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Perfect 10 | 92 | 52.27% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 36 | 20.45% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 29 | 16.48% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 12 | 6.82% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 4 | 2.27% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.57% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 1.14% | |
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2011-03-03, 20:52 | Link #81 |
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Aren't we the same though? Sure, I wouldn't say that we should just suck it in and be their power generators, however we cannot be get all high and mighty when we are basically the same.
And that's the real face of this series. Gen Urobuchi has taken after Shōji Kawamori and his environmentalist agenda. *shudder*.
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2011-03-03, 20:54 | Link #82 |
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Not really. Since in this universe, humans are self-sustaining to the point where they can repower the entire universe.
We get to decide if we want to sacrifice ourselves to save everyone else. Being sacrificed in order to do that is no sacrifice at all (you could even call that an act of *gasp* evil). And revealing the least information possible in order to manipulate troubled young girls (especially when it's implied that this could work with ALL humans) is inexcusable. As for environmentalist agendas, at least humans are self-introspective in terms of the environment. All other species would simply grow and consume unchecked if possible. Only humans actively worry about and devise methods that can even be self-detrimental in order to protect something as vague as "the planet". |
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2011-03-03, 20:58 | Link #85 | |
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The very fact they can decide to "sacrifice little for the greater" means they have a sense of morality. They just decided they have the right to choose for humans as well. In that case, humans can choose that QB's race members are just parasites that should die. |
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2011-03-03, 21:00 | Link #86 | |
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I laugh at how QB stated this so boldly:
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2011-03-03, 21:02 | Link #87 | ||
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2011-03-03, 21:04 | Link #88 |
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QB's race are the ones using up too much energy.
For the greater good of the universe, the entire technology of using human emotional energy should be given to humans. Then QB's race should commit mass suicide. It's for the greatest good of the whole universe |
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Humans simply don't have the technology to compete until then, so QB or whatever race he is a part of, has determined what is "right" because until then, they are superior and will do the decision making. Quote:
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2011-03-03, 21:25 | Link #92 | |
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2011-03-03, 21:29 | Link #94 |
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I feel like everybody is glossing over a line of Kyuubey's that I found very telling. He says "There are six-billion-nine-hundred-million of you right now and your population is growing by ten every four seconds. So why do you make such a big fuss over the loss of just one of you?" To us as humans, the loss of an individual we knew and cared about is very heart-wrenching but to Kyuubey it's just one of billions.
If any of you have read the Ender's Game series Kyuubey reminds me a lot of the Hive Queen. Her species has a shared consciousness between one queen and thousands or more workers. The workers have no mind of their own, they're just glorified appendages of the queen. Maybe Kyuubey's race is the same way. His body is clearly expendable as we saw last episode. So while we're treating the death of magical girls as a huge tragedy Kyuubey sees it as no more sorrowful an event than we see scratching off dead skin as. The population is growing faster than the girls are dying, and we can generate sustainable energy for the universe. When only the population as a whole matters and the individual is expendable then what Kyuubey is doing is completely justified. That said, I don't totally buy it when he says they don't understand human emotions or values. Obviously he has some idea of what makes humans tick because he is quite adept at manipulating humans. Now it's entirely possible that his mental communication is like the hive queen's in that he has an idea in his head and he sends it to a human and the human fills that in with what is familiar to her. He wants to convey the happiness and glory that comes with being a magical girl and the humans interpret that as they will. He's unable to lie because he always says what he's thinking. It's just that he only "throws" the thoughts he chooses to throw. There's no lying, only imperfect exchange of information.
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2011-03-03, 21:38 | Link #96 |
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Combating entropy. Lol. What an incredibly silly reason, and yet, one could reasonably argue that hypothetically there are some aliens out there that can transcend "normal" time to the point that they might actually stick around till the theoretical heat death of the universe, and thus might actually think it a problem worth solving.
