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Old 2009-09-16, 02:55   Link #19761
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I was pretty much convinced who it was by Mitsuuru's green text rant
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Old 2009-09-16, 03:15   Link #19762
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The Greek symbol for Mars would be a perfect way to represent the stargazing, however Greek (ancient or otherwise) is written out as characters rather then symbols. Besides the fact that Mars is a Roman construct based on the god Ares - which is spelled Ἄρης in Greek. Mars would be written in latin.
I believe the Mars symbol that is being referred to is what most of us are more familiar with as the male symbol.
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Old 2009-09-16, 04:11   Link #19763
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I believe ren'py goes with a /" for them, but I'm not sure... I never really did much with it, to be honest.
\", actually. Being the \ a way to cancel the effect of the next character.

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btw don't worry about ren'py formating odd characters like " and such basicly have to be forced because they have uses in the actual language.
Hmmm, not sure what you mean. All other odd characters that have an actual use in the language are canceled when between comas. Well, exept for %(variable)s, but is not like we will ever need such odd characters.

Anyway, you are kinda right about the ". When not used correctly they screw up so badly with the code that is pretty easy to spot. They also change the color of the txt, so it is even easier.

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There wasn't much editing for me, really... just adding the ren'py formatting, in most places. And I'm going to tackle some more later... I just sorta have to do at least some of my homework. And go to the D&D group I'm DMing. And spend time with my girlfriend... And maybe sleep.
I thaks you a lot because of it. I would also ask to you, while at it, rid off these colons after the characters name. However, I have to point something, what you are doing is a simple grammar revision right? While it is very useful and necessery, is not kinda pointless doing it now? Eventually, someone will ned to edit these texts, and then Kaisos will reedit. Then a new revision will be necessery. So, having one now isn't kinda pointless?

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Actually no. The Mainland forcibly simplified their characters set during the Revolution. Amidst much bloodshed, much of the celebrated system was destroyed in the Mainland. However, there are many, like Taiwanese and other places not affected by the change from mainland, continue to use the beautiful traditional set of characters.
'Mainland' is the continental China right? The People's Republic. I have to apologise here, I kinda totally forgot the other one (Republic of China, also called Taiwan).

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[spoiler="Art Direction Update - Wait, what?"]
September the Third, Day Two


Quick note, I'll no longer include sprite information in these art direction pages. Instead I'm creating a seperate section all-together for them. I'll only mention sprites if a new character (with a completely seperate set of sprites) appears in a scene.
You know, that sprite direction would be really useful for me now. With it, and the standard size of the sprites, I could actually code then into the script even without the actuall image.
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Morning- Carton of Eggs
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Initial – Kyon's Room
“But for the past few nights...” - Ripples Event CG (from prologue)
That Ripple CG is the transition we already have? Or you think they are not good? I usually reffer as 'CG' only the pretty images, so I am kinda confused.

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Special Effect:
During Big Mitsuuru's line – Flashback Effect
Sepia tone replay of that scene. Could be done by either editing the sprite / background / textbox outside of the game and adding it in, or if Ren'py can do it, as a filter effect.
Not sure I understood. How exactly this Flashback Effect looks like?

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*KSSSSSSH* - TV Turning Off Effect
You mean the static here right? Btw, what do you think about what I have done for the TV Turning Off thing? No one gived me an opinion so far so I am unsure.

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Event CG:
“ripple” (see Special Effects) – “Night Time Guest” Observer's POV is centered on Kyon's bed. Kyonko is sitting on it with one foot touching the ground and one partially hanging off the edge. Since she hasn't been “officially” introduced to Kyon, her face would be looking away from the “camera”. One hand can't be seen (the one touching Kyon) while the other is propping her up. There's a large lump under the blanket (Kyon). Kyonko is wearing nothing at allbut a see-through teddylarge t-shirt that goes down to her waistmid-thigh.
This was a hard CG to describe...
You know, I don't really like that idea of hidding Kyonko and Itsuko face until they meting Kyon. Is not like their face is a secret or something like that, so is kinda awkward.

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Joke Guess of the Day that Isn't My Actual Thoughts:
Greentext is Kaisosko.

It only makes no total sense! Only Kaisos (and his genderbent self) would be possible of creating something as fuckedupcrazyawesome as Greentext's lines.
That is actuallly a very amuzing idea.

