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Albert · 2004-10-17, 13:38

Episode 2 VERY COOL...
This encourages is walking to be my favorite one!

UssoKK · 2004-10-17, 19:52

Something that caught me off gaurd about episode 1:
Albert went very quickly from being a polite, kind-hearted, nice kid to a promiscoius playboy in a second.

Spoiler:

seemed like a total disconnect from the boy before.

I guess it shows us that even nice teenagers (Aren't Franz + Albert like 15 or 16 0_o) can fall to a wild lifestyle, seeing how he and his friends have the whole world open to them. That and he needed some cheering up, but he still seemed to young and gentle for that kind of....activity

Oh well, I still like him. GONZO seems to make great main characters- I can personally relate to Claus from Last Exile and Albert (and Franz to a degree).

OshadowO · 2004-10-17, 20:03

WOw this is a super cool anime. I really like the presentation. The look is so surreal.
Now to the people who are pissed off that the original story was changed, well jeez, why not go pick up a hollywood made movie or some other adaption that is faithful? Why keep bashing this one. It might be a good anime on its own merits (and so far it seems like it is). Its not the first time story tellers have taken license with classic works and changed the story (Lord of the rings anyone).

Chill guys, its a pretty good anime so far.

Pandora · 2004-10-19, 07:35

Hi, just want to ask your opinion on which Gankutsuou fansub is the best. I got the Anime-Keep version for ep 1. But since Death Squad is the only group to have subbed ep 2 so far, I want to ask if they are good or not. Thanks!

fierysky · 2004-10-19, 18:42

Well, it mostly depends on taste. I've downloaded all 3 version of Gankutsuou (A-Keep, DeathSquad and A-Kraze) released and I liked Anime-kraze's version the best. Anime-kraze has sharper visuals and the color is more viberant. Though quality of their video is better, they are also the slowest subber out of the three.

As for translations, all three are similar except with differences in wording. The main idea is basically the same though. How close is each sub to the original dialouge I'm not sure since my Japanese is very poor.

If you are a person who likes larger subtitles, Death Squad probably isn't for you; their subtitles are small. The other two has bigger subtitles.

My suggestion is, download all three and pick one that you like the best. If you are one of those who can't wait for the next episode to come out, then download which ever comes out first. Or you can always wait for the fansub gruop you like to release their version.

DrewGSR · 2004-10-20, 04:39

Just finished watching episode 2, this episode is looking to be better then i thought i was going to be. Looking forward to episode 3. I'm sticking with A-Keeps subs because I have gone with AKeep through so many anime shows and have felt they ahve done a good job and enjoy there subs.

Spoiler:

FlyByNite · 2004-10-20, 19:05

So watching ep 2, is it just me or does anyone else find their gaze drawn to the transparent hair/wigs or moving clothing and it make you miss stuff during scenes?

Spoiler:

shiznitty · 2004-10-20, 22:54

you mean girl :P

Budweineken · 2004-10-21, 01:09

For the people who have seen the movie or are familiar with the story... (i have only seen the most recent one)

Spoiler:

philupthetank86 · 2004-10-21, 01:24

i saw the count of monte cristo, and i dont remember him being a vampire.

oh well.

this anime is awesome

BeNighted · 2004-10-21, 03:37

I just finished watching Gankutsuou 1-2 and I'm really impressed! I had no idea what to expect, other than a headache from the weird visuals.. but now that I've taken the time to watch both of them, I couldn't be more excited about the prospects of this anime

Monte Cristo was an excellent character.. charismatic, dark, vampiric. I could see him making all the other characters seem dull, because he shines much more than they do. Did I mention he's badass?

The only thing I didn't like was the OP. It just didn't really strike me as a good song, which is a shame, because the rest of the series has had excellent music so far.

I'm sticking with the anime for sure. I have no idea how many episodes it's supposed to be though, but with this level of animation, I couldn't see it being 26 and staying consistent. Gonzo have done it again

7thMethuselah · 2004-10-26, 15:50

Indeed, gankutsuou offers rather amazing, if unconventional graphics, took a few minutes to get used too but beautiful nonetheless. The dark, mysterious, slightly gothic atmosphere does draw you in from the very first minute.

