybe we'll then know more about the circumstances that her family were facing back then then...

[ichigo fans]

Originally Posted by Var

Which only invites someone to walk in on it. I'm not sure what Suzaku is really thinking with this decision. It's like trying to twirl his mustache without having a mustache.

Maybe by : through emotional contact or Suzaku influences her and tell her everything he knows about Zero / Lelouch. Telling her about what Zero has done, Geassed a princess and kills thousands of japanese. Influencing her with all the bad deeds that Zero has done.

Other than this way, I dont think there are other ways that Kallen will turn against Black Knight or Zero.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by Var

Which only invites someone to walk in on it. I'm not sure what Suzaku is really thinking with this decision. It's like trying to twirl his mustache without having a mustache.

Well, Suzaku has never been the sharpest knife in the drawer... And he's probably just desperate for infomation as the situation is now.

[Stretch5920]

Kallen already knows Lelouch does bad things. And let's just assume for one minute that Kallen decides that she hates Lelouch. She would then want to go back to the Black Knights and fight alongside Ougi, Toudo,etc.

[Aquaman OS]

She might not be too pleased with his recent massacre either. Had she still been with the order she would have had to participate in it too.

[hanseo]

Originally Posted by ichigo fans

Maybe by : through emotional contact or Suzaku influences her and tell her everything he knows about Zero / Lelouch. Telling her about what Zero has done, Geassed a princess and kills thousands of japanese. Influencing her with all the bad deeds that Zero has done.

Other than this way, I dont think there are other ways that Kallen will turn against Black Knight or Zero.

well they could say if you turn against zero we will kill your mother

[Var]

Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

Well, Suzaku has never been the sharpest knife in the drawer... And he's probably just desperate for infomation as the situation is now.

I seriosuly don't think this if for information. This is torture Kallen and Lelouch... unless he really is a complete idiot.

Originally Posted by Aquaman OS

She might not be too pleased with his recent massacre either. Had she still been with the order she would have had to participate in it too.

Unlike the rest of the Order, she knows the truth about Geass. She knows that it is a cursed thing from C.C.. So her reaction would likely have been completely different. Hell, if she knew Shirley died because of Geass, she might have been on the same boat as Lelouch. She clearly did not believe Suzaku when he blamed Lelouch for Shirley's death.

[hanseo]

Originally Posted by Stretch5920

and she is free to defend herself. So there will be a struggle.

well then looks like they going to fight