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kyle1281989 · 2016-01-13, 20:21

Got my copy of the FT artbook.

Do NOT buy the book if your looking for gundam artwork. Only WZC and Epyon's heads are shown... all the gundam's even in the book covers are omitted.

The book is gorgeous though. Satin pages with high-quality glossy ink. Everything is very crisps and has nice thick ink that at the right angles looks quite a bit thicker than the pages.

Almost all the b/w pictures in the novels are blown up and in full color. A lot of the covers have had there characters rearranged so they are more visible. Sadly none of the gundams in the covers make it... all the cover images are pretty much put infront of a white background with the exception of Vol.10's cover (black wing zero) which is on a black background. Really annoying for such an otherwise great book. Also dissapointed we don't get full sized original version of the cover's without the text overlays. The orginal covers are only present in the form of 1x1 inch thumbnails on the last few pages though.

I also don't see any new images, maybe the one from Endless Waltz with the preventor uniforms... but, nothing special.

Annoyed and glad this series is over though. Hopefully we get something better the next go around... hoping for GOL to continue past the TV series or something. :/

https://rokkustudio.wordpress.com/20...-the-artworks/

Maybe I missed it but, I'm surprized the bs artwork from vol 12 of Gundams Promqueen and Gundam Slippershade wasn't shown...

LanceDark · 2016-01-15, 21:25

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Originally Posted by kyle1281989

Got my copy of the FT artbook.

Do NOT buy the book if your looking for gundam artwork. Only WZC and Epyon's heads are shown... all the gundam's even in the book covers are omitted.

The book is gorgeous though. Satin pages with high-quality glossy ink. Everything is very crisps and has nice thick ink that at the right angles looks quite a bit thicker than the pages.

The character design is awesome, though it would be great if we can get a NEW MS designs *sigh*

Thanks for sharing the pics!

Rising Dragon · 2016-01-15, 21:36

Character design is unchanged. I'm not giving it a pass when every new character looks the freakin' same as the old ones.

Eeni · 2016-01-16, 14:38

Well, it's 2016 and we can try to forget the past 5 years of "maybe a Gundam Wing sequel." I mean, seriously, pretty pictures and no story can only get you so far. If they really wanted to make a sequel, I suggest digging really deeply on FF.net, there are some jems in there.

The 48th Ronin · 2016-01-17, 00:27

At this point I rather want to see a remake than a sequel.

Skye629 · 2016-01-17, 07:13

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At this point I rather want to see a remake than a sequel.

Yeah, they better animate GoTL, or I'll be sad

peachandbetty · 2016-01-17, 13:12

Because I never really got to know the detail of FT beyond the summaries, I kinda of want to see it animated or at least translated just for clarity's sake.

But if given the choice, yes, I'd much prefer a remake of GW in modern day art styles and graphics.

On the proviso that Septum's VA makes a comeback with his dulcet tones.

The American Average · 2016-01-17, 23:07

A GOL Anime would be glorious. then have to flow into EW as a "season 2" then have it fit into FT better. of course have FT be something different than the novel. the idea of clones, gender-bent characters, and long lost look a likes is way silly to me.

LanceDark · 2016-01-24, 22:53

So, uhm... guys, what should we do now?

The 48th Ronin · 2016-01-25, 09:26

Wait for complete (English) translations, I guess.

Rainforce · 2016-01-25, 09:50

GOL, Zechs remember piloting Satan in FT flashback. Relena becomes queen

Rising Dragon · 2016-01-25, 22:40

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Originally Posted by Rainforce

GOL, Zechs remember piloting Satan in FT flashback. Relena becomes queen

Piloting Satan? First time I've heard of such a mobile suit name. Is that not the Warlock in Fenrir mode?

Also, what's the deal with that Fluegel!Wing Zero?

Skye629 · 2016-01-27, 06:03

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Piloting Satan? First time I've heard of such a mobile suit name. Is that not the Warlock in Fenrir mode?

Also, what's the deal with that Fluegel!Wing Zero?

Wing Zero customized by Zechs in the hobby magazine, don't think its anything canon to GoTL or FT, just a custom model using the RG as the base

LanceDark · 2016-01-27, 07:48

is that the Snow White?

The American Average · 2016-01-27, 22:55

I love the fact they gave Heero a Silencer for his gun. Bugged me in the original that he'd try to kill the new queen of the world with an un-silenced gun.

Eeni · 2016-01-29, 01:59

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Piloting Satan? First time I've heard of such a mobile suit name. Is that not the Warlock in Fenrir mode?

