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I agree with Relentlessflame about how severe her problem really is and how deep rooted it is to make it completely unbelievable for her to be healed without professional help. I'm quoting myself here. Quote:
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2012-09-15, 22:49 | Link #1243 |
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By the way... Its only two episodes remaining right???
Hmm... issues like it'll be rushed ca be solved easily.... through a time skip.... 10 years later Chisato recovered with Yuuki still by her side... then proposes to her as her prized!!! That would be good..... |
2012-09-15, 22:57 | Link #1244 | |
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If that's the case, though, it's hard to imagine them resolving all the plot threads *and* having time for a time skip that really resolves anything. We'll see...
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2012-09-16, 06:30 | Link #1245 | |
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2012-09-16, 06:36 | Link #1246 | |
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Can't argue with that... If there is an award for be drama.. Chisato would win.... |
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2012-09-16, 09:07 | Link #1247 | |
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I think a certain level of sympathy is required to understand her reaction, to be fair I think its unlikely that many people get to see their own brother get knocked down by a car possibly due to their own actions. So IMO for her to have to relive the experience will probably induce a real shock to her, its like having twice the guilt and twice the pain of loss. So her emotions would be in control rather than her rational thinking which as the anime has shown she is rational and smart. On another note, her trauma is most deeply rooted within the chocolate aspect of their relationship, if that can be overcome, her resolution can easily happen. I felt that that was was the episode 10 and the previous episodes were trying to show, she is not as emotionally dependent on Yuuki as she is to the chocolate ritual that she creates in order to escape her own guilt. The fact that she tries to use the chocolate during the bathroom scene shows that she thinks that its a way for her to atone for her actions, a form of escapism for her if you will. Therefore contrary to the belief that she is completely crazy and needs professional help, it is not completely impossible for her to overcome her dependency on seeing chocolate get eaten.
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2012-09-16, 14:42 | Link #1249 |
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So, two episode left ... I can't see Chisato problem being resolved in this short span of time. So the only solution I can see is that it has been already solved. Oojima slapped her, she forced herself eating chocolate, few days in hermitage in her room and ... et voilà. She will be back full force supporting Oojima on his will to add his "policy" to help the financial aid students. He will understand that she is ok and we will be back to square one.
With Oojima oversleeping and Chisato waking him up every morning, but with the new consciousness between each other, and far in the background President Shinonome would be organizing her policies aganist bullying with the help of her sister, bla, bla, bla. Spoiler for my thoughts on the three themes:
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2012-09-16, 16:21 | Link #1250 |
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They have like 7k ppl in there. Big budgets and clubs, though things are really blown out of proportions. Michiru better have some explenations to do next ep, as for Chisato she will most likely sit down with mr. O in his room and chew up some choco with him to make up.
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2012-09-16, 23:06 | Link #1252 | |
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Yeah despite all the positive proof for certain characters, I will still vie for that 0% chance of Isara as end girl. It also has to do with two simple patterns. We've already had sequences of episodes that featured specific girls for 0.5 - 2 episodes. The other pattern is that if there's an Isara "issue" to resolve, it'd be bullying, which is an end goal, and only Yuuki is in favor of that for the most part. But yeah, everyone sees a big trend of "oh hey come to think of it, a lot of events that are going on in Koichoco don't actually have to do anything with Yuuki specifically". Yes Yuuki is involved or learned about it, but isn't the direct source of the problem nor the solution. Like even if he wins the election, it might be himself that brings that extra kick to get over the hump, but for the most part it's his supporting cast that generated the momentum and possibility. On a random episode 10 joke, I like how Satsuki referred to Yuuki as Oojima (kouhou?) when she came to the club room. I'm looking at the current turn of events/routes as "route/scenario" resolution. A "base" or a "core problem resolution" that's also "independent of the election". It's occurred or is occurring for every girl but Isara (well I guess bullying is a "problem" so "election results" should "solve" it. Even if Yuuki wants it dealt with now, the strategy is to deal with it after. Either way, they're probably dealing with it eventually somehow). So yeah I'm still picking Isara. Even if I'm being ... delusional |
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2012-09-16, 23:13 | Link #1253 |
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I'm not too sure, majority of what Yuuki I believe is actually out of his own choices, IIRC Satsuki convinced with to fight for what he believed in but it didn't involve giving with the will to run for the election, instead he tried to comvince his club to make Chisato run, in the end they picked him through voting. True he was forced into running by the club but I feel that it is just for the plots sake that he run. In terms of the Chisato, the chocolate thing is definitely a ritual but the morning routine is just that its a routine. Another thing about Satsuki not forcing him into anything she did ask what he would do if she did force herself on to him, and I'm sure she would have done it had see not been intterupted. IMO she does not act as a counterpoint, especially when the two sisters can use Yuuki as a prize disregarding his feelings all together if that is not forcing, things like being forced to stay in her room during the camp due to circumstances, are similar to events happening can't really be counted though, even though if she wanted there probably was a way for him to leave the building. Mouri even before deciding to help Yuuki win the election told him that he already had his own agenda as pointed put by Chisato and the only reason he was helping was because it was mutually beneficial for them, in other words he is not as forced as you perceive IMO.