The count himself is a very interesting character who's charisma instantly appeals to our young baron

I don't think I've ever read the book so the story does have me intrigued. It seemed to me though that the Count had set up the entire abduction scenario just to get a connection to get to Paris although that fact seemed wrong at the end of ep 2 .

Oh , a nice touch, when we get the view of earth and the moon at the end, the moon looks just like a skull, cool

DrewGSR · 2004-10-27, 04:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by philupthetank86

i saw the count of monte cristo, and i dont remember him being a vampire.

I dunno if your being serious or not but NO he isn't or was a vampire in the Count of Monte Cristo movie or novel. This is simply just a adaptation of the novel/movie but with a twist, though they did hack or skip out some parts. It takes place in the future, all sci fi, in outer space and he is a not human in the anime. Overall I'm liking and enjoying this show since I liked both the novel and movie.

BigFire · 2004-10-27, 07:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thMethuselah

Indeed, gankutsuou offers rather amazing, if unconventional graphics, took a few minutes to get used too but beautiful nonetheless. The dark, mysterious, slightly gothic atmosphere does draw you in from the very first minute.

The count himself is a very interesting character who's charisma instantly appeals to our young baron

I don't think I've ever read the book so the story does have me intrigued. It seemed to me though that the Count had set up the entire abduction scenario just to get a connection to get to Paris although that fact seemed wrong at the end of ep 2 .

Oh , a nice touch, when we get the view of earth and the moon at the end, the moon looks just like a skull, cool

1. Albert is a Viscount (being the son of a Count).

Dagger · 2004-10-27, 08:30

Disclaimer: I haven't read the novel.

IMO Franz is a much, much more sympathetic character than Albert (at least, that's what I thought after watching episode 2). He just seems more loyal and reliable, whereas Albert comes across as being rather naive, fickle and immature. I think it's interesting to have a flawed main character, but I feel pretty bad for Franz. Chances are he'll be forced to pick up the pieces whenever Albert screws up.

Kimblee · 2004-10-27, 08:57

Ep 3 was interesting.

Spoiler:

glyph · 2004-10-27, 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimblee

Ep 3 was interesting.

Spoiler:

His body looks heavily augmented with alien tech. When Vampa stabs the Count in the arm? in episode 2, the blade comes out coated with clear fluid instead of red blood. Also, his present alien appearance bears some resemblance to Haydee's(who appears briefly in episode 1).
In episode 3, we find out that Earth and her planets are at war with an alien empire, which apparently takes the place of the Ottoman Empire in this adaptation. Monte Cristo also admits to having traveled within the Empire.

Spoiler for book:

P.S. Just watched the ED in its entirety for the first time. Wow, it defines seizure-inducing. Fantastic.

ato · 2004-10-27, 15:25

Spoiler for Episode 3:

But, damn, that Count is such a badass - Few people in litterature are so obsessed with revenge as he is, and even work out the revenge in the excruciating detail he does

auriya · 2004-10-27, 18:26

Gankutsuou amazed me.

At first, looking at screencaps, I wasn't sure that I'd like the unusual animation style. But seeing it in motion...wow! Dizzying, and yet very lovely--and, of course, unique. Sometimes it almost reminded me of a Klimt painting.

Also, the plot and character development are wonderful. I have never read the novel, though I know the basics of the story, so I don't mind the alterations at all. I like the way they've made the setting sci-fi without losing all the historical elements; for example, the Count has a horse-drawn carriage, but the horses are robotic.

And I think I'm one of the few people who actually likes the OP. Though maybe that's just because I'm in love with this show in general for the moment.

SidSavage · 2004-10-27, 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by glyph

His body looks heavily augmented with alien tech. When Vampa stabs the Count in the arm? in episode 2, the blade comes out coated with clear fluid instead of red blood. Also, his present alien appearance bears some resemblance to Haydee's(who appears briefly in episode 1).
In episode 3, we find out that Earth and her planets are at war with an alien empire, which apparently takes the place of the Ottoman Empire in this adaptation. Monte Cristo also admits to having traveled within the Empire.

Spoiler for book:

P.S. Just watched the ED in its entirety for the first time. Wow, it defines seizure-inducing. Fantastic.