It certainly looks like it could be Warlock in Fenrir mode (at least from the descriptions we've been given). When did Zechs even find out it had existed. Or maybe its Quince remembering it? But that can't be in the past because Warlock is in the future... unless Wayvrn had a beast mode..?

Crysalles · 2016-01-29, 08:07

Only to remember White Snow...

coldzero · 2016-02-03, 22:32

I recently just found out about the ending and I got to say I'm a HxR shipper for the longest time. That was probably the best outcome I heard from this most convoluted story line that I actually don't know the whole story of because I lost track half way but the ending the only attention grabber for me. Soooo if I rmbr properly HxR is still super young compare to the rest of the G-pilots... now that another 0.0..

... and they live on Mars lol I always enjoy the futuristic Gundam world. And what is this whole dumb down to being a regular human being the Peacecrafts have become. Zechs a farmer on Mars - I guess it goes to show in psychology talk, once your entire life has been at the very top than everyone else - the very next step is to reverse the pyramid and live the basic lifestyle. Can't they be neighbours with the Yuy's? XD But no, the Yuy's got a garden instead.

Great to hear it finish. Well I always thought the plot line is very well written though of course their the odd WTH moments but I think Gwing had less to (e.g. Seed - never understood how Kira had a 180 personality change in Destiny) has a nice crafted and symbolic story line. Regardless, Gwing is my fav. series of all time! Damn, makes me feel nostalgic i'm so old now from my childhood days. 15+ years of fandom to wait to hear this.

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2016-02-03, 23:37

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Originally Posted by coldzero

Well I always thought the plot line is very well written though of course their the odd WTH moments but I think Gwing had less to (e.g. Seed - never understood how Kira had a 180 personality change in Destiny) has a nice crafted and symbolic story line.

I initially wanted to leave your comment alone, but since you played the comparison game and said that Wing’s story is better than SEED, I have to say I strongly disagree. Not after I re-watched the series and realized how bad and ridiculous the story is (see my previous posts in previous pages if you want me to elaborate). Story-wise, SEED is (much) better-written than Wing. Yes, it borrows some elements from MSG (which is done intentionally as it was meant as franchise refresher for the millennium audience), but every Gundam series did that to a certain extent. And I’d take a well-written borrowed-story over badly-written original story anytime.

You’d think this sentiment comes from a Wing-hater, but no. As I said in previous pages, Gundam Wing is my first Gundam as a child in the 90s and it’s the reason I fell in love and got into the franchise. But sometimes, we have to grow up and take off that thick nostalgia goggles when the time comes to judge a show objectively. I did that some time ago by slowly-but-surely re-watching Wing (I did that coz the Blu-ray came out and I wanted to know how it looks in hi-def). And to sum up my experience as an objective viewer but also someone who still want to like Wing: it is very close to painful. And that is after I excused the stock footage, bad and re-used animation. The overall execution is just tepid and dreary (ZZ and Victory actually look more detailed and varied and overall better-animated than Wing in most parts, not counting the OP & ED). The BGM is bad except for the theme songs and few selected tracks like the one they use for episode-preview (a far cry from SEED/Destiny’s excellent score). And you already know how I feel about the story and characters (see previous pages). To conclude my impression of the Wing TV series re-watching, I’ll just say this: I’d rather watch SEED Destiny Remaster again and again than watching Wing again. That’s how much I (don’t) enjoy Wing after applying my adult view on it.

Oh, and Kira didn't have 180 of personality in Destiny. His character is still his old self after he was saved by Lacus in SEED. It's just the writer made him mellower and more...what should I call it..."righteous" and "detached" and become more of a Gary Stu which is one of the problems in SEED Destiny.

Rising Dragon · 2016-02-04, 00:20

There's a reason MAHQ doesn't rate Gundam Wing very high and calls it a Cliff Notes of Gundam UC, right down to the mirror of the Axis drop. As for Kira's personality, in the original Destiny run you could make a bit of an argument that he's dealing with some form of shell-shock from the previous war to explain his detached behavior.