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The Greek symbol for Mars would be a perfect way to represent the stargazing, however Greek (ancient or otherwise) is written out as characters rather then symbols. Besides the fact that Mars is a Roman construct based on the god Ares - which is spelled Ἄρης in Greek. Mars would be written in latin.
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I believe the Mars symbol that is being referred to is what most of us are more familiar with as the male symbol.
Yes, it was about that symbol I was talking about.


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I've seen screens from the Sunohara end. It sounds hilarious. Oh wait, I found this...
Spoiler for Spoilers, and GAY:

So OOC, but god damn is that funny. Great end or greatest end?
You know, I have the impression all Bad Ends have Tomoya being OOC, to explain how he get this bad end in the first place. I finaly finished Fujibayashi route, and the only bad after a certan point (i.e., if I miss a single right aswer I get it, no really matter if it make sense or not) have Tomoya doing what he was suppose to do in the first place (breaking with Ryou earlier) but in such bastard manner that nor Ryou or Kyou whant to talk to him again after it...

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That really works, actually, since Hisao kept reminding me of an emo Kunikida.

Seriously. Without his "broken heart", Hisao would be the most boring male lead ever.
You say the truth. Even Fate!Shirou annoys me less then him. The game is still great, tough. Even if is solely by the fact is a very well done fan game.

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Also Kenji is the best male supporting character ever.
I also agree. They should do an actually Gay End with him. One where you live, that is it.

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I dunno, Jet Saito is a pretty epic end too.
Jet what? How many hidden ends Clannad have? I really tought it was just one for each character.

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I should hope so.

To be fair, guys, it should be really obvious...
Yet, no one have guessed right.

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Man, why the tread become so active when I spend one day alway?
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Old 2009-09-16, 08:47   Link #19764
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I believe the Mars symbol that is being referred to is what most of us are more familiar with as the male symbol.
Yes, which is one of the planetary symbols. Which anyone who watched Sailor Moon when they were younger should be familiar with.

...

*cough*
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\", actually. Being the \ a way to cancel the effect of the next character.

Hmmm, not sure what you mean. All other odd characters that have an actual use in the language are canceled when between comas. Well, exept for %(variable)s, but is not like we will ever need such odd characters.

Anyway, you are kinda right about the ". When not used correctly they screw up so badly with the code that is pretty easy to spot. They also change the color of the txt, so it is even easier.

I thaks you a lot because of it. I would also ask to you, while at it, rid off these colons after the characters name. However, I have to point something, what you are doing is a simple grammar revision right? While it is very useful and necessery, is not kinda pointless doing it now? Eventually, someone will ned to edit these texts, and then Kaisos will reedit. Then a new revision will be necessery. So, having one now isn't kinda pointless?
Will do on the formatting stuff. And I figure I'm doing a lot of the grunt work to make Jintor's work easier. Also, I am re-reading the pages surrounding the posts, so I'll incorporate anything I find that we discussed changing.

I meant to add a request for a suitable punishment for Kyon for smashing the camera, because I still can't think of anything... >.>
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Oh? Go on.
Older Mikuuru that's gone a little bit crazy for some reason. (This is added to my earlier two theories of some sort of meta-Kyonko that remembers everything from Endless Eight and Fang-tan.) Reasoning: the Mitsuuru scene and the fact that she no longer hears the voice once Mitsuuru leaves the clubroom.

Not my favorite of the three, but... I figure it's workable (unless it was shot down already).
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Man, why the tread become so active when I spend one day alway?
Obviously, the thread is seeking revenge. Did you do something to make it angry, Heatth? Like maybe... BEAT THE TOPIC WITH A STEEL PIPE AND THEN SHOVE IT INTO A TUB FULL OF LYE?
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Old 2009-09-16, 08:55   Link #19765
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Old 2009-09-16, 10:37   Link #19766
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I could always give hints to those who want them... not that anything I say should really be trusted...
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Old 2009-09-16, 11:06   Link #19767
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"The Grass is Always Greener"

Somehow I read this as "The Geass is Always Greener"
Since when are Geasses green?
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Old 2009-09-16, 12:11   Link #19768
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Will do on the formatting stuff. And I figure I'm doing a lot of the grunt work to make Jintor's work easier. Also, I am re-reading the pages surrounding the posts, so I'll incorporate anything I find that we discussed changing.
I see. Thanks for your work. Again.

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I meant to add a request for a suitable punishment for Kyon for smashing the camera, because I still can't think of anything... >.>
More finantial penalty maybe? Making he pay for every one in the Brigade(exept for Mikuru). We could also add a variable Broke=True, meaning he can't buy anything after that if he pick both penaltys. No cue how it would affect the story.

