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StrawHatLuffy23 · 2010-04-22, 10:37

Is the Anonymous sub for Episode 3 decent? I know it's not gonna be as good as Frozen or maybe even Commie, but it's good right?

Kanon · 2010-04-22, 10:59

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Originally Posted by StrawHatLuffy23

Is the Anonymous sub for Episode 3 decent? I know it's not gonna be as good as Frozen or maybe even Commie, but it's good right?

It was actually surprisingly good for a speedsub. Good ahead if you don't want to wait for FroZen.

elindir · 2010-04-22, 15:41

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Originally Posted by StrawHatLuffy23

Is the Anonymous sub for Episode 3 decent? I know it's not gonna be as good as Frozen or maybe even Commie, but it's good right?

Commie's last release was really bad considering that the size was 680 MB-ish. The Anonymous group's release is considerably smaller, and the translation is also pretty good.

klare · 2010-04-23, 06:45

i think eps 3 simply make more ppl hate that long face warden

i am looking forward to Sakuragi's story

Keefer · 2010-04-23, 08:54

Frostii's sub is out. Filesize is huge though (452 MB).

musouka · 2010-04-23, 13:02

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People have varying degrees of a threshold of drama they can take until it feels a bit to melodramatic and contrived and becomes a Deus Angst Machina. Some have a low threshold and others have a high threshold. It's really just about taste. I thought the first episode was a bit too much but enjoyed the second episode a lot.

This show isn't a drama; it's a melodrama.

Unfortunately, that word has entered our vernacular as something negative, to be avoided, but melodramas aren't necessarily bad. By allowing the characters to be painted with broad strokes, it invites audience participation through identification with the characters involved. The point of a melodrama isn't to feel "poor Joe, and his unique struggle" it's to feel "oh god, what if I was put into prison and my beloved sister was going to be adopted by a pedophile?"

The more complex a character becomes, the further away they drift from the audience as constructs. Making them into a fully fledged person means imbuing them with a sense of privacy to their actions, the same kind we would give to a real person. Writing a melodrama, if done correctly, means that the audience is being invited in to share the exact same ups and downs as the characters.

Now, whether you feel this show is "done right" is another story. But if you're not willing to put aside yourself and buy into the story, then it makes sense that this series would have absolutely no emotional resonance for you.

MeoTwister5 · 2010-04-23, 20:52

After seeing episode 2 it should be obvious by now that the exaggerated animation of the more "evil" adults weren't simply to make them look more of the part in a cliched sense but also likely symbolic and caricature-ish of sorts, to try and signify more the ugliness of humanity reflected not only in their actions but also in their looks. I mean it's nothing new to me since even the tamest of shows consciously or unconsciously do it, but not a lot do it as obvious and self-aware (?) as this series.

That said... the flashback of the grotesque orphanage director "pleasuring" herself on Joe has to be one of the most disgusting and disturbing things I've seen animated on a supposedly safe for TV show like this. Surprised it made it past the censors.

deadharbor · 2010-04-24, 10:24

I think this series will never appeal to me. The story is just so melodramatic and not even in a good way but kind of just laughable and amateurish. I don't know, even the character design isn't my cup of tea. Were reformatories in that era really like this? These people act like they're in death row.

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That said... the flashback of the grotesque orphanage director "pleasuring" herself on Joe has to be one of the most disgusting and disturbing things I've seen animated on a supposedly safe for TV show like this. Surprised it made it past the censors.

I didn't find it that disturbing because i know it's done for shock value. Seems like this anime just want to cram stuff down our throat and it's really not working with me.

Kanon · 2010-04-24, 13:25

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I think this series will never appeal to me. The story is just so melodramatic and not even in a good way but kind of just laughable and amateurish. I don't know, even the character design isn't my cup of tea. Were reformatories in that era really like this? These people act like they're in death row.

I'm inclined to think that was the case. The writer of Rainbow, George Abe, spent some time there in his childhood, and from what I gathered, he based the characters on people he knew. Now, I'm not sure if he's exaggerated things or not, but it shouldn't be too far from reality.

sangofe · 2010-04-24, 23:48

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Frostii's sub is out. Filesize is huge though (452 MB).

No, FroZen's (Frostii + saizen...) sub came out... And it'd be great if they keep this quality and speed combined up

-Sho- · 2010-04-25, 08:00

Episode 3 was ok . Cliche stuffs .

I like so much the OP and ED ^^

Psycho_Kenshin · 2010-04-26, 23:37

I'm loving Rainbow, its grabbed me really fast, I'm already invested in the characters for the long haul.

One thing thats nice is that there's that glimmering light of hope. We have the guys in a hellish situation, but the intro and the prologue lets us know that they get out and we see how they look in the future, which works really well.

The epic scope is something I really dig, so here's hoping they manage to keep the anime running to cover the full manga.

Casshern · 2010-05-01, 04:59

At the end of Frozen's version there's a few seconds commentary/"interview" from the mangaka.

Damn, I'm desperate to find the OP song, Coldrain - We're not Alone. Anyone know when the OST is coming out?

