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Old 2016-02-18, 19:28   Link #641
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Looking at the preview again, I like the coming mini-arc, but I'm starting to dread how the forums will be next week. Something in the next episode is going to have a lot of so-called "anime-only" viewers spouting eerily "prescient" conspiracy theories... Mods be on your guards.

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Also, with this episode, it indirectly explains why Megumin did not use explosion during the lake purifying quest. She either already used explosion earlier in the day, or the lake was just not "big and hard" enough for her.
I think it more likely that it was the other way around. She was holding off on casting Explosion because she knew that Aqua would be taking her to blow up the castle again later. If she had already done it earlier in the day, one of them would have had to carry her. They went early enough in the day (more that seven hours before sundown) that she would not have had time to recover.

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She's a major deity, but of course not everyone worships her, she's not the only goddess there is after all. I was just wondering based on this episode if somebody would ever put two and two together and figure out that she's really the goddess of water, but it looks like the running joke her being not elegant and therefore couldn't possibly the goddess of water herself will continue until the end
She's not a major deity, or at least she isn't one in the sense that implies. This is gone into detail a bit moreso in a later arc, but take note of one thing. It has been established that there is a goddess Eris who is Aqua's junior goddess. Darkness is an adherent of hers, as was the priest who loaned Aqua money for the application fee. The local currency is even called the "eris". Yet we've never heard anyone even mention her superior, "The Goddess Aqua", other than Aqua herself and the aforementioned priest (again, of Eris), who simply admonished Aqua not to call herself a goddess.

Besides, they had her doing glorified job counseling. If that's considered "major deity" work on this world, then their pantheon must be the kind where everbody gets a trophy simply for finishing attending the race...

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Megumin can't get a drink which means she is underage. I was wondering why there is no common warning that under 21 can't drink alcohol. Which begs the question how old are Kazuma and Darkness?
It's mentioned fairly early on in the novels that there really is no official drinking age. They're just not letting her drink. Probably for two reasons. One, Kazuma (and to a lesser extent Aqua) is from a society that frowns on underage drinking (not that that stops himself from drinking, mind you), and he, at least, sees Megumin as a child (13, at the moment). Two, do they really want to risk the chuuni Explosion mage getting drunk?
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Old 2016-02-18, 19:58   Link #642
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Besides, they had her doing glorified job counseling. If that's considered "major deity" work on this world, then their pantheon must be the kind where everbody gets a trophy simply for finishing attending the race...
She was in charge of the souls of everyone who died on Earth. That's rather a bit more than "glorified job counseling" and we have no proof that that's all her job entailed. Eris probably handles that in this world, but I doubt that's the only thing she does either.

This is, fairly obviously, a world that is primarily devoted to Eris. Just because Aqua receives less worship than Eris in this world does not mean that Aqua is not a major goddess in terms of the overall pantheon, nor does it mean that Aqua is not senior to Eris in that pantheon. Since there are multiple worlds, the fact that the only one we've seen much of doesn't have many people who worship Aqua doesn't really tell us anything. There could be plenty of others where the Axis sect is the primary religion.
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Old 2016-02-18, 20:48   Link #643
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She was in charge of the souls of everyone who died on Earth. That's rather a bit more than "glorified job counseling" and we have no proof that that's all her job entailed. Eris probably handles that in this world, but I doubt that's the only thing she does either.

