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And then there's the Jeans owner from the Norse SS.
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2013-01-23, 08:06 | Link #23405 | |
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I would also like to add the Witch Corps has some nice people, as well as some of the Anglican nuns.
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2013-01-23, 08:06 | Link #23406 |
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They're a minority and, in case you're forgetting, their Supreme Pontiff Kaori was the first one to nearly kill Touma, only leaving him alive since they didn't want Index to run away.
In fact she checked to see if it was alright if he disappeared. It was mentioned you need some kind of trauma or drive to become a magician. Happy people don't need the backdoor known as magic. Edit: Orsola is also a minority and Agnese nearly crucified her just over a da*n book. Not all magicians are bad, but the majority are.
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2013-01-23, 08:11 | Link #23407 | ||
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So what if they're a minority? They're still magicians aren't they? That's like saying everyone fits the description so long as you leave out those that don't. But that's not what you had implied. Quote:
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2013-01-23, 08:18 | Link #23409 | |
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But, let me revise what I said: She's the leader of a Magical Cabal that wants to take over both sides and reign supreme (which GREMLIN is threatening and hence her competition) in a world where the moment someone declares a sorcery name blood will probably be spilled and if you're in the crossfire or just around, you are boned. If a thousand or a hundred thousand sacrifices are needed, then oh well.
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2013-01-23, 08:38 | Link #23411 | |
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I said they throw away ethics/morals, not that they are certified bad guys. If it's in the way of their goal, they'll punt such things away, even for good reasons. Every one of the magicians we've met and focused on follows this to an extent. Orsola ran from the Amakusa and they tracked her down. Yes, they had good intentions, but they didn't honor her wishes. Granted it was because she was scared, but kidnapping someone is hardly ethical, even if for a good reason. Tsuchimikado....do I even have to mention him? Stiyl has mentioned burning the living to death and the dead to ashes, not to mention he tried roasting Kamijou when they first met. Kaori whupped his butt to the extent that being made of iron and no leathal intent was the only reason he survived and he didn't even know her. Acqua actually came the closest to killing him for a while or demanding he cut off his hand when his organization was the one causing the problems (Fiamma liked to play chessmaster, I know). Walking porn, I mean Orianna and her handler were willing to subvert the entire populace of Academy City's free will to the church because it would make the world a better place in their opinion with no proof otherwise. Fukiyose was victimized because of it for one thing, and if it wasn't her it would be another bystander, not to mention Himegami. Ouma's attack on Touma's home and then the restaurant (which would have caused serious damage with all the glass shrapnel if IB wasn't handy) to kidnap a little girl and pick her brain. Did I mention these are supposed to be the good (well, reasonable) guys? Ethics go out the window if they're in the way for magicians. It's why they keep themselves separated and in the dark from regular society. What Birdway is doing is no different than any other magician in terms of ethics. Edit: Note this also applies to certain Espers, GREMLIN, and Kiriharas.
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2013-01-23, 08:47 | Link #23412 | ||
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Better yet we can draw parallels with Kamijou, the core of her personality has not been lost with those memories. Quote:
Essentially nobody's a saint, but are you trying to say that if you're capable of doing so-and-so bad stuff, you're just as likely to do even worse things? There are some lines people don't cross- your mileage may vary but to say that you should expect the worst from all magicians seem to be taking it a tad bit too far.
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2013-01-23, 08:56 | Link #23413 | |
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I'm saying, don't expect magicians to adhere to what society considers ethical behavior, for good or for bad. Magicians, as a whole, do what they need to in order to accomplish a goal, and they themselves acknowledge this throughout the series, otherwise they wouldn't be so secretive or need a sorcery name. They could do a lot of good if they went public, without the limitations of Espers, but a lot of their sins and questionable practices would come to light as a result, including WWIII, and with the good comes the bad. It's the reason Magic is a backdoor in the first place.
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2013-01-23, 09:05 | Link #23414 | |
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Silvia allows Ollerus to keep about 100 until they get adopted. Even Acqua has helped a lot of people during his days as mercenary. The only difference is that we know the soft side of Kanzaki. Quote:
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I don't think she wanted to kill her but be sure of of inmovilize her enough to not have her crossing paths again. Also it would be a bad idea if both Brunhild and Birdway reveals their trump cards before the main dish. And Birdway's seems to be enough strong to face Fiamma's golden arms but didn't for secret issues. Oh well... What I find hilarious and wall-bang worthy is Touma is too much foccused on Birdway as if she were the mastermind that needs to be stopped. It seems he really forgot Ollerus told him that Fiamma was going around the city probably going ORE-SAMA on people and unknown things while waiting in the dark to show once again the power the hand that saves the world. Quote:
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2013-01-23, 11:53 | Link #23419 | |
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Birdway didn't use her title because...well, we all know she isn't going all out.
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2013-01-23, 12:06 | Link #23420 | ||
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All magicians who say their magic name are in serious mode or serious business. because to them they are trying to uphold their goal by saying it. which means the monsters of magic side are really holding back this time. Well their target isn't the brats of science side but Othinus is their ultimate goal. Quote:
Index's magic name is pertaining to protecting wisdom or something along those lines. her role was to protect the grimoire not the people.
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