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Old 2010-02-20, 23:06   Link #22301
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The Asahina one was nice, and even though I know Mitsuuru isn't wearing the bunny ears anymore, I still got a flash of B.Rabbit when his face darkened.

The Haruhi one... what a major mind-fuck. Need a follow-up to make proper sense out of it.
Kyon is hallucinating. In a half-closed space, which Kyon seems to have figured out what is happening and Haruhi is on the other side (the real world).
Could that person (notice he's a boy) be Haruki? He should be wearing his headphones, but since they're in the other Universe, maybe he resorted to headbands? Was Haruhi really choking?
I love mindfucks. They like, fuck with my mind.

Now where did Mikuru go to? Suddenly disappearing like that, don't make Kyon-kun worry! What does Kyon mean be "He knows" at the end? Is it like 'He knows that we know that he's stalking us'?

Looks like we'll hafta wait for the next scene to figure it out. This IS just a preview...
Damn I can already imagine what this VN is like in anime format. A style like CLANNAD, maybe? Too bad I suck at drawing.
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Old 2010-02-21, 02:04   Link #22302
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Only another preview today, but it's longer than last time.

Spoiler for "Noon" preview:

Sorry about the slowdown.
Excellent work! ^^ The Asahina route has a bit more buildup than the Haruhi route, but I like them both. I wonder about the ramifications of Haruhi being half-killed, so to speak. Does this act deprive her of some or all of her power?
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Old 2010-02-21, 11:29   Link #22303
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I wonder about the ramifications of Haruhi being half-killed, so to speak. Does this act deprive her of some or all of her power?
It's probably more likely to awaken it. Remember, Haruki's awakened when he was "killed" by the truck and yet was still alive. He merely confirmed it when he resurrected the driver.
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Old 2010-02-21, 18:22   Link #22304
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Only another preview today, but it's longer than last time.

Spoiler for "Noon" preview:

Sorry about the slowdown.
Very good scenes. After such boring mornings, the noon is very intriguing.

Haruhi's one is, oviously, too weird to be fully comprehended. But, don't know if it was your intention, it is not clear if real world!Kyon is acting the same way closed space!Kyon. I would suppose yes, but Haruhi don't seen to find odd he running randomly against the air. In other hand his face seens to be the same in both worlds.

Mikuru's was also very good. It is the end or there will be more. The last line seens to be a good line to finish a scene, but then it would be too shord. Btw, isn't vitoria-era suit what the male goth loli people wear? While don't make it less weird, I guess Kyon might reconise it.

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Was Haruhi really choking?
Unlikely. SHe replied after her 'death', so I assume Kyon just imagined all of it (as well as the sound of her being choked)

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Now where did Mikuru go to? Suddenly disappearing like that, don't make Kyon-kun worry! What does Kyon mean be "He knows" at the end? Is it like 'He knows that we know that he's stalking us'?
I believe it is just that Kyon noticed Mitsuuru had noticed the stalking. Mitsuuru, most likely, didn't turn around and goes to Kyon by change, he noticed he was beinf followed. Now I think on it, Has Mitsuuru alreadly seen male!Kyonko and female!him yet? Does he knows who Kyon is?

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I wonder about the ramifications of Haruhi being half-killed, so to speak. Does this act deprive her of some or all of her power?
I wouldn't say to quickly she was 'half-killed'. We don't know yet how much of it was real.
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Old 2010-02-21, 22:04   Link #22305
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Btw, isn't vitoria-era suit what the male goth loli people wear? While don't make it less weird, I guess Kyon might reconise it.
I kind of get the feeling that gothlolis (or any kind of alternative fashion) aren't a common sight in Nishinomiya.
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Old 2010-02-22, 04:24   Link #22306
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I kind of get the feeling that gothlolis (or any kind of alternative fashion) aren't a common sight in Nishinomiya.
I wasn't saying it was. As I said, it don't make even a bit less weird. I just fell that Kyon might have reconise the style and make a comment. Just a small suggestion.

