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You know I think trying to critique Reki's actions here is like trying to critique a Space Marine's or hardcore assassin's (at best) actions. She's generally emotionless due to the Irokane and is loyal only to her clan.
So I think trying to criticize her is a bit I dunno....pointless? She does what she does and that's it.
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2011-06-10, 00:51 | Link #1282 |
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I interpret this as "since you are determined to return to England, I had better not create any opportunities for you to regret your decision". In other words, it is a form of 'I want my beloved to be happy' even though Kinji is in deep denial about it. As you have noted, he is playing the double tsundere act with Aria, so this should not be surprising. Unfortunately for him, as later volumes will show, it will be impossible for him to prevent "having any memories" with her.
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Isn't it Aria's fault for misunderstanding without hearing the other parties explanation? Spoiler for Volume 6, chapter 2:
Reki never had her own thoughts to begin with, until Kinji initiated his humanization plan. Her behavior is akin to that of a samurai, who is always vigilant. Just as Aria was about to strike Kinji in a fit of anger, Reki came between them and slapped Aria. In doing so, Reki protected Kinji from being hit and made herself the target for Aria's anger. The past Reki would have done anything the [Wind] ordered, but the present Reki has a bit of emotions, so it will be different since she has an attachment to Kinji now and probably knows better. Reki would not harm Kinji anymore, since she swore fealty to him already...there's no point bring these "what if's" into the argument. Aria was earlier defeated by her underclassmen Koko in aru=kata and felt frustrated about that loss, so now her temper is shorter than before. However, her anger is still completely unreasonable because she wants to take it out on Reki instead. Generally, most snipers cannot use close range combat and Aria still attacked her regardless of that fact. Reki the samurai that she is, interpreted Aria's aggression as danger for both Kinji and herself. Reki merely did what she thought was the correct course of action. It's like the tradition of [pillage wife], read volume 7 for more details. Reki at the time did not have emotions, so how could she have a friend? Wouldn't you need emotions to consider someone a friend? She wouldn't understand what its like being treated like friend....Reki's mind is that of a child's. Reki's isn't that skilled at reading people's emotions. Kinji was chosen because he was undeniably strong in his first year. Reki probably scouted him out and began her intelligence gatherings from there. The [Wind] could have said to pick Kinji due to Reki's high assessments of Assault department Kinji. If Aria truly wants to keep Kinji as her partner, then she should start treating him better. Ironically, those comic relief scenarios where Aria is firing bullets on Kinji, is not very enjoyable to Kinji, although the audience finds it entertaining. That large passage from the light novel explains it all. Why Kinji is giving the cold shoulder and other stuff. Spoiler for Volume 6, chapter 2:
Kinji's promise to Aria to be partners was only valid until they defeated EU and freed Kanae-san (Aria's mother). Kinji probably thought that it would take them until the end of the year to finish, but it didn't. The initial promise was to stay as Aria's partner until they defeated EU and freed Kanae-san, Kinji made that promise sincerely after understanding Aria's situation, nevertheless Kinji stayed as partners even after the "Butei Killer" case due to his will and not because of his promise. Spoiler for Volume 5, chapter 5:
The fallout that happened in Volume 6 did not happen because Kinji didn't keep his promise, but rather it was due to Aria's jealousy and misunderstanding that escalated into a confrontation between her and Reki. Kinji kept true to his promise. @Glacierfairy I agree. Kinji's trying to help her out in his own way. P.S. I strongly advise that you wait until volume 7 is fully translated, it will surely answer your questions. Last edited by Hiro Hayase; 2011-06-10 at 02:28. |
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It's not like this is the first time, he knows damn well what kind of girl Aria is, yet he risked it all to bring her back into his life again, and only now he suddenly remembered she's this kind of person? Can't he decide once and for all whether he wants her or not? If he wants her to stay then live with it! If he wants her out of his life don't go chasing after her! Don't go doing things half way and just leave her when things get a little too dicey! If you don't like how things are then changed her! Don't just complain about it! Quote:
She not some innocent little girl caught up in all this only trying to protect Kinji. She the reason for all this crap to begin with. Aria might have misunderstood the situation, but Hell if Reki didn't continue to push her in that general direction. (The bottom half is pretty much the same response as the upper half of my reply to your post so I'll cut it short)
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2011-06-10, 04:39 | Link #1288 | |
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That pretty much explains Reki's motivations and background a bit. Spoiler for Volume 6, Chapter 2:
It seemed more like a spontaneous burst of anger to me. Kinji isn't perfect, he has his flaws just like any other person, and Aria has her flaws too. Like I said before, When your extremely angry at another person, you are not thinking at all. Anger is an emotion that just consumes you with rage, until you burn out. Majority of people who lash out at other people when angry are regretful when they calm down. That's basically what Kinji was doing. Spoiler for Volume 6, Chapter 2:
Here Kinji realizes that he made the mistake of pouring more oil to a fire. I repeat this again if Aria truly wants to keep Kinji as her partner, then she should treat him better. If Aria liked him, then she could have confessed earlier. Plus, take into consideration that Kinji was in a "Sniper Restriction" by Reki. There is too many factors involved to shift the blame towards one person. Kinji could have acted differently, Reki could have acted differently, Aria could acted differently, and Riko too instead just egging them on. It seemed like everyone there lost their cool a bit in that scene, except Riko. Kinji, Reki, Aria all share responsibility. If even one of them could be honest and listened to the other's explanations or situations, the confrontation could have been avoided. Spoiler for Volume 6, chapter 2:
Here, Aria was on the verge of striking Kinji because of what he said. Reki slapped Aria in order to protect Kinji. Spoiler for Volume 6, chapter 1:
Reki was merely being true to her words "A bride does everything her lord wishes. I vow that my bullets will seek vengeance upon all those nearby who wish to harm my lord. I will eradicate them, not leaving a trace." Aria was about to harm her lord/husband, so tried to eradicate her completely. Although in the present, Kinji forbade any further killing and to stick to Butei law to Reki. So now she usually asks Kinji if its okay to kill whenever in a crisis. Also, Kinji finds Reki's easier to handle than Aria because she actually listens to him, except when his life is in danger. Spoiler for Spoilers from volume 7:
P.S. Your words are steadily becoming more heated. Also, your dislike of Reki and Kinji is slowly sipping into your words, try to be more neutral. Hate the action, but never the character. Last edited by Hiro Hayase; 2011-06-10 at 04:51. |
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2011-06-10, 05:53 | Link #1289 |
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You said it was the fault of Reki but if the person whom you love, or you have decided to marry has a romantic moment with another person, would you stay quiet. I would not, at the very last I would Interrupt them.
