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Old 2016-01-09, 07:15   Link #61
Ulin
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I'm still watching almost one season late, but with the shows I got to watch this year at least my options are clear

-{A1}- [Best Storyline & Plot]
Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku
Shigatsu wa kimi no uso
Hibike! Euphonium

-{A2}- [Best Visuals & Animation]
Hibike! Euphonium
Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku

-{B1}- [Best Action-Adventure]
-{B2}- [Best Fantasy & Supernatural]
-{B3}- [Best Science Fiction]

-{B4}- [Best Drama]
Shigatsu wa kimi no uso
Hibike! Euphonium
Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku

-{B5}- [Best Romance]
Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku
Shigatsu wa kimi no uso
Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata

-{B6}- [Best Comedy]
Working!!!
Nisekoi
Jitsu Wa Watashi Wa

-{B7}- [Best Slice of Life]
Hibike! Euphonium
Working!!!
Love Live School Idol Movie


-{B8}- [Best Sports Series]
Baby Steps 2 Season
Shokugeki no Souma (I know it's not strictly about sports but I think it fits pretty well)

-{C1}- [Best TV Series]
Hibike! Euphonium

-{C2}- [Best OVA]
Ane Log: Moyako Neesan no Tomaranai Monologue

-{C3}- [Best Movie]
Love Live - School Idol Movie

-{D1}- [Best Female Lead]
Yukino Yukinoshita - Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku
Kaori Miyazono - Shigatsu wa kimi no uso
Oumae Kumiko - Hibike! Euphonium

-{D2}- [Best Male Lead]
Yukihira Souma - Shokugeki no Souma
Eichiro Maruo - Baby Steps 2
Takanashi Souta - Working!!!

-{D3}- [Best Antagonist]

-{D4}- [Best Side-Character]
Kousaka Reina - Hibike! Euphonium
Yukihira Joichiro - Shokugeki no Souma
Aoi Yamada - Working!!!

-{D5}- [Best World Setting]

-{D6}- [Best Credits Theme]
Kibou no Uta - Shokugeki no Soma OP
Believe in Yourself - Baby Steps 2 OP
Dream Solister - Hibike! Euphonium OP

-{D7}- [Best Soundtrack]
Hibike! Euphonium
Shigatsu wa kimi no uso

-{D8}- [Best Ongoing Series]
Akagami no Shirayukihime

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Old 2016-01-10, 04:27   Link #62
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-{A1}- [Best Storyline & Plot] Noragami ARAGOTO, Overlord, Assassination Classroom, Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku

-{A2}- [Best Visuals & Animation]One Punch Man, Fate/Stay Night UBW (TV),


-{B1}- [Best Action-Adventure]One Punch Man, Overlord, Akatsuki no Yona, Shokugeki no Soma, Assassination Classroom

-{B2}- [Best Fantasy & Supernatural]Overlord, Kekkai Sensen, Akatsuki no Yona, Noragami ARAGOTO

-{B3}- [Best Science Fiction]

-{B4}- [Best Drama]Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku, Noragami ARAGOTO

-{B5}- [Best Romance]Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku

-{B6}- [Best Comedy]Kekkai Sensen, Assassination Classroom, One Punch Man

-{B7}- [Best Slice of Life]

-{B8}- [Best Sports Series]Shokugeki no Soma, Kuroko's Basketball Season 3

-{C1}- [Best TV Series]One Punch Man, Overlord, Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku, Assassination Classroom

-{C2}- [Best OVA]Imawa no Kuni no Alice

-{C3}- [Best Movie]Expelled from Paradise

-{D1}- [Best Female Lead]Yona (Akatsuki no Yona)

-{D2}- [Best Male Lead]Momonga/Ainz Ooal Gown (Overlord), Saitama (One Punch Man), Hikigaya Hachiman (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku),

-{D3}- [Best Antagonist]Dio Brando (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Stardust Crusader Second Season)

-{D4}- [Best Side-Character]Genos (One Punch Man), Joseph Joestar (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Stardust Crusader Second Season)

-{D5}- [Best World Setting]Overlord

-{D6}- [Best Credits Theme]Kancolle OP1, Shokugeki no Soma ED 2, Noragami ARAGOTO ED1, Classroom Crisis ED1

