(L+CR) New Kino no Tabi: The Beautiful World (Kino's Journey)

[BloodyKitty]

Originally Posted by Dop

So it looks like they might be following the lead of the old series by not showing us Kino's back-story (which the first book started with) until a few episodes in?

In the Japanese version Kino's backstory is also shown later in Chapter 5 of the first book, and through interview with the author he intentionally did that to make a surprise to readers regarding Kino's identity. However the English version put that backstory as first chapter to clear up Kino's gender and make it easier for translation.

Originally Posted by Kanon

I'd consider this series a partial reboot, in that they'll try to make it friendly to new viewers by reintroducing the side characters and probably retelling Kino's backstory while at the same time limiting the numbers of "duplicate" episodes/stories as much as possible. I think the majority of episodes will be new, meaning the first series will still remain a must watch since it will have stories the new series will never adapt.

But maybe the list posted above proves me totally wrong.

You are correct, the list shows that only 3 stories from the previous anime series will be remade, one being the Colosseum arc as shown on ep 2 preview, and the other two showing the backstory of our main characters. Guess which stories they are , it's no brainer if you've seen the original.

[Dop]

Originally Posted by BloodyKitty

In the Japanese version Kino's backstory is also shown later in Chapter 5 of the first book, and through interview with the author he intentionally did that to make a surprise to readers regarding Kino's identity. However the English version put that backstory as first chapter to clear up Kino's gender and make it easier for translation

I'd not been aware of that, thanks. That just makes me wish more that maybe if the new anime does well someone (Vertical? Anyone?) will pick up the novels and give the one published before a better translation than Tokyopop usually did.

[xizro345]

Originally Posted by BloodyKitty

However the English version put that backstory as first chapter to clear up Kino's gender and make it easier for translation.

IIRC, the reshuffle of the chapters of the first book (something I find unforgivable, as much as TP's handling of other properties in the same period, like Seikai no Monsho) is rumored to be the reason no other English volumes were released, as supposedly it wasn't something the licensor approved.

As for the anime itself, I still have to adapt to the new look, feel, and VAs, but in general I think the new series is keeping the same feel, so I'm not complaining at all.

[MrTerrorist]

So i just saw the 1st episode for the 2017 anime.

I like the twist that in Country where Murder is legal, the law actually meant anyone trying to kill another for whatever reason is disturbing the peace and therefore the citizens are legally allowed to kill the troublemaker. I wonder if the gunslinger had not once consider that if murder is legal in that country, what's stopping another person in killing him as well?

[IceHism]

I enjoyed the show but it doesn't make good group watch material if it's just kino and motorcycle. Feels bad. Lol weird cult town

[Alchemist007]

First ep kept the atmosphere of the original series. I have a good feeling about this season.

[BBOvenGuy]

Crunchyroll elaborates on which stories are included in this series, and how they were chosen:

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-fea...-kinos-journey

[Kamieichi]

Well, in the end I thought 23 minutes was too short to adapt the "Colosseum" story into anime.

[Stark700]

This week's episode made me realize just how badass Kino can be especially with a gun.

The theme songs were great imo.

[BloodyKitty]

Well. That was terribly rushed. 1 episode alone really couldn't afford this story.

[Kanon]

The 2003 version of this story was infinitely better, it's obvious they only adapted that story again to introduce Shizu. The original had better world building (the tournament was about winning first class citizenship, which allowed you to live your life doing nothing while lower class citizens slaved away in the slums, which Kino visited), better characterization (the King didn't even speak here), better directing (the puppet theater being used as a way to tell us the King's story was more entertaining and creepy than simply hearing about it from Hermes in passing) and better fights. I don't know what kind of role Shizu will play in future stories, but perhaps they could have found another way to introduce him.

I noticed they seem to be trying to hide Kino's gender as much as possible. The only hint so far was Riku saying something to Shizu that made him change the way he referred to her from "Kino-kun" to "Kino-san".

In both versions, the woman who lost her husband in the Colosseum remained a mystery to me. Why was she smiling, and why did she tell Kino to go to that country knowing full well what it was truly like?

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by Kanon

The 2003 version of this story was infinitely better, it's obvious they only adapted that story again to introduce Shizu. The original had better world building (the tournament was about winning first class citizenship, which allowed you to live your life doing nothing while lower class citizens slaved away in the slums, which Kino visited), better characterization (the King didn't even speak here), better directing (the puppet theater being used as a way to tell us the King's story was more entertaining and creepy than simply hearing about it from Hermes in passing) and better fights. I don't know what kind of role Shizu will play in future stories, but perhaps they could have found another way to introduce him.

I noticed they seem to be trying to hide Kino's gender as much as possible. The only hint so far was Riku saying something to Shizu that made him change the way he referred to her from "Kino-kun" to "Kino-san".

In both versions, the woman who lost her husband in the Colosseum remained a mystery to me. Why was she smiling, and why did she tell Kino to go to that country knowing full well what it was truly like?