I can't think in nothing as criative as her punishment at Charmed at Fist Sight LOVER!, tough.

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Older Mikuuru that's gone a little bit crazy for some reason. (This is added to my earlier two theories of some sort of meta-Kyonko that remembers everything from Endless Eight and Fang-tan.) Reasoning: the Mitsuuru scene and the fact that she no longer hears the voice once Mitsuuru leaves the clubroom.
...Amuzing.

Anyway, didn't Kyonko say it was a female? She called it 'she' in Separation.

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Obviously, the thread is seeking revenge. Did you do something to make it angry, Heatth? Like maybe... BEAT THE TOPIC WITH A STEEL PIPE AND THEN SHOVE IT INTO A TUB FULL OF LYE?
Bu.. but I.... I... wasn't the only one was I? And Clannad is not that far from the topic, anyway (VN, Kyoto Animation...).

Danm you thread! Iwill remember it!
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More finantial penalty maybe? Making he pay for every one in the Brigade(exept for Mikuru). We could also add a variable Broke=True, meaning he can't buy anything after that if he pick both penaltys. No cue how it would affect the story.

I can't think in nothing as criative as her punishment at Charmed at Fist Sight LOVER!, tough.
Awesome penalty was awesome. Shame the misunderstanding was taken care of.

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Anyway, didn't Kyonko say it was a female? She called it 'she' in Separation.
Which is why Mikuru was mentioned. Not really sure why the first u was doubled, though.
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Old 2009-09-16, 12:41   Link #19770
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Awesome penalty was awesome. Shame the misunderstanding was taken care of.
Agree. A pitty.

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Which is why Mikuru was mentioned. Not really sure why the first u was doubled, though.
Ah, make sense. I read Mitsuuru, for some reason. Probably that double u.


...Double u... Should Mitswru be read the same as Mitsuuru?

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Wait, he said 'Mitsuuru' latter! Twice! Are you trying to confuse me?
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Old 2009-09-16, 12:55   Link #19771
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Agree. A pitty.



Ah, make sense. I read Mitsuuru, for some reason. Probably that double u.


...Double u... Should Mitswru be read the same as Mitsuuru?

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Wait, he said 'Mitsuuru' latter! Twice! Are you trying to confuse me?
Sorry about the extra U in Mikuru. I blame it on typing Mitsuuru too often.

And that is, in fact, the source of the letter "w": in many ancient languages, the sound that "w" represents was written as two "u"s very close to each other. (Theban, for example). And in some modern languages, the long "u" sound can double as a "w" sound (arabic, for example: و is either "uu" or "w" depending on the context. And region.)

When I said "the Mitsuuru scene," I was referring to the first major choice for Mitsuuru in Universe A, when the greentext goes crazycrazier. (aka, Mitsuuru's This is the story of a... scene). And in "Separation," she hears greentext while Mitsuuru is still around, but once he leaves (and she subsequently runs into Tsuruya-san, which is also an argument for it being one of the two Tsuruyas) she doesn't hear it anymore.

Again, not my favorite of my three theories, but it was something I thought up while editing. Closer reading and whatnot.
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Old 2009-09-16, 13:03   Link #19772
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Sorry about the extra U in Mikuru. I blame it on typing Mitsuuru too often.

When I said "the Mitsuuru scene," I was referring to the first major choice for Mitsuuru in Universe A, when the greentext goes crazycrazier. (aka, Mitsuuru's This is the story of a... scene )And in "Separation," she hears greentext while Mitsuuru is still around, but once he leaves (and she subsequently runs into Tsuruya-san, which is also an argument for it being one of the two Tsuruyas) she doesn't hear it anymore.
I see my mistake then. Nice thinking, btw. I can't comment further, tough. I already knows who/what she is, so any word could be a hint. Danchou would be mad with me.

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And that is, in fact, the source of the letter "w": in many ancient languages, the sound that "w" represents was written as two "u"s very close to each other. (Theban, for example). And in some modern languages, the long "u" sound can double as a "w" sound (arabic, for example: و is either "uu" or "w" depending on the context. And region.)
Ah, I've forgot you like languages. Well, the W name is double-u, after all. It is why it has this shape right? Two Vs. U and V used to be the same letter, if I am not mistake.

