2012-03-12, 10:13 | Link #121 | |
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Spoiler for Jiraiya and Mito:
The pic above also shows Mito the 1st hokage's wife and she was a jinchuuriki so she must be strong and if Kabuto has edo's like her then Kabuto can give Sasuke and Itachi a good fight. I think Kabuto plans to capture Sasuke maybe so he can do what Oro couldn't do. |
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2012-03-12, 12:14 | Link #123 | |
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2012-03-12, 13:18 | Link #124 | |
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2012-03-12, 13:33 | Link #125 | |
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raikage was ok with a 'genin' fighting for him. remember when he tested KM naruto and then let him go enter the war? your point about naruto being genin is silly. he's one of, if not the strongest, ninja on the alliance force |
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2012-03-13, 09:21 | Link #127 |
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it's more than that. if that were true then yamato would be 'god-like'. hashirama apparently had instant regeneration according to recent words of madara. he also could tame the bijou as his pets. his chakra must have been some of the most powerful we have seen or heard of similar to the RS's younger son.
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2012-03-13, 09:23 | Link #128 | |
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2012-03-13, 13:24 | Link #131 | |
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to which i gave an answer based on the actual story. after testing naruto, the raikage was indeed satisfied to have him leave and fight for him against enemies like pain. the timeline is irrelevant in this case since at the time of pain's battle we barely knew the raikage anyway. you're basing your opinion on his character based on events that happened later than the naruto v pain fight and then apparently asking me to go back in time and predict what the raikage would do before we even knew much about his personality. as gruff and stubborn as he is, he's not stupid or unmovable. naruto is the type of character who can change someone like that's mind, which he did |
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2012-03-13, 16:23 | Link #135 |
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yep. also, kishi had to explain that the So6P was incredibly strong and started the ninja world. therefore future generations couldn't have kept surpassing him if he was the one who made ninjutsu, the moon and split the juubi. basically its like a parabola now with the RS at the first point and Naruto and Sasuke at the last point which will eventually rise above the first point. of course it's not a perfect arc since ninja vary in power but the average of each generation may produce a fairly smooth curve. either way the end points are and will be like that when the manga finishes. takashipl is right about the thematic change though. it used to be every generation outdid the previous one. now it's more broad
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2012-03-13, 17:46 | Link #136 |
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Guys, I just remember something. When Kakuzu was defeated (or before it), wasn’t he said something like “I’ve fought the first Hokage and survive” or “I’ve fought the first Hokage equally”. If that’s true, it would be totally ridiculous. Does anybody remember what Kakuzu actually said regarding Hashirama? I don’t have that chapter with me.
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2012-03-13, 18:02 | Link #137 | |
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2012-03-13, 18:06 | Link #138 | |
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Though it did kinda seemed like a boast, implying that he was able to fight on Hashirama's level.
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2012-03-13, 22:44 | Link #140 |
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In the most technical of senses, nothing has directly contradicted the claims regarding the Third - all comparisons of Hashirama to other shinobi has been done to the ones alive today. Not that it changes how inflated the purported powers of Madara and Hashirama have become over the course of the manga. I think it was somewhat inevitable with ninja powers getting flashy to the point of producing a character like Pain, though.
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