Yuki Yuna Is a Hero: Hero Chapter (movie & TV) [Season 2]

[Infinite Zenith]

With this episode, the fire rises.

Spoiler for Episode content:

Looks like Yūna's in a bit of a bind, although it's hard to be certain if it's really an external influence or her jumping to conclusions too hastily.

[RDNexus]

Originally Posted by Infinite Zenith

With this episode, the fire rises.

Spoiler for Episode content:

Looks like Yūna's in a bit of a bind, although it's hard to be certain if it's really an external influence or her jumping to conclusions too hastily.

Spoiler:

Sounds like an external influence, maybe a curse or something, probably for having interrupted that thing with Tougou.

Guess anyone who thought Yuuna to be a hypocrite, could retract it by now.

Spoiler:

Her wanting to share the burden, only to see the others paying a toll is quite the shitty thing.
And Sonoko going around, figuring it out on her own...I don't know what to say of it.

[Infinite Zenith]

Originally Posted by xrick

Spoiler:

Sounds like an external influence, maybe a curse or something, probably for having interrupted that thing with Tougou.

Guess anyone who thought Yuuna to be an hypocrite, should retract it by now.

Spoiler:

Her wanting to share the burden, only to see the others paying a toll is quite the shitty thing.
And Sonoko going around, figuring it out on her own...I don't know what to say of it.

Well said.

Spoiler for Details:

It looks like she wants to share, but can't because of what she's seeing happen to her friends; Yūna is between a rock and a hard place, as it were, being immobilised by her commitment to the Hero Club tenants and wanting to minimise their suffering.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by xrick

Guess anyone who thought Yuuna to be a hypocrite, could retract it by now.

Actually, I think she's getting this sort of storyline because the staff were aware that Yuuna had a tendency to bear things alone instead of asking for help. And note she actually didn't want to tell anyone at first.

Now she's between a rock and a hard place, but I don't have any doubt talking to everyone is still the right thing to do.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Actually, I think she's getting this sort of storyline because the staff were aware that Yuuna had a tendency to bear things alone instead of asking for help. And note she actually didn't want to tell anyone at first.

Now she's between a rock and a hard place, but I don't have any doubt talking to everyone is still the right thing to do.

The apparent curse on the rest of the hero club is defnitely presenting itself to Yuuna as a clear pattern of escalation in response to her attempts to reveal the truth to them, though. Her first attempt caused everyone to suffer relatively minor but irritating cases of bad luck. Her second attempt resulted in Fuu getting hit by a car (a car that somehow broke through a shield designed to withstand a full power attack from a Vertex) and sent to the hospital for an undetermined amount of time. The message of "what do you think will happen if you try to tell someone again?" is coming across pretty clear.

Yes, they can't even try to do anything if they don't know about it, but if knowing about it could get them killed in ways that are not only unpredictable but which also should be impossible, what is she supposed to do?

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

The apparent curse on the rest of the hero club is defnitely presenting itself to Yuuna as a clear pattern of escalation in response to her attempts to reveal the truth to them, though.

Making things harder for the protagonist is the typical method of creating drama in any story. Only this time instead of fighting monsters, Yuuna has to tell her friends what's going on at the risk of getting them cursed. Still, without their help, there's no way she can solve this. Her scream loader and punch harder approach is useless in this situation.

what is she supposed to do?

"When you're troubled, talk to someone," said the hero tenets. It doesn't matter if they get cursed. In fact, getting to share the curse between many people instead of bearing it alone might actually be the way to stop it (or help mitigate its effects). Yuuna should trust her friends. They're heroes too.

If she doesn't, we're gonna get stuck in a vicious circle in which her friends find out on their own, go to save her and one of them (most likely Tougou) ends up taking the curse in her place, and we're back to square one. It's stupid. How do you break the vicious circle? Talking to your friends and working all together to find a way to stop the curse without sacrifices.

[RDNexus]

Maybe, now that Sonoko seems to have figured it out, it may be easier for Yuuna to blurt it all out.
Come on, you know quite well that many people would do the same if they were in Yuuna's position.
Or maybe the exact opposite, if that were to take the load off their back...

[Kazu-kun]

Of course. It's not like I don't get where she's coming from. No one wants to curse their friends.

Okay, maybe some people do.

[Sageblink]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

In fact, getting to share the curse between many people instead of bearing it alone might actually be the way to stop it (or help mitigate its effects).

It's probably what's going to happen. They'll each take a part of the curse.
OR, send it back to the Taisha...

[FlareKnight]

This situation is a bit harder to read or judge in comparison to what they went through before. There does seem to be a clear connection to her trying to talk about it and escalated incidents. Though in that sense it seems like a bandaid approach or doing nothing is best. Just explain the whole darn thing. Weak attempts to say something before pulling back is just creating an issue of escalation. She's not actually explaining anything and things are getting worse. Now of course just blurting the whole thing out could lead to a nightmarish situation, but hard to say. All we know is trying to say something, steadily makes things worse. Not as certain whether would be as bad or worse to just say the important bits at once.

Regardless it probably is too late for that anyways. If she tried that first it might have limited the issue, but at this point Fu has 2 negative incidents on her table. And we know what happened when she tried to say something a second time. Of course if the second attempt is only injured to that extent....

But yeah, I'd also go with the quiet route. After all while it is extremely unpleasant for Yuna, it seems like something endurable for the time being. It'd be nice if she could try to explain it in less obvious ways that could look for loopholes. But in that situation it is hard to take risks.