-{D7}- [Best Soundtrack]God Eater, Parasyte, Kekkai Sensen

-{D8}- [Best Ongoing Series]Concrete Revolutio, Akagami no Shirayuki-hime

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Old 2016-01-10, 06:22   Link #63
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-{A1}- [Best Storyline & Plot]
  1. Death Parade
  2. Akatsuki no Yona
  3. Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor - Exodus
-{A2}- [Best Visuals & Animation]
  1. Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199: Hoshimeguru Hakobune
  2. Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor - Exodus
  3. One-Punch Man
-{B1}- [Best Action-Adventure]
  1. One Punch Man
-{B2}- [Best Fantasy & Supernatural]
  1. Akatsuki no Yona
  2. Death Parade
  3. Noragami Aragoto
-{B3}- [Best Science Fiction]
  1. Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199: Hoshimeguru Hakobune
  2. Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor - Exodus
-{B4}- [Best Drama]
  1. Gangsta
  2. Death Parade
  3. Noragami Aragoto
-{B5}- [Best Romance]
  1. Ore Monogatari!!
  2. Working!!!
-{B6}- [Best Comedy]
  1. Working!!
-{B7}- [Best Slice of Life]
-{B8}- [Best Sports Series]
-{C1}- [Best TV Series]
  1. Akatsuki no Yona
  2. Death Parade
  3. Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor - Exodus
-{C2}- [Best OVA]
  1. Mushishi Zoku Shou: Suzu no Shizuku
  2. Little Witch Academia: Mahou Shikake no Parade
-{C3}- [Best Movie]
  1. Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199: Hoshimeguru Hakobune

-{D1}- [Best Female Lead]
  1. Yona - Akatsuki no Yona
  2. Maya Tōmi - Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor - Exodus
  3. Black Haired Woman - Death Parade
-{D2}- [Best Male Lead]
  1. Worick Arcangelo - Gangsta
  2. Decim - Death Parade
-{D3}- [Best Antagonist]
  1. Suu-won - Akatsuki no Yona
  2. Dio - JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Stardust Crusaders 2nd Season
-{D4}- [Best Side-Character]
  1. Ao - Akatsuki no Yona
-{D5}- [Best World Setting]
  1. Akatsuki no Yona
  2. Death Parade
  3. Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor - Exodus
-{D6}- [Best Credits Theme]
  1. Death Parade OP1
  2. Akatsuki no Yona OP1
  3. Kekkai Sensen ED1
-{D7}- [Best Soundtrack]
  1. Akatsuki no Yona
  2. Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor - Exodus
  3. Noragami Aragato
-{D8}- [Best Ongoing Series]
  1. Gintama
  2. Mobile Suit Gundam Origin
  3. Osomatsu
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Old 2016-01-10, 14:34   Link #64
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Intermediate Results
This is NOT the final result. Keep on voting!

44 people voted.

Errors

Errors do not prevented the entire submission from being counted. Only the part with the error is not counted, specifically the vote not the category. Bellow is a list of all errors, by member.
Simply go back and edit your post and fix them and that part of your vote will be counted next tally.
  1. MisaoFan [post]

    1. [Best World Setting] "Gakusen Toshi Asterisk" is of the type [Ongoing] which is not acceptable for the category.

  2. Pen3 [post]

    1. [Best Science Fiction] You've already voted for the series "Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor - Exodus" in two other genres.
    2. [Best Science Fiction] You've already voted for the series "Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works" in two other genres.
    3. [Best Credits Theme] This is a song category. All entries must be in the format: Series Name OP# repectively Series Name ED# where # is the song number.

  3. Rosalena [post]

    1. [Best Credits Theme] This is a song category. All entries must be in the format: Series Name OP# repectively Series Name ED# where # is the song number.

  4. Guardian Enzo [post]

    1. [Best Sports Series] "Diamond no Ace" is of the type [Ongoing] which is not acceptable for the category.

  5. SeijiSensei [post]

    1. [Best Drama] You've already voted for the series "Kiseijuu: Sei no Kakuritsu" in two other genres.

  6. Reckoner [post]

    1. [Best Romance] You've already voted for the series "Punch Line" in two other genres.
    2. [Best Sports Series] "Diamond no Ace" is of the type [Ongoing] which is not acceptable for the category.