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Old 2010-02-22, 07:25   Link #22307
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I still think we need a scene or two from Kyonko's perspective.
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Old 2010-02-22, 07:58   Link #22308
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I agree with that. I am starting to miss her already. I also would like a scene with Kyon from her perspective, but I don't think it is going to happen.
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Old 2010-02-22, 11:09   Link #22309
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Order of narrative importance: Kyon, Kyonko, third-person narrator.

If a scene prominently features Kyon, he narrates. If a scene features Kyonko but not Kyon, or if it features both but Kyon is just "there," she narrates. If neither is present, we get a third-person narrator.

The only exceptions to this are the Flashes in Space scenes, but that should be obvious.
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Old 2010-02-23, 03:43   Link #22310
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But what's true for one is true for the other, so technically they're both on the same narrative importance level right?
But meh, whatever. So long as there is one scene in her perspective I'm fine with it.
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Old 2010-02-23, 05:13   Link #22311
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Gah, finally done.

I hate working.

Spoiler for September the Seventh, Day 6, Memories: Flashes in Space (Sign):


Haruki really doesn't do much in this story... I'm grateful I don't have to do a version of Vol. 7 like this, heh.
Truthfully, Haruki is a really scary person. His thoughts are filled with narcissism and possessiveness that wouldn't be out of place in a stalker criminal profile. But I'd be even more scared to see Haruhi's feminine megalomania in a similar fashion. But since she's on the surface a tsundere, it's out of sight, out of mind.

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Only another preview today, but it's longer than last time.

Spoiler for "Noon" preview:

Sorry about the slowdown.
Well, this stuff is good. As pointed out, you could be more graphic in describing Mitsuuru's clothes. Victorian-era clothes for men is just plain formal these days, not particularly weird. Unless they've got the high collars, vest and coat in summer, and a top hat. Also, maybe Victorian could be switched to Meiji for full weabooness.
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Old 2010-02-23, 05:24   Link #22312
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As pointed out, you could be more graphic in describing Mitsuuru's clothes.
I did that already. There was an entire scene about it.

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Victorian-era clothes for men is just plain formal these days, not particularly weird.
...? How many people do you see walking about in suits like that who aren't at weddings? Furthermore, keep in mind that this is Nishinomiya, not Shibuya. It's in the Kansai region, where people are not particularly known for being at the height of fashion.

It's definitely not a common sight, although it isn't that strange. What's less common is a young boy dressed in that getup...

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Also, maybe Victorian could be switched to Meiji for full weabooness.
This is an English-language VN... I try to use as little Japanese as possible.
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Old 2010-02-23, 06:29   Link #22313
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I did that already. There was an entire scene about it.



...? How many people do you see walking about in suits like that who aren't at weddings? Furthermore, keep in mind that this is Nishinomiya, not Shibuya. It's in the Kansai region, where people are not particularly known for being at the height of fashion.

It's definitely not a common sight, although it isn't that strange. What's less common is a young boy dressed in that getup...
Victorian is just too generic of a term; unless there's definitely somehing that's out of fashion implied, it would be more reasonable for a person would think "Is there a formal being held nearby?" rather than "That's Victorian cosplay." Hence, it might be good to describe details that are definitely not in fashion; e.g. top hats, coat tails, pocketwatch, riding breeches, cravat, the high collar, or noticeably warm clothing during summer. These are example of particularly out of fashion clothing, unless you're fabulous.

Edit: On second thought, jovi could easily draw it instead. Never mind, carry on.

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This is an English-language VN... I try to use as little Japanese as possible.
I understand why you wouldn't want to, really. But it has to be pointed out that a Japanese character might be more likely to reference his own history. Any Japanese oils easily tell you how many years in the Heisei era they are.
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This is an English-language VN... I try to use as little Japanese as possible.
This isn't really 'japanese'. Well, while most people wouldn't reconise the name 'meiji', I believe most anime-fan would reconise the clothes (it is a visual novel, after all). Even non-anime fan can tell it is an 'old japanese outfist'. I doubt it would be a problem, at most someone would lear that 'meiji era' existed in japan (tough he might think it was 200+ years ago ).