This is, fairly obviously, a world that is primarily devoted to Eris. Just because Aqua receives less worship than Eris in this world does not mean that Aqua is not a major goddess in terms of the overall pantheon, nor does it mean that Aqua is not senior to Eris in that pantheon. Since there are multiple worlds, the fact that the only one we've seen much of doesn't have many people who worship Aqua doesn't really tell us anything. There could be plenty of others where the Axis sect is the primary religion.
She was in charge of people who die young. In the manga and novel it is specifically people who die young in Japan. Certainly not "everyone who died on Earth", in any case. Her job was taken over by a rather generic-looking (if still cute) angel. And think about who she is and what her demeanor was even before Kazuma took her along with him, not to mention how quickly they replaced her. She was clearly dumped into that job. Heck, they probably put her in charge of Japan just to raise the possibility of an Oh! My Goddess! situation (if so, it worked).
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Old 2016-02-18, 21:39   Link #644
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That's interesting theory, mainly because it makes perfect sense.
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Old 2016-02-19, 02:32   Link #645
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Looking at the preview again, I like the coming mini-arc, but I'm starting to dread how the forums will be next week. Something in the next episode is going to have a lot of so-called "anime-only" viewers spouting eerily "prescient" conspiracy theories... Mods be on your guards.
If you know there are source readers hinting or 'speculating', just report it.
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Old 2016-02-19, 03:08   Link #646
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She's not a major deity, or at least she isn't one in the sense that implies. This is gone into detail a bit moreso in a later arc, but take note of one thing. It has been established that there is a goddess Eris who is Aqua's junior goddess. Darkness is an adherent of hers, as was the priest who loaned Aqua money for the application fee. The local currency is even called the "eris". Yet we've never heard anyone even mention her superior, "The Goddess Aqua", other than Aqua herself and the aforementioned priest (again, of Eris), who simply admonished Aqua not to call herself a goddess.

Besides, they had her doing glorified job counseling. If that's considered "major deity" work on this world, then their pantheon must be the kind where everbody gets a trophy simply for finishing attending the race...
The order of axis doesn't have a large presence in town, for all we know there might be a town somewhere with more Aqua worshipers or something, and it just so happened that this particular town has more Eris adherents.

If all of these has been explained in more detail in the source material then I have nothing more to add, all my ideas are based only on what has been shown in the anime so far.
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Old 2016-02-19, 06:37   Link #647
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So they went back to blowing up Dullahan castle? That's just cruel.

This episode, the show remembered that Aqua is overpowered as hell. I got a good laugh when she was complaining that turn undead has no effect while Dullahan was rolling in pain in the background.

And then was the flood. And resurrection. This game has serious balance problems.

Megumin looked so happy about blowing up so many enemies. Darkness looked happy for... different reasons.


You'd think actually accomplishing something meaningful and being praised by everybody would motivate Kazuma to continue being an adventurer, but nope, it's a lack of money that does the trick.
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Old 2016-02-19, 06:58   Link #648
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I'm wondering if the group gained a lot of levels for this. Aqua gave the final blow to Dullahan, so she should at least level up beyond level 1. Megumin blew up all those undead summons, and she probably did some damage on Dullahan. Darkness had a 1 on 1 match with Dullahan and took a lot of damage. Kazuma... well, he ran around a lot of managed to steal the head.

Ok, so besides Kazuma, shouldn't the rest of the group level up a bit?
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Old 2016-02-19, 08:52   Link #649
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You don't get exp by tanking (unless enemy die by impact), but yeah Aqua and Megumin get some levels from this.
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Old 2016-02-19, 10:22   Link #650
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makes me wonder what could have happened if Kazuma encountered Bell Cranel of DanMachi, or even worse, Aqua bumped into Hestia........
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Old 2016-02-19, 11:13   Link #651
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makes me wonder what could have happened if Kazuma encountered Bell Cranel of DanMachi, or even worse, Aqua bumped into Hestia........
Seriously? They're nothing alike. What did you imagine would happen?

Kazuma is the tricky, intelligent type. Bell is the honest straightfoward type. Also, Bell gets stronger with that skill he has, Kazuma has nothing like that.

Hestia is serious and hardworking and all over Bell, Aqua is clowning around, dumb and constantly at odds with Kazuma.
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Old 2016-02-19, 11:53   Link #652
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She was in charge of people who die young. In the manga and novel it is specifically people who die young in Japan. Certainly not "everyone who died on Earth", in any case. Her job was taken over by a rather generic-looking (if still cute) angel. And think about who she is and what her demeanor was even before Kazuma took her along with him, not to mention how quickly they replaced her. She was clearly dumped into that job. Heck, they probably put her in charge of Japan just to raise the possibility of an Oh! My Goddess! situation (if so, it worked).
Rather than that, I think Aqua sent Kazuma and Kyouya to that world as a way to shove her responsibilities to her kouhai Eris instead. If the way she sent Kyouya was any indication, it looked like Aqua really thought she wouldn't see them again the moment they left.
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Old 2016-02-19, 13:23   Link #653
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Seriously? They're nothing alike. What did you imagine would happen?