  7. kitten320 [post]

    1. [Best Sports Series] "Diamond no Ace" is of the type [Ongoing] which is not acceptable for the category.
    2. [Best Antagonist] "Diamond no Ace" is of the type [Ongoing] which is not acceptable for the category.
    3. [Best Side-Character] "Diamond no Ace" is of the type [Ongoing] which is not acceptable for the category.

  8. Arya [post]

    1. [Best Romance] You've already voted for the series "Aldnoah.Zero" in two other genres.

  9. Nic [post]

    1. [Best Drama] You've already voted for the series "Kekkai Sensen" in two other genres.
    2. [Best Comedy] You've already voted for the series "Kekkai Sensen" in two other genres.
    3. [Best Slice of Life] You've already voted for the series "Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso" in two other genres.
    4. [Best Slice of Life] You've already voted for the series "Kekkai Sensen" in two other genres.

  10. playmaker2k [post]

    1. [Best Slice of Life] You've already voted for the series "Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso" in two other genres.
    2. [Best Female Lead] This is a character category. All entries must be in the format: Character Name / Series Name
    3. [Best Male Lead] This is a character category. All entries must be in the format: Character Name / Series Name
    4. [Best Antagonist] This is a character category. All entries must be in the format: Character Name / Series Name
    5. [Best Credits Theme] This is a song category. All entries must be in the format: Series Name OP# repectively Series Name ED# where # is the song number.

  11. mergele [post]

    1. [Best Romance] You've already voted for the series "Plastic Memories" in two other genres.
    2. [Best Slice of Life] You've already voted for the series "Plastic Memories" in two other genres.

  12. Cloudedmind [post]

    1. [Best Sports Series] "Diamond no Ace" is of the type [Ongoing] which is not acceptable for the category.

  13. Ulin [post]

    1. [Best Slice of Life] You've already voted for the series "Yahari Ore Zoku" in two other genres.

  14. Yamada II [post]

    1. [Best Visuals & Animation] "God Eater" is of the type [Ongoing] which is not acceptable for the category.

  15. Pocari_Sweat
    We noticed you posted in the thread, but none of your posts seem to contain votes. Perhaps you have a typo in the format? Please re-check your vote post if you have one. Both the {TAG} and the [Category Name] are mandatory. Placing your votes in any sort of block: spoiler tag, indent tag, quote, etc, will make it look like part of a discussion to us and as a result may not be considered.
  16. Yui Is My Wife
    We noticed you posted in the thread, but none of your posts seem to contain votes. Perhaps you have a typo in the format? Please re-check your vote post if you have one. Both the {TAG} and the [Category Name] are mandatory. Placing your votes in any sort of block: spoiler tag, indent tag, quote, etc, will make it look like part of a discussion to us and as a result may not be considered.
  17. IceHism
    We noticed you posted in the thread, but none of your posts seem to contain votes. Perhaps you have a typo in the format? Please re-check your vote post if you have one. Both the {TAG} and the [Category Name] are mandatory. Placing your votes in any sort of block: spoiler tag, indent tag, quote, etc, will make it look like part of a discussion to us and as a result may not be considered.
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Old 2016-01-10, 19:41   Link #65
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[Best Slice of Life] You've already voted for the series "Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso" in two other genres.
[Best Female Lead] This is a character category. All entries must be in the format: Character Name / Series Name
[Best Male Lead] This is a character category. All entries must be in the format: Character Name / Series Name
[Best Antagonist] This is a character category. All entries must be in the format: Character Name / Series Name
[Best Credits Theme] This is a song category. All entries must be in the format: Series Name OP# repectively Series Name ED# where # is the song number.

Suggestions for whoever is in charge:

People can look up the name of the characters or OP/ED for any anime without this list being too technical. This isn't a resume.
That's why we have google. You guys wrote a list on me like it was an infraction. I only changed Slice of Life because that makes sense.

The rest doesn't.