2016-01-13, 20:21	Link #6581
kyle1281989 Showtime! Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Earth	Got my copy of the FT artbook. Do NOT buy the book if your looking for gundam artwork. Only WZC and Epyon's heads are shown... all the gundam's even in the book covers are omitted. The book is gorgeous though. Satin pages with high-quality glossy ink. Everything is very crisps and has nice thick ink that at the right angles looks quite a bit thicker than the pages. Almost all the b/w pictures in the novels are blown up and in full color. A lot of the covers have had there characters rearranged so they are more visible. Sadly none of the gundams in the covers make it... all the cover images are pretty much put infront of a white background with the exception of Vol.10's cover (black wing zero) which is on a black background. Really annoying for such an otherwise great book. Also dissapointed we don't get full sized original version of the cover's without the text overlays. The orginal covers are only present in the form of 1x1 inch thumbnails on the last few pages though. I also don't see any new images, maybe the one from Endless Waltz with the preventor uniforms... but, nothing special. Annoyed and glad this series is over though. Hopefully we get something better the next go around... hoping for GOL to continue past the TV series or something. :/ https://rokkustudio.wordpress.com/20...-the-artworks/ Maybe I missed it but, I'm surprized the bs artwork from vol 12 of Gundams Promqueen and Gundam Slippershade wasn't shown... Last edited by kyle1281989; 2016-01-13 at 22:30.

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Eeni Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: refrigerator box	Well, it's 2016 and we can try to forget the past 5 years of "maybe a Gundam Wing sequel." I mean, seriously, pretty pictures and no story can only get you so far. If they really wanted to make a sequel, I suggest digging really deeply on FF.net, there are some jems in there. __________________ There was never a great talent without a bit of insanity. I don't think I've ever seen so much nonsense in so little space. -FalsePrime Stone Age man attempted to draw movement on cave walls by drawing mammoths with multiple legs. The artists worked until their eyes went bad, they got no pay, no credit, and they were eventually eaten by wild animals. Animation was born! - Tom Sito And as the Black Beast lurched forward, escape for Arthur and his knights seemed hopeless, when suddenly, the animator suffered a fatal heart attack! The cartoon peril was no more. The quest for the Holy Grail could continue. - Monty Python and the Holy Grail

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The 48th Ronin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Anywhere. I'm a nomad.	At this point I rather want to see a remake than a sequel. __________________ . "You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." .

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The American Average 2LMES Join Date: May 2012 Location: a comet that goes zooom!!!	A GOL Anime would be glorious. then have to flow into EW as a "season 2" then have it fit into FT better. of course have FT be something different than the novel. the idea of clones, gender-bent characters, and long lost look a likes is way silly to me. __________________

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peachandbetty Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2016	Because I never really got to know the detail of FT beyond the summaries, I kinda of want to see it animated or at least translated just for clarity's sake. But if given the choice, yes, I'd much prefer a remake of GW in modern day art styles and graphics. On the proviso that Septum's VA makes a comeback with his dulcet tones.

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LanceDark Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2015	So, uhm... guys, what should we do now?

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The 48th Ronin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Anywhere. I'm a nomad.	Wait for complete (English) translations, I guess. __________________ . "You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." .

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Rainforce Banned Join Date: Apr 2015	GOL, Zechs remember piloting Satan in FT flashback. Relena becomes queen

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LanceDark Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2015	is that the Snow White?

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The American Average 2LMES Join Date: May 2012 Location: a comet that goes zooom!!!	I love the fact they gave Heero a Silencer for his gun. Bugged me in the original that he'd try to kill the new queen of the world with an un-silenced gun. __________________

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Crysalles Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2015	Only to remember White Snow...

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coldzero Member Join Date: Dec 2003	I recently just found out about the ending and I got to say I'm a HxR shipper for the longest time. That was probably the best outcome I heard from this most convoluted story line that I actually don't know the whole story of because I lost track half way but the ending the only attention grabber for me. Soooo if I rmbr properly HxR is still super young compare to the rest of the G-pilots... now that another 0.0.. ... and they live on Mars lol I always enjoy the futuristic Gundam world. And what is this whole dumb down to being a regular human being the Peacecrafts have become. Zechs a farmer on Mars - I guess it goes to show in psychology talk, once your entire life has been at the very top than everyone else - the very next step is to reverse the pyramid and live the basic lifestyle. Can't they be neighbours with the Yuy's? XD But no, the Yuy's got a garden instead. Great to hear it finish. Well I always thought the plot line is very well written though of course their the odd WTH moments but I think Gwing had less to (e.g. Seed - never understood how Kira had a 180 personality change in Destiny) has a nice crafted and symbolic story line. Regardless, Gwing is my fav. series of all time! Damn, makes me feel nostalgic i'm so old now from my childhood days. 15+ years of fandom to wait to hear this. __________________

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	There's a reason MAHQ doesn't rate Gundam Wing very high and calls it a Cliff Notes of Gundam UC, right down to the mirror of the Axis drop. As for Kira's personality, in the original Destiny run you could make a bit of an argument that he's dealing with some form of shell-shock from the previous war to explain his detached behavior. __________________