Of course, this means absolutely nothing to humanity. We'll have been long gone before it ever occurs, assuming it does. Anyways, looks like Kyoko decided she didn't want to "live" any longer. Good to see she was able to choose her way out, in a way that didn't involve her turning into a witch. She and Sayaka will be missed. And, while I personally don't believe in the afterlife, I think in the context of the world portrayed in this show, we can pretend she and Sayaka will spend their afterlife together. Now, the BIG question of the episode: What is up with Homura's powers/shield? It now has been shown that she CAN stop time for far longer than a few seconds, which was the previous limit implied by her frantic attempt to catch up with that truck. The difference this time was that she "used" her shield. I suppose it's possible she "used" her shield for all those time stops before, but I'm gonna assume not, which is why there's the difference in the length of time she's able to stop. Plus, the whole setup for that scene just screamed that it was something different from her normal modus operandi. I mean, really, it all comes back to who or what exactly Homura is. They didn't give her the odd-man out soul gem coloration on a whim, me thinks. I get a bad vibe about the shield, as if there's a limit on how often she can use it, which is why she doesn't use it all the time. And, while this probably should have been said last episode, I totally do not get why Homura was unable to time stop when wrapped in ribbons or a hold by Kyoko. Anyways, with three episodes left, it's getting really lonely here with only Homura and Madoka left standing. I imagine two episodes will be the BIG END BATTLE, so that leaves next episode for...well, I'm not even sure. Best line of the entire series to date: "If you feel like dying for this universe, just call us. We'll be waiting!" That QB is so cute. Edit: What in the world is up with Sayaka's parents? I assume they are who Madoka talked to on the intercom in an earlier episode when she was looking for Sayaka. Whoever it was, they didn't seem very concerned that Sayaka hadn't come home "last night". Now, in this episode, Sayaka is dead, but business like usual at school. No mention of her missing (which would probably be the logical conclusion of normal parents) or anything. I mean, what the hell. :/ Last edited by creb; 2011-03-03 at 21:49. |
2011-03-03, 21:46 | Link #97 |
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noooo Kyoko, it was cute watching you eat.
Sayaka kind of beat her up really easily...but it seems like Kyoko wasn't really trying to beat her. And Kyoko wanted to go out on her own terms instead of eventually turning into a witch or getting killed directly by one. Kyubei as most expected, is 'evil' as far as humans are concerned.wi Madoka's wish: Kyubei: What's your wish? Madoka: I wish...that you had a heart. Kyubei: *tear rolls down cheek* *Kyubei explodes*
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2011-03-03, 21:47 | Link #98 |
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Heh Bokurano reference with the chairs.
Kyubei's script seems to have a problem. He knows that explaining the soulgem and puppet body would turn most off. The definition of lying is "To convey a false image or impression". By not giving full information, he would fufil the conditions of the definition hence his statement "we do not know what is lying" would then be false unless their translation devices does not include the dictionary definition of lying. As a side note, Kyubei realy should take over a tv station, explain everything and see who think's it's a good idea to die so they can volunteer as their life is worth about 1 in 6 billion. Surely those who agree with him would be first in line? Episode itself: What do wheels have to do with witch Sayaka. Kyoko really fufilled her death flag. Homura using a pink soul gem: Homura=Madoka++, Homura holding Madoka's gem++. It may end up as the way for Madoka to access MS power without using a wish |
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2011-03-03, 21:49 | Link #100 |
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You mean Energizer batteries. Or the human batteries in The Matrix. Or...
I'm reminded of the reason why the Aztecs were conducting human sacrifices for the sun god: they did so out of the fear that if they stop performing their bloody ritual, they would face certain catastrophe once the sun does not move. http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehisto...cacrifice.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_s..._Aztec_culture http://atheism.about.com/od/aztecgod...atiuhAztec.htm So, in a sense, QB was doing all this manipulation and chicanery, making girls into MGs, which in turn (should they fail in their role) may become Witches, and in this cycle of killing between MGs and Witches it ensured him a supply of Grief Seeds for him to consume and to keep the universe in balance.
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