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View Poll Results: Ore no Imouto (Season Two) - Episode 13 [TV End] Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 16 | 25.81% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 15 | 24.19% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 14 | 22.58% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 10 | 16.13% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 4 | 6.45% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 3.23% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.61% | |
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll |
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2013-07-02, 00:25 | Link #101 |
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I've given up on watching this since volume 12 was released (which means episode 9 or something?)...... Just came here to check this last episode thread, and not to my surprise, a large number of remaining posters have Kirino avatars
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2013-07-02, 03:24 | Link #102 | |||
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The only reason for this flashback was to justify Kirino's constant abuse of her brother. To give her a heartwrenching past. To make her look like the victim. Well, it didn't work for me.
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2013-07-02, 03:59 | Link #103 |
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^I don't know if you have noticed, but this show is about a pair of siblings reconciling, whether be it romantically or normally and there must be a reason why they started a Cold War. The Author isn't using Manami as a scapegoat but there must be a ''villian'' (if any) and it happens to be your most innocent character. On another note, the only thing I know is that Kirino demanded her cool brother back that she admired and looks up to,why do you think she started to do all stuff to be like him or even exceed him? It was her dream to be just like him, and I really don't blame her for turning like this. More accurate to say that she never hated ''him'' but she hated his ''way of living style'' that suddenly and dramatically changed.
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Edit: Yes, Kirino admitted that he is no super being, but its not now,she realized it before but still she is thankful for all what he did for her,the fact that she did listen when he tried to convince her dad just makes the ''thank you aniki'' in S1 Ep3 much more sweet. She started to thaw her ''hate'' (if any) from the start and you can see that at the end of S1, I mean come on there was no speck of hate, I really didnt get convinced that they really hate each other,and a reason must be there to justify it. Last edited by MYAWS; 2013-07-02 at 04:10. |
2013-07-02, 04:56 | Link #104 | |||
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Her confusion and anger at this whole situation that is unfolding around her and the way she's being shoved out of the equation is at least understandable. Quote:
There's no reason to make either one of them entirely the bad guy when either one of them could have taken steps to solve it a lot sooner than they did. Stuff happened, it didn't get dealt with properly, and they became estranged from each other. Trying to decide who is "more at fault" is a fool's errand. Quote:
I don't know why everything has to be stated in such extremes. This show has no angels and no demons. Just people who each have their own beliefs and circumstances, and these sometimes clash and cause problems. I don't even know why people have to be like "the author's making Manami look like a b*tch" -- everyone has their reasons. She too is the hero and victim of her own life story, and right now we've only seen one (strongly opposing) point of view.
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2013-07-02, 05:29 | Link #105 | |||
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2013-07-02, 07:56 | Link #106 | |
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2013-07-02, 10:13 | Link #107 | |
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2013-07-03, 04:52 | Link #109 | |||||||
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How can she bear a grudge to a member of her family for so long? A caring sister would have tried to understand Kyo's motives, instead of shutting him out completely. Quote:
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If Kirino thought this issue was so important, why did she give up after a single try? Why did she never bring back the argument again? My issue with Kirino is that she gave Kyo the silent treatment instead of trying harder to convince him. Quote:
And where did that bullshit "Ideal World" come from? Why must she sacrifice her own happiness for Kirino's sake? They are not even that close! Quote:
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2013-07-03, 05:21 | Link #110 |
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Your hate for Kirino is not normal,its ''real'' and ''genuine''. Yeah and your claim that she is the center of the universe,yes she is, I think you have noticed that everything revolves around her.Kuroneko not being the scheming type? Have you ever payed attention? What does her Destiny Record mean? She had everything planned,heck she even says it all the time.Again, you will not admit the Manami is a ''vilian''(if any in this series) because you have always seen her gentle and innocent side while she has her ''dark'' side too just like every other girl. I wonder how you will react had the story been told in Kirino's POV.
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2013-07-03, 06:11 | Link #112 | |||
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Example 1: Episode 7 Season 1: Despite both being pissed of at the other for being portrayed as sex slave / rape victim, both want to spend time together (as evidenced by Kirino not kicking her out, and Kuroneko not leaving), though are prevented from admitting it by their pride. Example 2: Episode 8 Season 1: Kuroneko goes out of her way to get those anime makers to accept Kirino's original work. Example 3: Episode 15 Season 1: Kuroneko pushes Kyousuke to visit Kirino in the US to clear up that mail. In the end she rushes in the airport to await for her. Example 4: Episode 5 Season 2: Kuroneko's dress was picked out for her by Kirino. As for Kuroneko, one of her main issues is being direct. So it is not really out of character if she wants Kyousuke and Kirino to sort out their issues, through actions rather than talk. She knows exactly that through talk, Kirino would never admit her desire of Kyousuke not having a girlfriend and that through talk Kyousuke's denseness regarding Kirino's feelings wouldn't be solved. Was it harsh, yes, but one can say that it was necessary. You can say she toyed with their feelings, but on the other hand you can say that due to her knowledge of their characters and feelings, she knew more or less what would be the result, that the result wouldn't be negative.
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2013-07-03, 16:18 | Link #113 | |||
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Expecting her to be able to come to terms with his unexpected life choices at her age is not really reasonable. She's still of the age where she admired him for being "so cool", and here in an instant he became completely "uncool" for no good reason. Why would a kid accept that? How are kids supposed to see the "wisdom" there when given that sort of explanation, or have the maturity to accept it? In this situation, isn't it more reasonable that she would believe that "evil" Manami is to blame for him turning out that way, and that she's just trying to take her brother away from her? (Whether this is the truth or not, it's a lot easier for kids to understand that sort of "good and evil" story, even if reality is a lot more nuanced.) All in all, you're expecting a degree of maturity and insight that most kids that age just don't have. (Heck, it's a level of maturity and insight that a lot of people following this show don't have about what really went on between Kirino and Manami!) At that age, a lot of siblings hate each other just because they find them "annoying". I've known adults who've held grudges for even longer than Kirino and Kyousuke, and for reasons that are no less petty. Quote:
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2013-07-05, 07:11 | Link #117 | |
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But, this is only my opinion. Don't be offended by it. About Kirino being a spoiled brat. I don't think so. Spoiler for Behavior:
Edit: @GVN.Chaos, If you explain it 'a hundered times' and it is clear why she did that. This won't stop people from repeating the same thing again and again. Expect more comments like this in the future Yes, you can change your name. See link of dr. casey. offtopic: I changed my name: mayid into Sakura_tsuki! Last edited by Sakuratsuki; 2013-07-05 at 13:13. |
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2013-07-05, 08:51 | Link #118 | |
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For God's sake, don't ignore clear sign. Kirino only acted that way toward Kyousuke and Manami, and laterly only Manami. Eh? How can you change your name? |
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2013-07-06, 14:34 | Link #120 |
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Honestly I tend to avoid long named and in-understandable Anime names but thank god this is one of the few with that kind of name that made me glad to watch it, and also the recent comments that keep popping from this forum had some role to make me watch this. Totally love all of the female characters with a bit of an exception to Manami because of her looks but she reminds me of Nagisa soooo much I just can't hate her
Never had a problem with Kirino throughout the Anime because I had the feeling she was just shy of being thankful to her brother and with the expressions you get before she turns 'tsun' again which actually shows you that Kirino isn't 99% tsun and 1%dere and is just soooo used to being a prick to Kyousuke and just doesn't seem comfortable to being nice to his brother but that seems to have been cleared up in the recent episodes hehe. Just a huge 10/10 to this second season basing it on emotional impact and enjoyment. Watch it, gotta love it.
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