Come on, man. Don't be killjoys.
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Old 2016-01-10, 20:07   Link #66
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They are going to use a script to tally the votes. That's why the format is important. Use the Helper tool linked in the opening post, makes everything easy.
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Old 2016-01-10, 20:14   Link #67
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It's not about the helper tool. It's about being too detailed especially with the OP/ED. People can just look that up. It's not that hard.
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Old 2016-01-10, 20:48   Link #68
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It's not about the helper tool. It's about being too detailed especially with the OP/ED. People can just look that up. It's not that hard.
Not sure whether was it because you did not understand my post or just read the last sentence given the response you made; but I can see how you might have missed what was written in the long opening post, so let me just quote the most important part in response to your gripe.
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Originally Posted by Haak View Post
~ snipped ~

Vote tallying is automated so pay attention!

~ snipped ~
The main point of my post that you might have missed or misunderstood.
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Originally Posted by larethian View Post
They are going to use a script to tally the votes. That's why the format is important.
Sure, they can look it up and manually fix the 'error' the tool/script will generate with your formatting. But surely, it's easier for you to follow the formatting than the organizers (doing this for free), manually fixing every malformed votes for several voters, isn't it? After all, it's not that hard to look things up.
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Old 2016-01-10, 20:59   Link #69
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I know it's not hard to look things up. I appreciate your post, but I'm not gonna change a thing.
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Old 2016-01-10, 22:52   Link #70
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I know it's not hard to look things up. I appreciate your post, but I'm not gonna change a thing.
Hey, man. Do the organizers of this event a favor by voting according to the rules, ok? I mean, how can a person be so lazy to the point of not wiling to look up his/her own favorite shows when it comes to voting? Now you want the organizers (who are working on this for free) to spoon-feed you too? Sheesh...
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Old 2016-01-11, 05:50   Link #71
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It's not about the helper tool. It's about being too detailed especially with the OP/ED. People can just look that up. It's not that hard.
People can indeed look things up (except for information given on an opening post - that seems to be much more difficult). However, the difficulty of such a task can vary depending on how much requires looking up and how vague/incorrect the vote is. I'm sure you can imagine how much more difficult it would be if we were forced to correct and/or look up a potential of 132 entries by ourselves (and that's just one out of the 22 categories). This is why we generally ask for the voters cooperation and format their votes in a specific way so that an automated system can count it for us. And whilst a person can look it up, automated counting system may be more limited on what it can do, so it produces an error log. But as stated in the opening post:

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Originally Posted by Haak View Post
But I'm bad at writing!

Don't worry, most people make some kind of typo or mistake. We know, we've seen plenty; including our own.

What you should know,
  • We have created a Handy Helper for specific purpose of making it easier for you to format your choices.

  • Errors are checked by humans! The tally is automated, but any errors or "potentially confusing" entries are resolved by us (the organizers). So, with the exception of obscure references, nothing that you would write in an average post would ever count as an error.

  • We periodically post an error report with whatever made it past our eyes and research. The report contains detailed information on where, and why. And don't fret if you're on it, (if possible) other categories and valid series in the problem category will all be counted just fine.

    Though if you got an error on your first 2pt entry, the 2nd and 3rd in that category will still be worth 1pt (because they're still your 2nd and 3rd choice).

What does the error report usually consist of? Well from last year, typically...
  • clear rule violation, such as voting for Movies in a TV category

  • very obscure series aliases, more often character names

  • overly malformed posts; typically incorrectly formatted song categories, or character categories without the series name. On occasion failure to copy/paste the categories tags altogether

  • and sometimes (rarely) ineligible series get nominated

That's about all of them. See, you don't have to worry about your typing being a problem.
So if you've made an error, there's no need to worry. We do our best to make sure they're counted as correctly as possible. If neccessary I'll even contact you for clarification. But we are human and we can make mistakes too. Following the format also benefits you because it means there's less chance of an error in our final count and we can tell you about other mistakes quicker so you have more time change your vote if need be.

This is, however, the first instance I've come across of a person who refuses to follow the format asked of them and it certainly isn't an attitude I'd like to encoruage because it would make our tasks more difficult. Other people have made the effort of cooperating with us and following the format. Don't you think it would be a little unfair on them if I were to make exceptions now? Above all we just want everyone to have fun so if you don't want to change your format, I won't force you to. All I ask is that you don't refuse to do so in the future.