Not that I support the change, btw. I really like the Victoria era stuff, and it somehow fit Mitsuuru more then Meiji Era. Also, Victoria era suit is not just a formal suit, it can be a lot more weird then that.

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I understand why you wouldn't want to, really. But it has to be pointed out that a Japanese character might be more likely to reference his own history. Any Japanese oils easily tell you how many years in the Heisei era they are.
I agree with that point. Not for Mitsuuru clothes, but in general. Not particularly important, tough. As long it don't sound they are living in Canada it is fine.

Related to it, however, I will question why they don't use the metric sistem. I don't care if it is english VN, more people in the world can understand that. Btw, haven't Canada adopted metric system already? At last is what Wikipedia tells me. It is not particularly importatnt, but it has bugging me for a time now.
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Since I'm having trouble thinking up ideas and motivating myself, I'm going to solicit here.

What would you people like to see Nagato do during her "ceremony" in which she 'exorcises' the headphones?

I have an idea of how I want the scene to end, but any good concepts you guys can think up would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 2010-02-23, 19:18   Link #22316
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Stumbled at Nagato again.

Well, most of time Nagato does anything there is few to no special effects, so I will suggest she just, staring the headphones for a while in the begining (with Kyon imagining if she doing anything at all). Since the headphones are likelly to fight back somehow I would say Nagato stal idle, or mostly idle (like in the fight with Asakura) for most of time, msotly just moving her mouth to her chanting.

To sum up, I suggest any flashy move to come from the other party, not from Nagato.
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Okay, here's what you should do. She should be wearing a tinfoil hat, blue and purple parachute pants, a bright red vest with large yellow wings attached to the back and an inner tube with a green duck head around her waist. No exceptions, it has to be green.

She should be standing on just her left leg, balancing two basketballs in her right hand, waving her left arm in an 8 pattern and have a five pound weight strapped to her elevated right foot.

While she's doing this, an instrumental, backwards version of Hooked on a Feeling (or as close to it as we can legally get away with) as played on panpipes should be in the background. It has nothing to do with what she's doing, it should just be playing in the background. I don't know why.

The following statement should be said at least once, backwards, in German (Because the Japanese seem to love German): "I am the Mushroom Queen; all hail the turnip."

This next part is absolutely, positively non-negotiable: She must have an ostrich wearing an over-sized pair of heart-shaped sunglasses and a white feather boa in the room. I have no idea where she would obtain such a thing, but she must have it.

In addition, Kyon should be required to wear a pink t-shirt with "BAD MAN" written across the front and sitting in the lotus position. No reason, I just find it funny.

As for the ceremony itself, I really don't care what you do.



... Okay, so I'm just joking around. I really don't expect you to do any of this.
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Old 2010-02-23, 20:30   Link #22318
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Okay, here's what you should do. She should be wearing a tinfoil hat, blue and purple parachute pants, a bright red vest with large yellow wings attached to the back and an inner tube with a green duck head around her waist. No exceptions, it has to be green.
As wacky as this sounds, it gave me an idea. Perhaps after Kyon sits down, she pulls out something (pillow, figure, balloon, something) with the shape and color of Kimidori-san from Haruhi-chan. Of course, Kyon looks at it with bewilderment and asks what it is. Yuki says in her standard monotone, "Medium."

And Kyon, of course, just has to accept it.
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Old 2010-02-23, 21:56   Link #22319
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Just wanted to say that I've been listening to the Disappearance Movie OST recently, and there are a lot of awesome tracks that would fit well in the VN.
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Well, this stuff is good. As pointed out, you could be more graphic in describing Mitsuuru's clothes. Victorian-era clothes for men is just plain formal these days, not particularly weird. Unless they've got the high collars, vest and coat in summer, and a top hat. Also, maybe Victorian could be switched to Meiji for full weabooness.
I think that anything worn by the Third Doctor would qualify as "Victorian."
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