Reki is the first character that it said. "Please marry me". In Vol 4. Are you talking about the bet, that was him in Histeria Mode, he doesnt have control of most things, that he does or says in Histeria Mode. Unless he means it, he doesnt take responsibility for most of the things he says in HM and neither Aria or Kinji took for serious the promise of that time. |
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This isn't the first time; Every time the two of them gets into a heated argument, Kinji either lashes out back at Aria, hitting her soft spot like her trust issues, their partnership and I think even her mother, or he continues to hide his secrets, be it the HSS or Kana. But you know what really ticks me off? In the end they would somehow make up and it's all fine till the next volume. Now why does this bother me even more than the previous ones? Because of that thing that happened in the Vostok- It was nice, it was sweet, it was almost an end-gamer, and it meant nothing. Their relationship doesn't seem to be getting anywhere. All that business with EU, Patra and Sherlock, all meaningless. Nothing has changed, Kinji is still the same, Aria is still the same. In fact, this volume reminds me of Shiraiyuki's... Quote:
I've already mentioned how I'm annoyed that their relationship never improved, but another reason why I'm raging about Kinji's action in this volume is that he never saw himself as part of the problem to blame, that means no regret- Sure he realized it's a mistake, but he certainly isn't beating himself up about it. And worse still is him trying to justify what he had said to Aria was for her own good.
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Now, I understand slightly more. Potato is fries, rather than an actual potato. I assume Riko is saying something akin to, "Would you like fries with that," in English. One of the people who answered said: "Isn't it because there were no menus in the past? Now, if you don't say that you just want a burger, it's automatically served as a menu." However, as far as I know, 「ご一緒にいかがですか?」 is also used normally, with the aforementioned connotation. Might be tricky to translate.
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That's grammatically incorrect.
'Would you like fries with that?' is a question asking, in the event of receiving fries with that, would you like it? 'Would you want fries with that?" is a question asking, in the event of receiving fries with that, would you want it? Which one makes sense.
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2011-06-10, 08:33 | Link #1294 | |
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Would you like fries with that? Yeah, Ok. *receives fires* Would you want fries with that? Sure. *Receives fries* Both are practically the same with the same effect in the end are they not?
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2011-06-10, 09:32 | Link #1295 |
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In vol 4 he has never said I will always be your partner, he said until we resolve the matter with EU.
Then youre misdirecting your anger. You should know that the love between Aria and Kinji isnt simple and it wont come to pass under certain circunstances. Kinji is in a dificult spot, he has been hurt by women which gives him enough reasons to hide Histeria Savant Sindrome. He is higly valued by everyone, yet he feels that the one that thay value is he in HM and that is not him. And his desire of stop being a Butei is strong, because he doesnt want to end in a possible way like that in which his brother supposedly died. And doesnt want to be forced in a situation where he has to kill someone. Hes afraid after all his own brother has already proposed the Idea of kill. Giving the possibility of him becoming something that he doesnt want to be. Aria, in the world there is a few people capable of being with her. Everyone else is weak, and the few have their own objectives. She is always isolated by her sense of justice and her own goals. She has been hurt by her own family, making this a dificult situation for her to actually trust someone, and because of her own fear of being alone she always draws the worst conclusion thus creating bad misunderstandings. And to top it all she is a Noble, making it all the more difficult for her to be able to stay with someone of her own free will. There are more but I dislike writing much. Yet these are the principal points. You could say when Kinji was going to tell her about HSS was a huge step. |
2011-06-10, 12:05 | Link #1297 |
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Returning to Butei High in the night….
After the Masters ensured that there were no severely wounded casualties, they quickly split us up by subject and distributed debriefing records. Disgusting. Let us rest a bit first. At least allow us a bowl of katsudon. Aria was taken by the Assault instructor Ranbyou to the principal’s office. Riko and I were Inquesta while Mutou was of Logi; we were all interviewed by our respective instructors. After that, the Masters got into contact with the Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department, the media and the JR. I thought we would be castigated for cutting the Shinkansen however with the capture of the perpetrators, this did not happen. Could someone help me start chap 4 on the BT page with those words? No idea how to open a new chapter....
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We could use a better term for "throughout" here in the above sentence like 'all the time' or 'everywhere' or 'from beginning to end'. Which one of those following terms make more sense in context of what Kinji is saying, instead of 'throughout'. @Cosmic Eagle Did you pm Hikari?She's currently translating chapter 2 as we speak. If not then I can ask Teh_ping to create a new page for you or ask how to create one. Last edited by Hiro Hayase; 2011-06-10 at 15:47. |
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