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Old 2016-01-11, 06:33   Link #72
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-{A1}- [Best Storyline & Plot] One Punch Man, Show By Rock!!
-{A2}- [Best Visuals & Animation] Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works

-{B1}- [Best Action-Adventure] One Punch Man,
-{B2}- [Best Fantasy & Supernatural] Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works, Overlord, Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya 2wei Herz!
-{B3}- [Best Science Fiction] Rakuen Tsuihou: Expelled from Paradise
-{B4}- [Best Drama] Charlotte, Yuri Kuma Arashi, Hibike! Euphonium
-{B5}- [Best Romance]
-{B6}- [Best Comedy] Yuru Yuri San☆Hai!, Kekkai Sensen
-{B7}- [Best Slice of Life] Koufuku Graffiti, Hello!! Kiniro Mosaic
-{B8}- [Best Sports Series]

-{C1}- [Best TV Series] Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya 2wei Herz!, Charlotte, Ansatsu Kyoushitsu (TV)
-{C2}- [Best OVA] Strike Witches: Operation Victory Arrow, Haiyore! Nyaruko-san F, Yuru Yuri Nachuyachumi!
-{C3}- [Best Movie] Dragon Ball Z Movie 15: Fukkatsu no F, Rakuen Tsuihou: Expelled from Paradise, Omoide no Marnie

-{D1}- [Best Female Lead] Leopard (Yoru no Yatterman), Illyasviel von Einzbern (Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya 2wei Herz!)
-{D2}- [Best Male Lead] Nagisa Shiota (Ansatsu Kyoushitsu (TV))
-{D3}- [Best Antagonist] Gilgamesh (Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works)
-{D4}- [Best Side-Character] Archer (Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works)
-{D5}- [Best World Setting] Charlotte
-{D6}- [Best Credits Theme] Kekkai Sensen ED1, One Punch Man OP1, Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya 2wei Herz! OP1
-{D7}- [Best Soundtrack] Charlotte, Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works
-{D8}- [Best Ongoing Series] Utawarerumono: Itsuwari no Kamen

I hope that I typed that right...
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Old 2016-01-11, 14:59   Link #73
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People can look up the name of the characters [...]
I do actually look up the character names quite a lot. I think I added like at least 20 aliases just for characters (a lot involving going though spoilers on various wikis to get the reference) and there's been at least 1 instance of a character I had to pm some of the other organizers to figure it out.

It's true that quite a lot character names (in particular lead characters) are relatively unique (almost like branding) and so might come up in a google search, however that's not always the case or guaranteed by anything. There's no rule that says no series can reuse character names that some other series used (it's only within the context of the series that the character is unique). People often also don't know the character's full name, or even their canonical name, or simply typo the name, or used a unique spelling of the name (Su-won, Soo Won, etc) and *I* (or the other organizers for that matter) don't necessarily have universal knowledge of a name so even a simple name like Maya is a nightmare to google for. (Google doesn't have a filter by series on our elligible list either)

While running the scripts takes seconds, configuring everything so they actually understand everyones abbreviations and aliases and typos and honest mistakes get fixed with out their involvement already takes hours.... and yes the scripts themselves do a ton of auto-correcting themselves already (thank god!). So unfortunately we dont really have either the time or wish to risk encouraging troublesome behavior.

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or OP/ED for any anime without this list being too technical.
I understand that for long series (ones with 9 opening and whatnot) the actual number corresponding to the ending/opening can be a bit tricky, but for most shows you have just 1-2 endings/openings. So it's really the most minimal amount of information:
  • what series
  • opening or endings?
  • first or second one? etc (you can actually omit the number and we take it as meaning first one)

I feel like a lot of people interpret it as "voting for the song" but thats not how the category works. If you wish to vote for the musical score (even if for you thats just one special song) simply vote the entire series in the soundtrack category. What you're voting is the entire opening and the entire ending. So what this means is:
  • even if an ending is just a slight variation of the song of the previous ending its considered seperate ending/opening
  • it doesn't matter if the full song sucks or is the best thing ever; you're voting for how good 1:30 - 2:00 opening slice/remix of it is
  • even if only the visuals change it can be considered a seperate ending/opening and you can vote for it if you want (we will usually merge them if they're too similar though)
  • even if there was no song at all, just visuals, it would still count

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You guys wrote a list on me like it was an infraction.
As mentioned in the first post, everything thats not mentioned on the error list is counted. And even if a category is mentioned on the error list it doesn't (necessarily) mean all votes from that category were not counted, just that we encountered issues with counting some of your votes. So really, it's technically just a small fraction of the post that wasn't counted.