Kazuma is the tricky, intelligent type. Bell is the honest straightfoward type. Also, Bell gets stronger with that skill he has, Kazuma has nothing like that.

Hestia is serious and hardworking and all over Bell, Aqua is clowning around, dumb and constantly at odds with Kazuma.
Isn't that point though, nothing would happen if they were same, but just imagine Kazuma showing Bell ways if world and have him eagerly learn various dirty tricks without realisation...
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Old 2016-02-19, 13:57   Link #654
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That would harm him more than benefit as his growth is due to his skill.
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Makes you wonder who Darkness leveled up in the first place. She misses all her targets.
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Old 2016-02-19, 16:06   Link #656
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Makes you wonder who Darkness leveled up in the first place. She misses all her targets.
They die trying out of exhaustion.

Like when Homer tried boxing.
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Makes you wonder who Darkness leveled up in the first place. She misses all her targets.
there is such a thing as quest exp, you know
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Old 2016-02-19, 17:00   Link #658
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makes me wonder what could have happened if Kazuma encountered Bell Cranel of DanMachi, or even worse, Aqua bumped into Hestia........
Actually, I think they'd get along quite well, especially the two goddesses, who would likely spend most the time together drunk. Aqua would enjoy spending time with another "girly-girl" after being stuck with Megumin and Darkness for so long, especially one she can commiserate with about goddess stuff, and once Hestia realizes that Aqua has no designs on Bell, she should get along fine with her, as she's not all that dissimilar from her other goddess friends. Kazuma would initially disdain Bell for being a "normalfag", but given that Bell is nowhere near the insufferable "goody two-shoes" that Katsuragi is and is actually a really nice, genuine guy, he would eventually grow on Kazuma, who would still resent Bell somewhat for his relative perfection, but would greatly enjoy corrupting him and using him as a source for new hax skills. Bell likes everyone until given a reason not to, and Kazuma's initial dismissiveness would only make him try harder long enough for Kazuma to come around.

The problem relationships would be the other way. Bell likes everybody, but even he would be turned off a bit by Aqua's selfishness and lack of drive, and Aqua would see Bell as incredibly boring and would inherently mistrust his nice demeanor. Kazuma would see Hestia as stuck up, and Hestia would see Kazuma as an incurable lecher.

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there is such a thing as quest exp, you know
Not in this world there isn't.

The novel explains how XP can be gained without killing. The anime has hinted at it. In case they decide to eventually mention it outright, I'll say no more, but will answer in the LN thread if anyone asks.
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Old 2016-02-19, 17:29   Link #659
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since gintama I haven't seen an anime this funny, and they can get serious at least for a moment to show some good battle.

lol with the eye of mordor.
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Old 2016-02-19, 17:32   Link #660
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Actually, I think they'd get along quite well, especially the two goddesses, who would likely spend most the time together drunk. Aqua would enjoy spending time with another "girly-girl" after being stuck with Megumin and Darkness for so long, especially one she can commiserate with about goddess stuff, and once Hestia realizes that Aqua has no designs on Bell, she should get along fine with her, as she's not all that dissimilar from her other goddess friends. Kazuma would initially disdain Bell for being a "normalfag", but given that Bell is nowhere near the insufferable "goody two-shoes" that Katsuragi is and is actually a really nice, genuine guy, he would eventually grow on Kazuma, who would still resent Bell somewhat for his relative perfection, but would greatly enjoy corrupting him and using him as a source for new hax skills. Bell likes everyone until given a reason not to, and Kazuma's initial dismissiveness would only make him try harder long enough for Kazuma to come around.

The problem relationships would be the other way. Bell likes everybody, but even he would be turned off a bit by Aqua's selfishness and lack of drive, and Aqua would see Bell as incredibly boring and would inherently mistrust his nice demeanor. Kazuma would see Hestia as stuck up, and Hestia would see Kazuma as an incurable lecher.

Tbh I believe Hestia would pity Kazuma for having to deal with such a useless goddess.
I mean Hestia is dirt poor, but at least she is hard working.
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