Roloko vi Britannia · 2010-05-01, 07:16

Spoiler for episode 4:

Kanon · 2010-05-01, 17:01

Spoiler for ep 4:

king12354 · 2010-05-01, 20:34

Spoiler for Ep 4:

StrawHatLuffy23 · 2010-05-01, 20:37

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Spoiler for Ep 4:

Yeah I was wondering that too

klare · 2010-05-01, 21:22

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Originally Posted by king12354

Spoiler for Ep 4:

seeing how his character is, i am guessing he injured someone while protecting someone

i am thinking will this end up being a boxing show

leongsh · 2010-05-02, 01:35

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i am thinking will this end up being a boxing show

Not really. Yes, there will be boxing but there will also be narcotics, turf war, protection racket, natural disaster, swindling, etc, assuming that they will adapt the whole manga into anime.

By the way, the anime is currently covering 4 manga chapters per episode, with the exception of the 1st episode. At that pace, Episode 13 would end nicely at a natural stepping off point (end of Volume 5 of the manga). Hopefully it doesn't and that the opening scene in the OP is indicative of it.

Vicious108 · 2010-05-02, 02:04

It'd be nice if they went and covered the entire manga. Since there's no confirmed episode count yet there's a chance it may happen right? If Madhouse did it with Monster they can do it with Rainbow too.

Anyways, just watched episode 4 and it was amazing. I REALLY can't wait for the soundtrack to come out, because it's truly god tier.

2010-04-26, 23:37	Link #92
Psycho_Kenshin Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA	I'm loving Rainbow, its grabbed me really fast, I'm already invested in the characters for the long haul. One thing thats nice is that there's that glimmering light of hope. We have the guys in a hellish situation, but the intro and the prologue lets us know that they get out and we see how they look in the future, which works really well. The epic scope is something I really dig, so here's hoping they manage to keep the anime running to cover the full manga. __________________ Psycho_Kenshin.myanimelist.net

2010-05-01, 07:16	Link #94
Roloko vi Britannia The Dark Empress Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Battleship Hyperion Age: 34	Spoiler for episode 4: I loved this episode we finally know Sakuragi's past and I liked how they helped each other out of the fire. Finally that warden gets whats coming to him and I think that doctor is going to do something unthinkable to Sakuragi in next weeks episode I mean you can just tell from his face he is intending to do something bad. __________________

2010-05-01, 17:01	Link #95
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Spoiler for ep 4: Turns out Sakuragi didn't kill his parents, or anyone else for that matter, though I definitely understand why he would feel responsible for the death of his father. I doubt he'll ever get over that guilt, that's the kind of thing that stays with you for your whole life. Sakuragi punching the guard was quite satisfying. After this episode, I'm starting to understand some of the negative critics I've read about the manga. The friendship theme is already starting to get heavy. So far it doesn't bother me, that will depend on how naive it will get. __________________

2010-05-01, 20:34	Link #96
king12354 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Spoiler for Ep 4: Sakuragi didn't really kill his father so why did he get imprisoned?

2010-04-22, 10:37	Link #81
StrawHatLuffy23 Member Join Date: Mar 2007	Is the Anonymous sub for Episode 3 decent? I know it's not gonna be as good as Frozen or maybe even Commie, but it's good right?

2010-04-23, 06:45	Link #84
klare Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	i think eps 3 simply make more ppl hate that long face warden i am looking forward to Sakuragi's story

2010-04-23, 08:54	Link #85
Keefer Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009	Frostii's sub is out. Filesize is huge though (452 MB).

2010-04-23, 20:52	Link #87
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	After seeing episode 2 it should be obvious by now that the exaggerated animation of the more "evil" adults weren't simply to make them look more of the part in a cliched sense but also likely symbolic and caricature-ish of sorts, to try and signify more the ugliness of humanity reflected not only in their actions but also in their looks. I mean it's nothing new to me since even the tamest of shows consciously or unconsciously do it, but not a lot do it as obvious and self-aware (?) as this series. That said... the flashback of the grotesque orphanage director "pleasuring" herself on Joe has to be one of the most disgusting and disturbing things I've seen animated on a supposedly safe for TV show like this. Surprised it made it past the censors.

2010-04-25, 08:00	Link #91
-Sho- ~Omedetô~ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell !	Episode 3 was ok . Cliche stuffs . I like so much the OP and ED ^^

2010-05-01, 04:59	Link #93
Casshern Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004	At the end of Frozen's version there's a few seconds commentary/"interview" from the mangaka. Damn, I'm desperate to find the OP song, Coldrain - We're not Alone. Anyone know when the OST is coming out?

2010-05-02, 02:04	Link #100
Vicious108 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007	It'd be nice if they went and covered the entire manga. Since there's no confirmed episode count yet there's a chance it may happen right? If Madhouse did it with Monster they can do it with Rainbow too. Anyways, just watched episode 4 and it was amazing. I REALLY can't wait for the soundtrack to come out, because it's truly god tier.