2009-04-23, 16:56 | Link #1181 |
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In answer to that, the same reason you would purchase the movies of the Lord of the Rings even while owning the books.
The game has a LOT of blank spaces that an anime could fill out. Some of the scenes presented in the game could be vastly improved by having a constant stream of animation over the "talking head" segments. They could essentially add dozens of smaller "Edy Detachment" parts to the story, because the game tends to have IG weeks/months between some of the missions. If the anime re-tells the major plot points of the game, but travels to different locations along the way without seeming forced, I would view it as a success. Drastically altering characters and adding in a random love-triangle plot where there was none just seems like lazy writing/planning to me when they could be doing so much more with the skeletal story (and it is pretty bare bones, however enjoyable) they've been handed. |
2009-04-23, 17:11 | Link #1182 | |
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As I said, there is a vast amount of difference between animating a manga, and animating Valkyria Chronicles. Due to the advances in cell-shading graphics, Valkyria Chronicles and games like it have reached the point where anime and game blend in. The difference between the two becomes neglectable, and in fact I have heard people say they liked the style of the game better. Whereas animating, say, one of the older Final Fantasies you could claim to be telling the story with great visuals, like how an animated manga is telling the story with moving visuals and voiced characters, Valkyria Chronicles is already an anime of its own in its game format. Perhaps I should explain what I consider a 1:1 adaptation first. I consider any media product that animates an story with at most minor deviations a 1:1 story. Examples of these are Naruto, Bleach and Hunter X Hunter. So far, Valkyria Chronicles has not deviated from the main plot in any significant way. It did, however, change the personalities of two key members of the cast, making it what I consider close to a 1:2 adaptation (1.1,5? Meh, too technical). However, I can still clearly predict what it going to happen, when it's going to happen and how it's going to happen. As someone who has played the game, there really is little merit for me to watch this anime, much less purchase the DVD's when they come out. After all, why should I? I already have the story on my PS3, don't I? Now if they were to introduce a change, a twist in the plot that would make me go "Wait, what? That wasn't in the game! Oh crap, I wonder what's going to happen now?" then I would be eager to watch the next episode. So yes, I am saying the anime should be free to change anything. If not, what reason do I have for watching this? |
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2009-04-23, 17:12 | Link #1183 | |
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At least it won't be as little as TOA... Could it? Dun dun dun~! Not really able to argue anything, but I'm hoping the anime will change all it wants too. At least the game comparisons might stop... (Or maybe it still won't...). Not that I would know what was changed though... Fuh...
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2009-04-23, 17:20 | Link #1184 | ||
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For manga, a similar principle applies. When watching an animated manga, instead of 'I wonder what is going to happen next?' you sit there with the anticipation of 'I wonder how that will look when animated?' Valkyria Chronicles has neither of these advantages. It already displayed a visual world, and it already did so well animated. Quote:
I do not, however, consider the change from talking heads to fluid talking to be of any significant value. Most of the time those scenes were done when people were only... well... talking. Even when animated, not much would happen during those scenes anyway. I agree that if the anime travels to different locations to tell the same story from a different point of view, that would surely increase the enjoyment of watching it (it would make it a complementary story rather then an alternative one) however, so far the anime seems intent on focusing on the same cast it focused on in the game, making that ray of hope... a rather dim one. Hence why I am hoping for a major plot twist. |
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2009-04-23, 17:24 | Link #1185 | |
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Drastic and significant alterations are always a risk. Kalbron said it best when s/he comments on the anime becoming good on its own as an adaptation if it retells the main story while introducing changes or additions that won't feel forced or arbitrary. As long as the anime stays close to the spirit of the original work, then a fan can hardly complain. It's when it gets raped to the ground that fans aren't too happy about. |
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2009-04-23, 17:55 | Link #1186 |
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I know it's a risk, but compared to the certainty of the Valkyria Chronicles anime being a mere repeat of a story I've already seen in the game, it's a risk I'm willing to accept.
I agree that Kalbron's option is a much better one, and indeed it is an option that I myself would prefer as well, however the anime so far has shown every intent to focus on the same characters it has focused on in the game, making the idea of the story being told from a different point of view rather distant. |
2009-04-23, 17:59 | Link #1187 | |
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problem is I do think its hard to capture that spirit, I usually think its ok most of the time but like serenade_beta said before best to see anime and game as 2 different things. well for me I'm ok with alot of the stuff I watch, I'll always have something to complain about but then everyone does ahh anime it brings the worst out of us
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2009-04-24, 00:27 | Link #1193 | |
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Besides, I rather not wait every week to find out what happens next for each episodes; I'd rather have the whole set complete and watch it the thing without the wait. So hopefully by the time I'm finish playing the game, the season will be completed and ready to watch at will. |
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2009-04-25, 04:26 | Link #1195 |
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... doesn't that entirely defeat the purpose of having spoiler tags in the first place?
If people want to know, they can click. If not, they don't have to. It's not like it's that much harder to run into spoilers anywhere else on the internet with roughly the same amount of concious effort as clicking the 'show' button. |
2009-04-25, 08:27 | Link #1196 |
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From what I can see from this anime, it seems that the entire story is based on World War II in its opening stages. Even the designs of the Imperial Army tankettes are pretty much like the German Panzer Is. I am thinking it might be either Poland or Austria.
Edelweiss looks like a scaled down version of the Elephant tank destroyers the Germans used in the later stage of the war. So which means that the Darksen are the Jews? Spoiler for spoiler:
Interesting storyline to follow up. Worth watching.
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2009-04-25, 09:00 | Link #1197 | |
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2009-04-25, 10:27 | Link #1198 | |
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Though I guess it is actually the person who asked the question who should have posted elsewhere first. Oh well, problem solved, so all is well.
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