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creb · 2011-10-17, 01:10

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Originally Posted by casval cehack

It is good to see that the high-quality system UI (with working data) that started in 00 is also in AGE, with a unique icons style. Didn't notice that in the gundaminfo stream.

Did you see the social security number? There are an awful lot of humans in this setting.

monster · 2011-10-17, 01:25

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Originally Posted by kakakka

Yeah, they might suspect him a bit. But kicking the ass of that guy who's willing to abandon the people of Nora, they might be not view Grodeck as a bad guy.

Well, I suppose it depends on who they are. It also depends on whether Grodek has any proof that the captain was willing to abandon the civillians. This is where Emily and Dique might be able to help. Although, now that I think about it some more, it's possible that the higher ups might not event count the teens' testimony (if it comes down to that) as valid seeing as how they are civillian who were not supposed to be there in the first place.

Kuroi Hadou · 2011-10-17, 01:29

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Originally Posted by monster

Although, now that I think about it some more, it's possible that the higher ups might not event count the teens' testimony (if it comes down to that) as valid seeing as how they are civillian who were not supposed to be there in the first place.

Not to mention the fact that, you know, they're teens.

monster · 2011-10-17, 01:33

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Originally Posted by Kuroi Hadou

Not to mention the fact that, you know, they're teens.

Well, I don't think that would matter much. That's why I actually said teens instead of kids (which is what I originally typed). Teens could still make valid witnesses, as long as their characters prove to be trustworthy. That's why the fact that they sneaked in to the place might be damning for their characters and validity as witnesses.

cyberdemon · 2011-10-17, 01:39

why do i get the feeling that this new girl Yurin is actually the pilot of the UE suit defeated in the first episode?

Patriot's Blade · 2011-10-17, 01:41

am i the only one here who thinks that the AGE builder system reminds me of the G-System from Gundam True Odyssey?

Rising Dragon · 2011-10-17, 01:44

I'm pretty certain that Yurin isn't the downed Gafran's pilot. I think someone would've noticed if a human climbed out of the Gafran, especially if it was a little girl. I wouldn't be surprised if she is connected to the UE... but the pilot of the defeated Gafran? Doubtful.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2011-10-17, 02:04

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Originally Posted by cyberdemon

why do i get the feeling that this new girl Yurin is actually the pilot of the UE suit defeated in the first episode?

One major flaw in that feeling of yours. The only known Gafran to be defeated was blown to pieces by one of its own.

cyberdemon · 2011-10-17, 02:09

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Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

One major flaw in that feeling of yours. The only known Gafran to be defeated was blown to pieces by one of its own.

She could've escaped from it beforehand knowing that they would destroy the suit to keep the technology away from enemy hands. Without being seen could be difficult but they could have their own means. she does seem to have special powers.

Kuroi Hadou · 2011-10-17, 02:11

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Originally Posted by cyberdemon

She could've escaped from it beforehand knowing that they would destroy the suit to keep the technology away from enemy hands. Without being seen could be difficult but they could have their own means. she does seem to have special powers.

When did she have time to escape?

LoweGear · 2011-10-17, 02:16

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Originally Posted by cyberdemon

She could've escaped from it beforehand knowing that they would destroy the suit to keep the technology away from enemy hands. Without being seen could be difficult but they could have their own means. she does seem to have special powers.

Considering all the monitoring systems in place that were observing the battle (Flit, the Central Command etc... ), you'd think they'd notice if a pilot was dragging themselves out of the Gafran before it gets destroyed.

I also would think that any pilots operating in an organization with a policy of "leave no evidence" would not want to present themselves as such evidence by leaving the mech, and would rather choose to destroy themselves with the mech. (This of course depends on the degree of indoctrination and fanaticism on the pilot's part). Even if they did choose to escape, you'd think the UE with all their advanced tech would notice and would simply kill the escaping pilot to complete their evidence destruction.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2011-10-17, 02:23

This is all assuming the UE are piloted by anyone.

SonicSP · 2011-10-17, 02:29

Here's a theory. How about if the UE's presence in Nora is actually to find and capture her in the first place for some reason? That lady from Diva did say that it was weird that the UE chose to destroy the colony in a particular way rather than quick kill with the energy factory destruction. They could be after something, and that she may be it. Of course it may be something se entirely and it would be a bit weird because the UE have a specific attack pattern.

Just throwing out a random thought.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2011-10-17, 02:33

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Originally Posted by SonicSP

Here's a theory. How about if the UE's presence in Nora is actually to find and capture her in the first place for some reason? That lady from Diva did say that it was weird that the UE chose to destroy the colony in a particular way rather than quick kill with the energy factory destruction. They could be after something, and that she may be it. Of course it may be something se entirely and it would be a bit weird because the UE have a specific attack pattern.