I'd say the one thing that feels pretty clear to me is that woman. Having met Kino a few times she may have a grasp on how capable in a fight Kino is. My presumption would be that she knew what Kino would do and would be able to piece together what happened to her. Thus leading to Kino killing the King and bringing down the country that took everything away from that woman.

Though that she was smiling while doing so was an interesting thing. Either was hiding the anger and pain bubbling under the surface or was able to smile by imagining Kino bringing down those that cheered on the death of her husband. Though I suppose a more positive interpretation is that she was happy to know that soon no one would have to go through what she did in that country once Kino got there.

A pretty extreme move to basically use Kino as a weapon, but I can understand the motivations behind doing so.

[scififan]

Originally Posted by Kanon

I noticed they seem to be trying to hide Kino's gender as much as possible. The only hint so far was Riku saying something to Shizu that made him change the way he referred to her from "Kino-kun" to "Kino-san".

In both versions, the woman who lost her husband in the Colosseum remained a mystery to me. Why was she smiling, and why did she tell Kino to go to that country knowing full well what it was truly like?

First, the girl who was saved by Kino most likely inherits Kino's identity.

Second, Kino is pulled into a revenge plot.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

I'd say the one thing that feels pretty clear to me is that woman. Having met Kino a few times she may have a grasp on how capable in a fight Kino is. My presumption would be that she knew what Kino would do and would be able to piece together what happened to her. Thus leading to Kino killing the King and bringing down the country that took everything away from that woman.

From what we know, she's only briefly met Kino two times, and unless she happened to see her fighting, she'd have no idea how capable she is. Not to mention it's very hard to get a read on Kino, as she keeps to herself a lot and if she actually knew her well, she'd know she almost never acts based on her emotions (what happened in this episode was very much an exception). Kino most definitely did what she did to avenge her, but I'm not sure that was what the woman had in mind when she sent her there. Her smile is really throwing me off.

Anyone know when this story takes place chronologically? I'm thinking it might be the reason Kino never gets involved in the matters of the countries she visits. She seemed angry at herself afterward, and called revenge ludicrous.

[erneiz_hyde]

The first thing that came to my mind about that woman is that she sent Kino to her death. I think Kino realized this at some point and when Kino said to Shizu about how revenge is ludicrous, I believe she is saying that to herself as well since the whole reason she's fighting there was for revenge. So in the end was it revenge for the lady (for killing her husband) or for Kino herself (for being dragged into all this mess)? Then Kino came to the conclusion that the concept itself is ludicrous.

[Applehell]

Originally Posted by Kanon

The 2003 version of this story was infinitely better, it's obvious they only adapted that story again to introduce Shizu. The original had better world building (the tournament was about winning first class citizenship, which allowed you to live your life doing nothing while lower class citizens slaved away in the slums, which Kino visited), better characterization (the King didn't even speak here), better directing (the puppet theater being used as a way to tell us the King's story was more entertaining and creepy than simply hearing about it from Hermes in passing) and better fights. I don't know what kind of role Shizu will play in future stories, but perhaps they could have found another way to introduce him.

I noticed they seem to be trying to hide Kino's gender as much as possible. The only hint so far was Riku saying something to Shizu that made him change the way he referred to her from "Kino-kun" to "Kino-san".

In both versions, the woman who lost her husband in the Colosseum remained a mystery to me. Why was she smiling, and why did she tell Kino to go to that country knowing full well what it was truly like?

This starting to look a lot like FMA: Brotherhood now which had similar problems when came to covering the older material. I just hope the new stuff makes up for it like it did with that show which would make the sacrifices of the older stories more acceptable.

[SeaDoor]

Yeah, this was a remake of an episode from the earlier series. This version hit its conclusion way sooner than the earlier version and in the earlier version we got to know more about the country. The important parts I guess were meeting Shizu and the woman in white.

[HandofFate]

what's the difference between a motorcycle and and a motorad

[BloodyKitty]

To be fair to the new adaptation, the episode was more faithful to the novel, while the 2003 anime got 2 episodes and improved a lot on the source material by adding more characterization to the King and contestants and giving the King's story a better direction. The new anime still rushed a few things though, to be more specific:

- In the novel, right after entering the country, Kino was taken to the lodging cell and saw the poor citizens on the dirty streets, should have been some of whom couldn't win or refused the fights for high-class citizenship. In the new law that Kino cast upon the country after winning the fight with Shizu, Kino also added that people who don't want to fight can leave the country and forfeit citizenship, which can be because Kino have those people in mind when making the law, leaving the bloodthirsty high-class to fight among themselves.

- The fights with other contestants except Shizu were in some more details in the novel, and gave readers the sense of a colosseum tournament as Kino's opponents got stronger the further Kino got into it. The new anime breezed through the fights in favor of the fight with Shizu (a little too bad, as I like Kino's fight with the blond woman).

About the smiling widow, she is just as much as a mystery in any versions of the story. Though I used to have more of an inkling that in her grief of losing her husband she sent other travelers like Kino to a fate of death similar to her husband.

[ArrowSmith]

This adaptation seems darker then the 2003 version, more violent. I remember the 2003 version and it seemed more meditative.