I'm sorry, but even looking characters and series is time consuming enough, dealing with "song names" is not only beyond what we even asked for, it's a giant time sinks of hours and hours. And since we allow post editing until the final tally I could spend 1h and 30min somehow finding your song/series association, for which there is no reliable resource, only to find you changed it while I was looking it up. It's especially grim when you consider I need to reverse compute what op/ed that even was you were thinking of—for which there is even less reliable resources for.

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Come on, man. Don't be killjoys.
Early on votes were manually counted. Early iterations only really had some of the genre categories along with best female / male, much less people voting and no special rules (because it's extremely hard to enforce the rules manually—think how hard it is to check the 2 genre rule manually). The contest went though several organizers; even the head organizers didn't last. We're the 3rd to pick it up (I think). At one point the contest was even abandoned half way and almost all manual counting iterations have the "once you post its counted and can't be taken back" (though even manually counting as the contest goes on is troublesome—you're not actually doing less work afterall).

So how much work is it to count a simplified version of what we have now? 7 people splitting the categories between themselves.... 1week if I recall. Not to mention the giant headaches involved in counting and counting and counting over and over (psychological torturous the bigger the contest gets; very likely the main reason previous organizers have abandoned it). You might think a human can do a better job, but aside from having a more lenient eye with formatting the human will just stick everything in one list and maybe merge series that are actually the same. And when it comes to characters and songs... first of all a human would never do it by hand (the work is insane), and even if they did, anything that looks annoying will just get ignored (no fancy list of errors either). You can be a saint and you might not last 2-3 days before annoying things just get ignored.

The scripts have full knowledge of all the possible series names and all the possible character names in those series (some can have 30+), how much do you think a human can keep in his head at once? we waste a lot of time dealing with some issues and we just deal with the very precise issues. The scripts can enforce rules fairly, don't make mistakes, take seconds to re-run (once you get the little things out of the way) and doesn't kill us to keep the contest going year after year. A good trade of for a bit of annoyance with formatting I would say.
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Old 2016-01-11, 15:47   Link #74
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I feel like a lot of people interpret it as "voting for the song" but thats not how the category works. If you wish to vote for the musical score (even if for you thats just one special song) simply vote the entire series in the soundtrack category. What you're voting is the entire opening and the entire ending. So what this means is:
  • even if an ending is just a slight variation of the song of the previous ending its considered seperate ending/opening
  • it doesn't matter if the full song sucks or is the best thing ever; you're voting for how good 1:30 - 2:00 opening slice/remix of it is
  • even if only the visuals change it can be considered a seperate ending/opening and you can vote for it if you want (we will usually merge them if they're too similar though)
  • even if there was no song at all, just visuals, it would still count
While that's how I interpreted it, it's pretty common for openings to have sight changes, and if I miss one I might miscount and nominate the wrong opening. We have an extreme example this year with Gakkou Gurashi, which I actually nominated in the category. I nominated OP1, but that's - strictly speaking - not true. I actually nominated the opening as it evolved over the course of the show, since that was an excellent accomplishment. Voting for any one episode's iteration would be besides the point.

I'm not sure how to handle that, so I'll leave it at OP1.
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I'm just posting to add a positive note to this conversation: My most sincere thanks to Haak, felix and everyone else who makes these awards possible. I'm not exaggerating when I say that participating in this is one of the things I most look forward to each year. Its rather fun to see what everyone else here on the forum felt were the best shows of the last 12 months and it really helps to find those gems I missed from the previous seasons.

In fact I think I stumbled upon these forums because I was looking for shows to watch and saw a list with some of the winners from the earlier iterations of these awards.