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2012-09-17, 03:56 | Link #1254 |
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I think people are overreacting to the chocolate part. While i agree that the anime has made it worse by overdramatizing this in episode 10 , by leaving out some information and even changing scenes completely compared to the game.
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2012-09-17, 05:38 | Link #1255 |
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Is anyone else curious about Michiru? Now that I know she's supposed to be a spy, I'm wondering how much of what we've seen of her personality was just her "doing her job" (Especially that whole harmonica indirect kiss thing at the end of ep 9), and how loyal she actually is to the food club
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2012-09-17, 06:09 | Link #1256 | |
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Her behaving like a cat may be a personal trait. Not to mention that magic aura seeing of Oojima mood. Unless that is some kind of special commando training those spies get ^^. Though she could come out of the closet sooner. Her fooling around on the floor in almost every ep was ...
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2012-09-17, 10:45 | Link #1257 | ||||
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Surely Isara and Satsuki share some points, they are both outsiders; they, more or less, never forced themselves into him and both worked as a "mean" to let Oojima grow up opening his eyes on what's there beyond the club. They both, having no connections with the club, are free from Chisato's legacy that let them be themselves instead of being subjected to it. I ruled her out simply because between them Satsuki has been proactive, Isara instead has been more passive in how the dynamics evolved through the series. And Isara seems to be the representation of scholarship issues, meant to enlighten Oojima, more than anything else. So she has a role, even if not the one you had preferred , that belong more to the election plot. (As Chisato's role seems to belong to the Chocolate plot; I hardly can fit Satsuki's role in one or another sub plot, even for that reason I had been expecting her fulfilling the love role at the end). Counting even how many non-encounters they had, namely having no screen time, I ruled her out. I agree that Oojima never crossed any "romantic" line toward Satsuki, in fact I said how unclear his preference is yet and on that I have to praise the writers since usually at this point of a show the outcome had been already been cleared out in one direction or the other. Here, even if a general feeling toward Chisato has been being in the air from day one, at least for me, they are still keep things uncertain. I still have hopes for Satsuki But it's time to make it clearer. Quote:
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The only moment I can see her forcing him has been when Satsuki made him half spilling the beans about the kiss, but that was again in romance context where everything is permitted. And it was not forcing him doing something instead of something else in relation of what he want to do. Anyways Satsuki is not perfect (even if so far she has been depicted like that). Quote:
Anyways, I was thinking how the central point of the club is sweets and only sweets. Accidentally Chisato has an issue with chocolate, a kind of sweet. All the club members seem to be aware of Chisato's hidden issue. And from day one many of us were a bit confused by the club purpose. What if ...
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2012-09-17, 11:42 | Link #1258 | |
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2012-09-18, 01:57 | Link #1260 |
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Yes yes.....Girls and their relationships are fun to discuss and all....but I can't believe no one here is actually batting an eyelid at what kind of effed up school they study in...
Yeah I know eroge organizations are usually rather dubious but for this genre the school still kind of crosses the red line.
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