Just throwing out a random thought.

I noticed that too. My theory is that the UE wanted to bring out the Gundam.

tsunade666 · 2011-10-17, 03:01

They did do a scan look alike in episode 1. They might know that a gundam was being constructed in that colony like in the previews series. And since they knew it they might be interested on it's technology.

And Yuurin might be some issues on big mobile suite. Aside that Flit might scare her when he was getting near her without using speakers to communicate with her. She might be hiding something... well like she's in a run from something?

RedWing · 2011-10-17, 03:07

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Originally Posted by JMvS

Actually, as the example of child soldier has demonstrated, a properly formatted youngster will typically display less inhibitions than their elders.

As far as I am aware Flit has undergone no military training, battle simulations or anything of the sort. He's an engineer at best and moreso he is a civilian. He goes to school, plays with his school friends and uses his intelligence to help engineer. He isn't a hardened child soldier or anything of the sort.

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Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

Welcome to Vietnam, where children that older than 10 have to running around with an AK47, or Japan, where children at 13 has to experience the feeling of kill or be killed with their own sword.

Did that situation look ANYTHING like Vietnam? Or did it look more like a cosy modern society? This isn't Gundam 00, AGE has yet to qualify anything of an excuse for it's child piloting weapons of mass destruction.

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Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

You're nitpicking that element? I question whether or not you're an actual Gundam fan. Because...if you're complaining about young kids in circumstances such as war and stuff, then...you might as well just leave the fandom.

Wing, child soldiers. Seed, Kira is visibly distressed by his role in battle and has superhuman abilities. 00, child Soldiers/adults/superhuman. AGE refuses to take one of these elements and rather goes back to the old age jump in the mobile suit day 1 and pilot it for the rest of your life. It doesn't work without some sort of qualifier as to where they got the ability from. Ask a Fighter pilot designer/engineer if he can pilot his own creation.

The AGE Gundam hits space this episode and the change to a zero gravity fighting environment doesn't faze Flit 1 bit. When he kills the enemy there is no realisation or questioning of whether there is a person piloting. My suspension of disbelief covers Mobile suits, colonies and their associated technologies. It isn't an excuse for BS characters.

monster · 2011-10-17, 03:08

Frankly, Yurin handled it a lot better than can be expected for someone who had a beam weapon fire in her direction.

StrikeFreedomV2 · 2011-10-17, 03:09

So far, SonicSP's theory makes the most sense to me. I doubt she was the Gafran's pilot, that thing got blown up and if she were inside or just climbing out, she would had sustained a injury or least some bruises.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2011-10-17, 03:17

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Originally Posted by RedWing

When he kills the enemy there is no realisation or questioning of whether there is a person piloting. My suspension of disbelief covers Mobile suits, colonies and their associated technologies. It isn't an excuse for BS characters.

Because he hates the UE. He considers them to be monsters rather than mobile suits.

monster · 2011-10-17, 03:19

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Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Because he hates the UE. He considers them to be monsters rather than mobile suits.

Yep, part of the disadvantage of being unknown is having it harder to get any sympathy from people you attack.

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	I'm pretty certain that Yurin isn't the downed Gafran's pilot. I think someone would've noticed if a human climbed out of the Gafran, especially if it was a little girl. I wouldn't be surprised if she is connected to the UE... but the pilot of the defeated Gafran? Doubtful. __________________

2011-10-17, 02:29	Link #133
SonicSP Sonic!I AM SONIC!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hot Non-Winter Place Age: 34	Here's a theory. How about if the UE's presence in Nora is actually to find and capture her in the first place for some reason? That lady from Diva did say that it was weird that the UE chose to destroy the colony in a particular way rather than quick kill with the energy factory destruction. They could be after something, and that she may be it. Of course it may be something se entirely and it would be a bit weird because the UE have a specific attack pattern. Just throwing out a random thought. __________________

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tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	They did do a scan look alike in episode 1. They might know that a gundam was being constructed in that colony like in the previews series. And since they knew it they might be interested on it's technology. And Yuurin might be some issues on big mobile suite. Aside that Flit might scare her when he was getting near her without using speakers to communicate with her. She might be hiding something... well like she's in a run from something? __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

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cyberdemon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007	why do i get the feeling that this new girl Yurin is actually the pilot of the UE suit defeated in the first episode?

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GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	This is all assuming the UE are piloted by anyone.

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monster Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Frankly, Yurin handled it a lot better than can be expected for someone who had a beam weapon fire in her direction.

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StrikeFreedomV2 Super Striker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Germany Age: 38	So far, SonicSP's theory makes the most sense to me. I doubt she was the Gafran's pilot, that thing got blown up and if she were inside or just climbing out, she would had sustained a injury or least some bruises.