So yeah, I just make a mental note to leave my humble thanks to the good folks who keep these awards running. If I can help with anything feel free to ask
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-{A1}- [Best Storyline & Plot] Aquarion Logos
-{A2}- [Best Visuals & Animation] Aquarion Logos

-{B1}- [Best Action-Adventure] Fafner Exodus
-{B2}- [Best Fantasy & Supernatural] Maria The Virgin Witch, Genesis of Aquarion Love (aka Sousei no Aquarion Evol)
-{B3}- [Best Science Fiction] Fafner Exodus
-{B4}- [Best Drama] Aldnoah.Zero
-{B5}- [Best Romance] Aquarion Logos, Genesis of Aquarion Love (aka Sousei no Aquarion Evol)
-{B6}- [Best Comedy] Aquarion Logos
-{B7}- [Best Slice of Life] got none
-{B8}- [Best Sports Series] got none

-{C1}- [Best TV Series] Aquarion Logos
-{C2}- [Best OVA] Genesis of Aquarion Love (aka Sousei no Aquarion Evol)
-{C3}- [Best Movie] got none

-{D1}- [Best Female Lead] Akira Kaibuki (Aquarion Logos)
-{D2}- [Best Male Lead] Kanon Memphis (Fafner in The Azure: Exodus)
-{D3}- [Best Antagonist] Nesta (Aquarion Logos)
-{D4}- [Best Side-Character] Karen Uminagi (Aquarion Logos)
-{D5}- [Best World Setting] Aquarion Logos
-{D6}- [Best Credits Theme] Aquarion Logos OP#1 (Yamaidare darlin' ) and ED#1 (Je t'aime Communication)
-{D7}- [Best Soundtrack] Aquarion Logos
-{D8}- [Best Ongoing Series] Ushio and Tora

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Thanks Dextro. But its actually more then just me and Haak who deal with things that come up.

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While that's how I interpreted it, it's pretty common for openings to have sight changes, and if I miss one I might miscount and nominate the wrong opening. We have an extreme example this year with Gakkou Gurashi, which I actually nominated in the category. I nominated OP1, but that's - strictly speaking - not true. I actually nominated the opening as it evolved over the course of the show, since that was an excellent accomplishment. Voting for any one episode's iteration would be besides the point. If we can we consult one of the organizers who's extremely familiar with the show, but that's not always an option for all series.

I'm not sure how to handle that, so I'll leave it at OP1.
Yeah, like I said, if we become aware of two entries being extremely similar we'll merge or coerce one into the other. That said cases like that are quite troublesome, since we cant really tell which one you're really voting for with out directly bothering you about which one you actually wanted... it gets out of hand as soon as there's too many cases like that.

One possible solution is to change OP/ED to Series With Best Songs since there are quite a few cases of series that besides the OP/ED have one or several really good song segments (we've actually had to deal with a case recently); and I think most people either care for only for the songs, or care mainly for the songs when judging. At least, that's my impression. This would simplify the category greatly since it would no longer require any special rules.... you just vote a series. I can have the scripts still parse ED# and OP# and display which ones were chosen in the final result but they would obviously be optional and just a fancy notation for people who dont want to be ambiguous with their votes. Since everything would be counted as one it won't matter if you get the wrong number or if you don't specify anything more then the series name (we'll just assume you're voting for an insert song).

It might seem like a big change, but a lot of those songs are a lot of the times pseudo-endings/openings (by reuse or the episode just ending/starting on them), and in addition, there's actually very little overlap usually. It's not that a series never get nominations of different OP/ED but rather that it seems to happen very rarely and all the work and trouble involved may be too much work for little to no benefit (compared to the amalgamation alternative). This solves practically all corner cases too: OP that are also ED songs, OP/ED that are just very very subtly different, confusion on which number a OP is counted as, etc etc

For reference, the count when I posted the error log earlier for OP/ED looks like this:
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I'm just gonna leave this here, since the OP/ED category has actually been on the "chopping block" for a while, but mainly maintained due to popularity. We'll probably have to re-asses it (again) since it's been the topic of debate (again) so if everyone wants to add any ideas or their feelings, expectations, what they like and what they don't like about it, feel free to do so. Just bear in mind solutions involving splitting it into multiple categories are very very very very unlikely to pass; unless it involves removing another category to do it.
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Similar to your Series With Best Songs idea, how about simplifying the category to Series With Best Credits Sequences/Themes? You wouldn't have to deal with specific openings/endings then, or all the switcheroos that go on, because you would be taking all of the sequences within that specific series. It wouldn't really include the other song-including segments you're talking about, but I think if you did that you would have a lot more potential of having too much overlap between the category and Best Soundtrack.

