2012-10-04, 12:14 | Link #81 | |
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I don't see the point of the disk beyond being a collector's item. And let's be honest here, only a fraction of the potential consumer base is interested in disks as collectors items. If they stick to the collectors item route, they'll rarely sell to more then 20,000 people, when there's several million(in and out of East Asia) available just waiting to "buy". And let's put that in perspective, 20,000 is less people then the number of people that attend my rather obscure university. It's peanuts in the entertainment world. And anyway, I think you're wrong about there being an East Asian bias in favour of physical media. Physical media sales are pretty damn low in Japan. If Physical media sales were high, we'd see Anime DVDs routinely selling several hundred thousand copies, but instead they're lucky if they even reach ten thousand. I see similar commitment to buying physical media where I am in the west. Loads of people have huge DVD or CD collections, and I see more and more people ditching them in favour of computer storage and streaming. People are fundamentally lazy, and the laziest easiest way to get your entertainment is downloading. That isn't different in Japan or America. The difference is that Japanese retailers have always pursued the low volume, high price approach to video. Sales volume was never high in the first place, and so it won't shed sales as easily (people were primarily buying DVDs to collect, not to watch the thing. Far as I'm aware, Renting was always far more popular in Japan). If we want a more direct analogue, if we look at Music CD sales, Japanese sales have been declining just like everyone else's has. Their attachment to physical media clearly hasn't broken the lure of free convenient music. |
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2012-10-04, 13:10 | Link #82 | |
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2012-10-04, 13:12 | Link #83 |
Gamilas Falls
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Some people like to have a physical copy that won't get destroyed by an accidental memory wipe or EMP. Or a hard drive failure. A DVD can still melt in fire and the like, ore get scratched or broken, but if one breaks, you lose one...if your hard drive fails, you loose all of them. But if the online source still exists, you can just get it again relatively easily. You'd have to buy a new DVD if the one from before broke.
Other (usually older people) don't trust computers enough to deal with digital downloading. They are still very much worried about viruses, identity theft, and other problems that were being loudly announced a decade ago. Or they just don't want to bother with it because the TV screen is larger with a much better sound system for the BD player.
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2012-10-04, 13:24 | Link #84 |
The Dark Empress
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Shit better watch out when downloading my anime/character music from now on.
I doubt nothing will happen they will probably just go after a few individuals to make a point then after that nothing.
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2012-10-04, 15:07 | Link #85 |
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And we all give eachother cars for free every day right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_of_stolen_goods If you didn't buy the original media, you damn well know you shouldn't have it in your posession Ah internet piracy, the west's version of the 419 scam
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2012-10-04, 15:57 | Link #86 |
Gamilas Falls
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Your phasing suggested that you stole your own car that you got for free.
How do you steal your own car that you happened to get for free (such as winning a car in a write in prize contest or one given to you by a family member)?
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2012-10-04, 18:30 | Link #87 | |
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From online research, a passable 1080p rip with compressed audio comes up to between 7gb-10gb in size. A good blu-ray rip that has identical video to those on disc will take anything from 10gb-20gb, that is after compressing the audio. Not quite as lightweight as expected. But this is the standard for today, and I believe there will be a better compression format that offers a better size to quality ration in the future. Still, by then, the media companies will have something even better to offer on disc. DVD used to be best, but compression tech and transfer speed had caught up with it. That is why we have Blu-ray. In all, if you are not picky about video or sound quality, go for the online digital format. If you are one of those who wants the best in the sights and sounds, go for disc. |
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2012-10-04, 18:37 | Link #88 |
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Eventhough i am basically obstructing my own posts for promoting people to buy discs, but whatever.
I will be my acting as a devil's advocate's advocate then. Most 1080p animes that you find on blu-rays are basically upscaled version of 720p. So you won't see that much of a difference. |
2012-10-04, 18:41 | Link #89 | |
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2012-10-04, 18:43 | Link #90 | |
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Also from what i have seen , hollywood movies blu-rays usually don't cost $80-90, while also being shot at a better quality than anime blu-rays. |
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2012-10-04, 19:17 | Link #92 | |
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I do recall seeing some demonstrations of blu-ray in my local hardware store. Compared to my rips, I wasn't impressed. Anyway, with a good internet connection you can easily download 10-20 gb(My friend could pull that down in an hour, and so could even stream it), and the hard drive space to hold it is now super cheap. Those numbers would be too much for my terrible connection though. If you compare to the alternative, of paying money, and spending several hours finding it in the shops, or waiting a week while waiting for it to be delivered after ordering online, a 10-20gb rip still comes out ahead, so long as your internet connection is good enough. |
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2012-10-04, 19:22 | Link #93 |
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As an audiophile who owns and uses headphone amp , multiple expensive headphones and even owns high tier "portable" sources like the hifiman hm-801, I beg to differ that you can't hear the difference between wav and mp3 files. Even mp3 files ripped at 320kbps have noticable differences over lossless files for me.
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2012-10-04, 19:37 | Link #95 |
Gamilas Falls
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That depends entirely on how sensitive one's hearing is. If someone has even a small amount of hearing loss (from playing music too loud as a teenage, having the sounds turned up too loud on the Xbox, or to much industrial zones) they probably can't tell the differences at all in sound quality on those levels. If the soud is all scratchy or fades in and out they will notice, but above a certain level of quality, their ears can't tell the difference anymore. Same with video quality to many people.
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2012-10-04, 20:11 | Link #96 | |
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There has been other experiments performed. In that experiment people cannot tell the difference between standard CD audio and "high definition" audio. Generally, most expensive audiophile stuff is a load of snake oil. Particularly the cables... |
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2012-10-04, 20:26 | Link #97 | |
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Also i am not a "cable" type of person, but someone tempers with settings on amps and compares music with multiple headphones that have different sound signatures |
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2012-10-04, 20:38 | Link #98 | ||
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btw, on the topic of sound quality, I think it depends more on your headphones and settings than your sound files. |
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2012-10-04, 20:47 | Link #99 | ||
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I only mentioned this, because people were going on the quality issue of 1080p animes. Quote:
Likewise a 24 bit flac won't sound that much better than most mp3 files, if you are using stock earbuds from a cheap mp3 player. |
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2012-10-04, 21:25 | Link #100 | ||
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