Spoiler:

I'm still not too keen on the Count being some sort of vampire. I think it's kind of overblown, especially when he made his enterence.

I could also never picture Maximilian as some sort of hulk. At least they kept the romance aspects in place for now.

2004-10-17, 19:52	Link #162
UssoKK Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Houston Age: 35	Something that caught me off gaurd about episode 1: Albert went very quickly from being a polite, kind-hearted, nice kid to a promiscoius playboy in a second. Spoiler: I though Franz was joking when he said "It's all below the waist for you", but seeing seeing him get ready to calmly sleep with that girl seemed like a total disconnect from the boy before. I guess it shows us that even nice teenagers (Aren't Franz + Albert like 15 or 16 0_o) can fall to a wild lifestyle, seeing how he and his friends have the whole world open to them. That and he needed some cheering up, but he still seemed to young and gentle for that kind of....activity Oh well, I still like him. GONZO seems to make great main characters- I can personally relate to Claus from Last Exile and Albert (and Franz to a degree).

2004-10-19, 07:35	Link #164
Pandora Poisoned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Where indeed...	Which Gankutsuou fansub do you recommend? Hi, just want to ask your opinion on which Gankutsuou fansub is the best. I got the Anime-Keep version for ep 1. But since Death Squad is the only group to have subbed ep 2 so far, I want to ask if they are good or not. Thanks! Last edited by Keitaro; 2004-10-19 at 21:38. Reason: Merged thread

2004-10-20, 04:39	Link #166
DrewGSR Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004	Just finished watching episode 2, this episode is looking to be better then i thought i was going to be. Looking forward to episode 3. I'm sticking with A-Keeps subs because I have gone with AKeep through so many anime shows and have felt they ahve done a good job and enjoy there subs. Spoiler: I thought it was cool how the Counts head glowed when he was going to kill that guy. I was so suprised when the Count told Albert that the girl was really a guy lol, I really didn't see any sign or anything that she was really a guy lol.

2004-10-20, 19:05	Link #167
FlyByNite Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003	So watching ep 2, is it just me or does anyone else find their gaze drawn to the transparent hair/wigs or moving clothing and it make you miss stuff during scenes? Spoiler: Peppo/Beppo whatever may be a guy, but damn he's one hot looking girl...

2004-10-21, 01:09	Link #169
Budweineken Crap Join Date: May 2004 Age: 40	For the people who have seen the movie or are familiar with the story... (i have only seen the most recent one) Spoiler: Since the Count of Monte Cristo has already appeared... does it mean that the person posing as him has already been betrayed and he is already out for revenge?? Apparently he is after Albert... i saw the movie a while ago so i might be mixing some stuff up... and i also know this is not a direct retelling of the story, it has some modifications, i just want to know what you think...

2004-10-17, 13:38	Link #161
Albert Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004	Episode 2 VERY COOL... This encourages is walking to be my favorite one!

2004-10-17, 20:03	Link #163
OshadowO Member Join Date: Mar 2004	WOw this is a super cool anime. I really like the presentation. The look is so surreal. Now to the people who are pissed off that the original story was changed, well jeez, why not go pick up a hollywood made movie or some other adaption that is faithful? Why keep bashing this one. It might be a good anime on its own merits (and so far it seems like it is). Its not the first time story tellers have taken license with classic works and changed the story (Lord of the rings anyone). Chill guys, its a pretty good anime so far.

2004-10-19, 18:42	Link #165
fierysky Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004	Well, it mostly depends on taste. I've downloaded all 3 version of Gankutsuou (A-Keep, DeathSquad and A-Kraze) released and I liked Anime-kraze's version the best. Anime-kraze has sharper visuals and the color is more viberant. Though quality of their video is better, they are also the slowest subber out of the three. As for translations, all three are similar except with differences in wording. The main idea is basically the same though. How close is each sub to the original dialouge I'm not sure since my Japanese is very poor. If you are a person who likes larger subtitles, Death Squad probably isn't for you; their subtitles are small. The other two has bigger subtitles. My suggestion is, download all three and pick one that you like the best. If you are one of those who can't wait for the next episode to come out, then download which ever comes out first. Or you can always wait for the fansub gruop you like to release their version.

