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I've never had anything against the Higurashi cast coming to join in as Umineko characters. However if they do so, and later on in the answer arcs characters like a Satoko witch come in and her seiyuu is already voicing somebody else, then things might get a bit confusing.
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2009-08-02, 23:03 | Link #1742 |
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How about an Oishii witch? XD XD XD Oh dear oh dear. He'd go around asking meta-Battler to "step inside his car" because "it's air-conditioned!"
Unrelated, but it's really frustrating trying to explain certain concepts central to Umineko to some anime-viewers who don't seem to understand that we're not trying to give them theories, just an idea of how the story works. AND still try to avoid spoilers. I imagine it's only going to get worse. |
2009-08-02, 23:05 | Link #1743 | |
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And if DEEN doesn't explain it enough then we'll help out I suppose. |
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2009-08-03, 00:07 | Link #1745 | |
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"wtf is with Eva-Beatrice" "Maria dies holyshit" "Sniper bunny girls wtf?!" "How did Battler figure it all out with a cigarette??" "LAMBDA IS ACTUALLY THE FINAL BOSS??" Their poor minds. I wonder if anyone will fall for Beatrice's trick though. Hopefully DEEN makes it as effective in the anime as the game did |
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2009-08-03, 00:12 | Link #1746 |
Komrades of Kitamura Kou
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Don't diss em sniper bunny girls bro.
Depends really. Ep3 was a pure sensory assault the moment is began so it's so easy to get caught up in the events to effectively question their validity. There are a lot of scenes that are very questionable but the way it's setup is meant to take you by the testicles (or ovaries whichever applies) and never let go.
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2009-08-03, 00:26 | Link #1748 |
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Considering many people's brains are already fried, EP2 and EP3 are going to kill them.
Some reaction I see so far in blogs and forums: - Confuse (WTH just happen) - Confuse and Angry (WTH just happen, this is going to be suck). - Confuse but encourage to solve the mystery (WTH just happen. I don't believe that witch did them all). - Beatrice worshipper (Beatrice-samaaaaa!!!) - Witches exist. Battler is so idiot or childish that he doesn't accept it (and also anyone who doesn't believe in witches too). Well, there are many more but it would be too much to lists EDIT: After reading Klash's analysis, I feel that the new viewers are going to get mind-screwed so hard. Right now, they can make an argument that witch don't exist because they only appear in the purgatory, not in Rokkenjima. Next arc, with Beatrice in the Rokkenjima, it's gonna be really interesting to see how they react.
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2009-08-03, 00:30 | Link #1749 |
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Looking around on other forums, I see a lot of. "Why is Battler so stupid. Beatrice shows herself and does magic and still thinks they don't exist? This is dumb." And "I was disappointed that the culprit was a witch. Why should I care about the story now that I know it is?" A lot of people also failed to realize that the tea party was the after-life so they were upset with everyone being back alive, thinking it's some huge copout.
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2009-08-03, 01:03 | Link #1751 |
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- They talk about meeting a tragic end and getting a bad end.
- Kanon and Shanon are seen. Characters you know died - When the conversation turns serious, Battler starts asking, don't you want to know who killed you? I think it should have been fairly obvious that it was an after-life of some kind. But I do agree that they've should have shown the word "Purgatorio" when the scene started. If I were a fansubber, I would've added it myself. |
2009-08-03, 08:07 | Link #1753 | |
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If you say that the VN doesn't deny that, it's a lie, because EP4 denies that. If you say that it isn't denied in EP1, it as if you say it's denied later. certain questions can't be answered at all without spoiling ^^;
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2009-08-03, 08:49 | Link #1755 |
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After reading Klash's analysis of episode I-V, something comes into my mind.
What if, Umineko EP 1 is actually not the first time that the massacre happens, as the concept of time in Kakera should not exist. What if Meta-Battler is also a collection of Battler's memory about what happen in Rokkenjima and how it cannot be solved yet? Then could Beatrice is a collection of the thoughts "witch did it"?
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2009-08-03, 08:50 | Link #1756 |
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Meh, I don't think you should have even said that in that thread. The point of my post earlier was to say: no matter how you answer you'd do some damage.
Even saying that "you can't answer" or that it's revealed on EP4, kinda kill the discussion in that thread.
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2009-08-03, 09:04 | Link #1757 |
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Exactly, this is why I had to delete some posts, like meotwister's recent post in first time watchers:
Saying "I can't answer" or insisting on privacy will obviously give way too much elements and implication "something is spoiler sensitive". This is why I asked VN readers not to take part of such thread, except if providing facts alone. Being dodgy/elusive is the best way to deceive or guide first time viewers in a very bad way.
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2009-08-03, 09:17 | Link #1758 |
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Meh. I've already toned down the amount of stuff I usually post in those threads after episode 5 made me realize that watching people squirm in agony after their brains got raped and their theories blown away is a horribly sadistic pleasure I've recently started to enjoy.
Yes I'm a horrible horrible person. And I don't care.
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2009-08-03, 09:30 | Link #1759 |
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Klash, I think should tell the first time viewers that they shouldn't ask for knowledge about the VN. Not in that thread at least. ^^;
It might happen that they ask for something that can't be answered such in this case. The very fact that no one is going to answer (while in many other cases we did answer) could be somewhat spoiling the other readers in such way: "Oh so this is something important" or "so this is something that is revealed in other episodes so there's no point in discussing it now".
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