I really like this category and would rather not see it disappear or melt into another. And I'm also going to go ahead and throw this out there: when I nominate/vote in that category, I'm thinking of the whole package. Music, visuals, how they relate to the story and how well they go with each other. I can only speak for myself, though, and I do realize I might be an exception.
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Old 2016-01-12, 06:35   Link #79
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I prefer the current system for voting OPs and EDs. There are many anime which for example have a standout excellent first OP but a bad or unremarkable second OP and EDs. There is a whole art to making great credits themes and I like how the current system reflects ASuki's opinions on them. The current system allows us to point out specifically the best ones, which is more interesting than just a whole series' music which the "best soundtrack" category already covers.

Plus, pointing out an outstanding OP or ED can get curious people to watch it, which might interest them in picking up a series.
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-{A1}- [Best Storyline & Plot]
  • Omoide no Marnie
  • Shirobako
  • Death Parade

-{A2}- [Best Visuals & Animation]
  • Love Live! The School Idol Movie
  • Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works
  • Hibike! Euphonium

-{B1}- [Best Action-Adventure]
  • Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works
  • Rakuen Tsuihou: Expelled from Paradise
  • Noragami Aragoto

-{B2}- [Best Fantasy & Supernatural]
  • Owarimonogatari
  • Overlord
  • Noragami Aragoto

-{B3}- [Best Science Fiction]
  • Aldnoah.Zero
  • Kantai Collection: KanColle
  • Kiseijuu: Sei no Kakuritsu

-{B4}- [Best Drama]
  • Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso
  • Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku
  • Kiseijuu: Sei no Kakuritsu

-{B5}- [Best Romance]
  • Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso
  • Plastic Memories
  • Ore Monogatari!

-{B6}- [Best Comedy]
  • Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka??
  • Hello!! Kiniro Mosaic
  • Working!!!

-{B7}- [Best Slice of Life]
  • Non Non Biyori Repeat
  • Shirobako
  • Working!!!

-{B8}- [Best Sports Series]
  • Kuroko no Basket 3rd Season

-{C1}- [Best TV Series]
  • Owarimonogatari
  • The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls
  • Shirobako

-{C2}- [Best OVA]
  • Suisei no Gargantia: Meguru Kouro, Haruka
  • Little Witch Academia: Mahou Shikake no Parade

-{C3}- [Best Movie]
  • Love Live! The School Idol Movie
  • Omoide no Marnie
  • Rakuen Tsuihou: Expelled from Paradise

-{D1}- [Best Female Lead]
  • Uzuka Shimamura / The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls
  • Honoka Kousaka / Love Live! The School Idol Movie
  • Reina Kousaka / Hibike! Euphonium

-{D2}- [Best Male Lead]
  • Tetsuya Kuroko / Kuroko no Basket 3rd Season
  • Momonga / Overlord
  • Hachiman Hikigaya / Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku

-{D3}- [Best Antagonist]
  • Ryouko Tamiya / Kiseijuu: Sei no Kakuritsu
  • Seijuurou Akashi / Kuroko no Basket 3rd Season
  • Ougi Oshino / Owarimonogatari

-{D4}- [Best Side-Character]
  • Ryoko Asakura / Nagato Yuki-chan no Shoushitsu
  • Asuka Tanaka / Hibike! Euphonium
  • Asako Kusakabe / Grisaia no Rakuen

-{D5}- [Best World Setting]
  • Overlord
  • Gakkougurashi!
  • Non Non Biyori Repeat

-{D6}- [Best Credits Theme]
  • Owarimonogatari OP1
  • Kantai Collection: KanColle ED1
  • Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso OP1

-{D7}- [Best Soundtrack]
  • Kiseijuu: Sei no Kakuritsu
  • Hibike! Euphonium
  • Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso

-{D8}- [Best Ongoing Series]
  • GATE
  • Gakuen Toshi Asterisk

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