2004-10-20, 22:54	Link #168
shiznitty Member Join Date: Nov 2003	you mean girl :P

2004-10-21, 01:24	Link #170
philupthetank86 Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: tehachapi, CA usa Age: 37	i saw the count of monte cristo, and i dont remember him being a vampire. oh well. this anime is awesome

2004-10-21, 03:37	Link #171
BeNighted To Bid You Farewell Join Date: Oct 2004	I just finished watching Gankutsuou 1-2 and I'm really impressed! I had no idea what to expect, other than a headache from the weird visuals.. but now that I've taken the time to watch both of them, I couldn't be more excited about the prospects of this anime Monte Cristo was an excellent character.. charismatic, dark, vampiric. I could see him making all the other characters seem dull, because he shines much more than they do. Did I mention he's badass? The only thing I didn't like was the OP. It just didn't really strike me as a good song, which is a shame, because the rest of the series has had excellent music so far. I'm sticking with the anime for sure. I have no idea how many episodes it's supposed to be though, but with this level of animation, I couldn't see it being 26 and staying consistent. Gonzo have done it again

2004-10-26, 15:50	Link #172
7thMethuselah Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Antwerp area, Belgium, Europa Age: 48	Indeed, gankutsuou offers rather amazing, if unconventional graphics, took a few minutes to get used too but beautiful nonetheless. The dark, mysterious, slightly gothic atmosphere does draw you in from the very first minute. The count himself is a very interesting character who's charisma instantly appeals to our young baron I don't think I've ever read the book so the story does have me intrigued. It seemed to me though that the Count had set up the entire abduction scenario just to get a connection to get to Paris although that fact seemed wrong at the end of ep 2 . Oh , a nice touch, when we get the view of earth and the moon at the end, the moon looks just like a skull, cool

2004-10-27, 08:30	Link #175
Dagger Nitro+ fan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hyogo	Disclaimer: I haven't read the novel. IMO Franz is a much, much more sympathetic character than Albert (at least, that's what I thought after watching episode 2). He just seems more loyal and reliable, whereas Albert comes across as being rather naive, fickle and immature. I think it's interesting to have a flawed main character, but I feel pretty bad for Franz. Chances are he'll be forced to pick up the pieces whenever Albert screws up.

2004-10-27, 08:57	Link #176
Kimblee Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004	Ep 3 was interesting. Spoiler: So I guess it's safe to say the count is not human, eh? I suppose he probably was at one point, he looks pretty human on the horse in the opening. I do wonder if Albert's mom recognises him or not, they didn't really show it. Next episode I suppose.

2004-10-27, 15:25	Link #178
ato Oups... Join Date: Jan 2003	Spoiler for Episode 3: Hmhm, interestingly, the good Count also alludes to several other domains in the areas around the Empire of Man (or whatever it's name might be ). I fully agree in the opinion that he has modified his body extensively in order to be able to execute his plan with maximum efficiency. Most likely, "vampirism" related effects we have seen are effects of this, as well as the stealth abilities exhibited at the end of Ep. 3. It will be very interesting to see how Gonzo choses to relate the past relationship between the Count and Albert's mother. The number of interesting roles were also upped quite considerably in this episode, and the prespect of seeing them all interact and dance to the Count's tunes kinda gives me a wonderful, tingly feeling, hehe! But, damn, that Count is such a badass - Few people in litterature are so obsessed with revenge as he is, and even work out the revenge in the excruciating detail he does

2004-10-27, 18:26	Link #179
auriya Member Join Date: Jul 2004	Gankutsuou amazed me. At first, looking at screencaps, I wasn't sure that I'd like the unusual animation style. But seeing it in motion...wow! Dizzying, and yet very lovely--and, of course, unique. Sometimes it almost reminded me of a Klimt painting. Also, the plot and character development are wonderful. I have never read the novel, though I know the basics of the story, so I don't mind the alterations at all. I like the way they've made the setting sci-fi without losing all the historical elements; for example, the Count has a horse-drawn carriage, but the horses are robotic. And I think I'm one of the few people who actually likes the OP. Though maybe that's just because I'm in love with this show in general for the moment.