I think the best solution would be telling someone in that creepy organization and then having them tell the others. I don't feel bad about the potential hazards of telling someone in an organization that was willing to use the previous hero system. They put those kids through hell, they can at least take a risk for them. Or for a less dark attempt....just write it down in a notebook and 'leave' it to be found later. Obviously risks attached to that depending on how this darn thing works. But if it only 'curses' her friends if she actively tries to talk about it...that might work. It didn't do anything when she was thinking about talking to them, only when she took the step of speaking. Clearly it didn't care when she wrote down in the notebook her thoughts about what was happening to herself. So just forgetting her notebook in the clubroom might be safe.

[EroBotan]

Originally Posted by xrick

Maybe, now that Sonoko seems to have figured it out, it may be easier for Yuuna to blurt it all out.
Come on, you know quite well that many people would do the same if they were in Yuuna's position.
Or maybe the exact opposite, if that were to take the load off their back...

it's better for Yuuna to stay quiet and let Sonoko tell the others instead, XD. Sonoko is super impressive though .. for normal average human the best they can do is noticing that Yuuna has some problem and she is keeping it to herself, but Sonoko seems to be able to figure out the whole problem alone! The hint is super subtle too "when yuuna want to talk about something, everyone in that conversation get hurt" .. unless you're yuuna i believe catching this hint is super difficult with only 2 attempts ... might be easier to catch if there are more attempts but by that time everyone will most likely dead lol.

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

I think the best solution would be telling someone in that creepy organization and then having them tell the others. I don't feel bad about the potential hazards of telling someone in an organization that was willing to use the previous hero system. They put those kids through hell, they can at least take a risk for them. Or for a less dark attempt....just write it down in a notebook and 'leave' it to be found later. Obviously risks attached to that depending on how this darn thing works. But if it only 'curses' her friends if she actively tries to talk about it...that might work. It didn't do anything when she was thinking about talking to them, only when she took the step of speaking. Clearly it didn't care when she wrote down in the notebook her thoughts about what was happening to herself. So just forgetting her notebook in the clubroom might be safe.

the problem with "leaving the notebook in the clubroom" is the "might be safe" part which also means that "it might not be safe". I doubt that Yuuna will want to risk endangering her friends further (she already did it twice! and judging from the 2nd attempt's result, the 3rd one might be lethal).

So telling an unlucky taisha for experiments seems to be the best route lol. See what happen to him and act accordingly. Though the author most likely will not take that route since it will ruin the hero image xD! The heroes bully the taisa!

Edit: it will be nice if that mysterious taisha come to offer help to yuuna, like be genuinely useful for once!

[Random Wanderer]

Someone elsewhere pointed out something that makes me think Yuuna may have been intending to make another attempt rather a bit more subtle than leaving her notebook lying around. The pressed flowers that she dropped outside Fuu's room were christmas roses. In the language of the flowers they mean "relieve my anxiety." Yuuna specializes in flowers: there's no way she, of all people, didn't know what message she was sending there. That was a plea for help.

[EroBotan]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Someone elsewhere pointed out something that makes me think Yuuna may have been intending to make another attempt rather a bit more subtle than leaving her notebook lying around. The pressed flowers that she dropped outside Fuu's room were christmas roses. In the language of the flowers they mean "relieve my anxiety." Yuuna specializes in flowers: there's no way she, of all people, didn't know what message she was sending there. That was a plea for help.

Woaah, that's genius! You won't be able to understand hardcore stuff like this unless you're a flower otaku and i doubt that Shinju-sama is one! Plus the timing is during christmast season too for even more subtlety, clever!

[outlaw97]

Originally Posted by EroBotan

Woaah, that's genius! You won't be able to understand hardcore stuff like this unless you're a flower otaku and i doubt that Shinju-sama is one! Plus the timing is during christmast season too for even more subtlety, clever!

I'm surprised Togo didn't pick up on any signs that something was wrong, given how she feels about Yuna and how quickly she picked up on the signs of Sange in season 1.

[RDNexus]

That job was passed to Sonoko, so she wouldn't be just "another cute girl in the gang"

[Infinite Zenith]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Someone elsewhere pointed out something that makes me think Yuuna may have been intending to make another attempt rather a bit more subtle than leaving her notebook lying around. The pressed flowers that she dropped outside Fuu's room were christmas roses. In the language of the flowers they mean "relieve my anxiety." Yuuna specializes in flowers: there's no way she, of all people, didn't know what message she was sending there. That was a plea for help.

I'm curious, got a source for this bit of information?

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Infinite Zenith

I'm curious, got a source for this bit of information?

http://hananokotoba.com/the-language-of-flowers/#3 Scroll down a bit and it's there. If you're asking where I first heard this, it was from a discussion post for the episode on reddit.

[ArrowSmith]

Question - I'm on series 1, episode 3 or so. Does it ever get as good as Madoka Magica?

[EroBotan]

Originally Posted by ArrowSmith

Question - I'm on series 1, episode 3 or so. Does it ever get as good as Madoka Magica?

in terms of memorable dialog, madoka magica is better (homura's replies are always good).

Yuuki Yuuna has a much better slice of life part.

other stuff are relatively the same.

[tomexe]

Originally Posted by Sageblink

It's probably what's going to happen. They'll each take a part of the curse.
OR, send it back to the Taisha...

Spoiler for Spoiler for YuYuYui info:

If you have been following the people who are posting the video game animations, they already have had a case where they showed that Miko can purify things damaged by vertex. So, if Tougo goes and gets Aya from KuMeYu and the other 5 Miko whos lives she just saved the 7 or them might be able to cure Yuuna by doing a Kagura dance around her and bathing her