2015-02-27, 19:06 | Link #1103 | |
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So Hiraoka isn't doing the bare minimum. He's doing less, and the whole production will suffer for it.
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2015-02-27, 19:07 | Link #1104 |
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And that's exactly it. Musashino is full of unusualy idealistic people. He doing bare minimum he is suppossed do, it just these people want more.
Going to people he has on list, carry stuff he is suppossed carry, and relay messages he is suppossed relay. Plus probably few another minor things.
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2015-02-27, 19:09 | Link #1105 | ||
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If you keep doing the bare minimum, reputation isn't going anywhere, and the workload might be even more screwed later on. In the context of Shirobako, it is exactly due to Exodus' popularity that Yokata Bookstore decided to hire Musashino for Aerial Girls, which is considered as a major manga title in-universe. Quote:
The assistant producer is responsible of the cuts so that the workflow is smooth for the entire team. If he chooses loosy animators, it will lead to decrepency for the given episode and might even lead to more workload and delay (i.e what happened with the layouts in episode 18). And it is THEIR problem because it will affect everyone's else job. Regardless if the director or the episode director is being picky or not, not giving crap about the fine details will bite your ass sooner or later, especially if it is outsourced. That's also why Aoi got the shaft in an earlier episode for not making sure that key frame animators would keep the pace, and Kisa almost screwed her big time despite claiming he would be able to do the cuts in a single day.
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2015-02-27, 19:17 | Link #1108 | |
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Because again, that's what the people he recommended did. I'm not going to deny that the studio members are idealists but his screw ups go way beyond not being able to hold up to ideal standards.
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2015-02-27, 21:43 | Link #1111 |
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To be fair, I can see where Tenzen12 is coming from.
It is notable that the Musashino Animation response to every unforeseen complication and to every onerous "redo!" demand, is to accept it and go along with it and do a lot of extra work. And they do this even with minimal, if not non-existent, complaint. Nobody ever just says "no" to the Director. Granted, his creative ideas are good. They do tend to improve the quality of the finished product. But still, this often isn't even a basic QUALITY animation issue. This often is like the difference between good/acceptable and great/memorable. That difference is important, but I'm not sure if it's something that would make or break a studio. I'm really not sure it's something I'd feel comfortable saying to the animators, "Yeah, you're going to have to spend a few hours of working overtime just so our MC's big drama moment can be a little bit better". And it's interesting that nobody even seemed tempted to say the following (in nicer words, but the same general idea) to the manga author for their current project: "You don't like it? Well too bad. It's your own fault for having such a ridiculously bad Editor work as an intermediary between you and us. Next time you might want to consider getting more proactively involved in anime adaptations of your manga." Now, I'll fully admit I don't know all that much about the inner workings of the anime industry. Maybe blowing off the source material writer like this isn't even legally feasible. If it's not legally feasible, then I can certainly understand nobody seriously or even half-heartedly suggesting it. It's a bit surprising that there wasn't more grumbling and venting about it though. I gotta say that most of the folks at Musashino Animation are remarkably good at rolling with almost anything that they can run into.
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2015-02-27, 21:52 | Link #1112 | |
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As far as it goes, Katsuragi and Watanabe had to pull many stunts to get the contract with Yotaka (hence why you saw both of them negociating with several employees, be it the editor in chief or the Organization head). As such, it isn't like they are in position to do as they see fit. Therefore, it is very likely that in such instance, Yotaka would have the last say, and if the author of their current best seller is unhappy with the anime, it isn't surprising for them to complain to the studio. Likewise, it also explains why Watanabe and Katsuragi had to comply when Chazawa asked them a PV out of the blue. Even though it is quite rare, there are series that the author has the final word.
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2015-02-27, 23:45 | Link #1114 | |
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This isn't a digital world where there's only 0s and 1s. I'd never hire you, you sound like a terrible worker.
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2015-02-28, 00:03 | Link #1116 | |
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Most of the main male characters on this show seem to have a negative aspect to them. What was the last anime PA Works made with a good male lead "Angel Beats"? Last edited by prototype_sky; 2015-02-28 at 00:20. |
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2015-02-28, 02:11 | Link #1118 |
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Madoka's reason for creating anime seems to be exact opposite to the mindset that Hiraoka might hold. "I do it because I can't wait to work on the next project." A passionate answer, echoed in reality by Monty Oum in his tribute video on why he works tirelessly to the extent of sleeping at his desk.
Can't tell where the subplot with Hiraoka is going but for how long it's been on-going hopefully the payoff will be worth it.
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