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Again, not my favorite of my three theories, but it was something I thought up while editing. Closer reading and whatnot.
How are the other 3? I am curious now.
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Old 2009-09-16, 16:55   Link #19773
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Ah, I've forgot you like languages. Well, the W name is double-u, after all. It is why it has this shape right? Two Vs. U and V used to be the same letter, if I am not mistake.
Correct. At least, in the languages that I have some vague knowledge of (my girlfriend is a better resource on this then I am, I fear).

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How are the other 3? I am curious now.
I mentioned the others in the previous post: evil Kyonko-variant that remembers all of Endless Eight (my preferred theory) or Tsuruya-chan (more because of coincidences in the script and the green-ness of the greentext then thinking she'd pull something that cruel).

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Spoiler for September the Fourth, Day 3, Interlude 3: A Room- Left Behind:
>.> Overuse of commas...

Also, this line
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bugs me, but I'm having trouble thinking of a rewrite. Suggestions?

Also, spawnofthejudge made a good point when he said that cell phones default to voice mail if the phone is out of the service area. Anyone want to write little voice mail messages for Haruki to click off halfway through? Or do we prefer the suspense (and avoiding the "why didn't he just leave a voicemail" discussion) of leaving them as-is.
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Spoiler for September the Fifth, Day 4: Morning (To School)- The Darkness Before Dawn:
You know I've been living here too long when I have to stop and wonder if "misremember" is a Bush-ism. (It's not, by the way... and according to Wiktionary, it's been around for some time. Still don't like it, though.)

EDIT: Should I keep going, or is this enough for now?
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I mentioned the others in the previous post: evil Kyonko-variant that remembers all of Endless Eight (my preferred theory) or Tsuruya-chan (more because of coincidences in the script and the green-ness of the greentext then thinking she'd pull something that cruel).
Ah, I haven't noticied. Nice theorys.

However, if you are going for the color, I would say Kimidori(f) is obviously the better choice. I am speaking about th dog.

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You know I've been living here too long when I have to stop and wonder if "misremember" is a Bush-ism. (It's not, by the way... and according to Wiktionary, it's been around for some time. Still don't like it, though.)

EDIT: Should I keep going, or is this enough for now?
...What is a 'Bush-ism'. The president? He was famous for mistaking words?

Anyway, I remember reading 'isremember' in a school book. So I can't see why you don't like it.


And, today, it was a slow day. No one else aroud?
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Old 2009-09-16, 21:02   Link #19777
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... Come on... green? I did the whole card shtick a while back? It should be obvious... Provided I'm being serious, at any rate.
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Old 2009-09-16, 23:37   Link #19778
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I believe the Mars symbol that is being referred to is what most of us are more familiar with as the male symbol.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU...
Yeah, I'm an idiot. I don't even have an excuse here, as I watched sailor moon when I was a kid as much as the next guy my age.

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You know, that sprite direction would be really useful for me now. With it, and the standard size of the sprites, I could actually code then into the script even without the actuall image.
I'll... get on it. Damn is it tedious though. I shouldn't complain, it can't be as tedious as coding.
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That Ripple CG is the transition we already have? Or you think they are not good? I usually reffer as 'CG' only the pretty images, so I am kinda confused.
I wrote that when in my notes the ripple was still a CG. Just consider it the same as the Ripple transition in the prologue.
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Not sure I understood. How exactly this Flashback Effect looks like?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepia_tone
It's a style during tv shows, animation, movies etc. where a flashback scene (a scene where one is remember something that already happened) is painted over in a sepia tone. It got popular usage due to the fact that old photographs used sepia toning.
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You mean the static here right? Btw, what do you think about what I have done for the TV Turning Off thing? No one gived me an opinion so far so I am unsure.
As far as I remember, we all thought it was fine. My memory of it is foggy though
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You know, I don't really like that idea of hidding Kyonko and Itsuko face until they meting Kyon. Is not like their face is a secret or something like that, so is kinda awkward.
It's fine if their face is seen from a side angle, or something. I guess the whole "not fully showing them till they are introuduced to Kyon" isn't necessary, but I really liked the idea.
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Old 2009-09-16, 23:40   Link #19779
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The whole VN would be dependent on point of view, correct? Who see's what and when.
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Old 2009-09-16, 23:46   Link #19780
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....too many posts to read....is it worth reading all 990 pages, or should i just read from this on? what do you guys think?

anyways, i was reading the Crossroads Visual Novel, and i couldn't help but laugh all through out, hahaha....btw, what was up with the Green Text i saw at the beginning?seriously
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