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In your analogy, if the body of esper with its own set of law, then the AIM radiation field od said esper is the law leaking out from the temple that's adopted much more loosely in the neighborhood. In AC, there's million of such temple, so the neighborhod's law in AC must have change unexplicably just from the loosely adopted laws from that millions of temple. How can magic's law still work on such neighborhood where the aw has transformed(not completely maybe, but still transformed from the leaked AIM)? |
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2012-12-12, 03:34 | Link #21842 | ||
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What you're thinking of is AIM field -> New Laws, but in fact what is happening is New Laws -> AIM field. What we've all been thinking was that AIM particle/energy/thingy is harmful to magic, but AIM by itself is not the least bit harmful at all (In fact it's main characteristic is to be unassuming and weak) when I went back to check all the text regarding Imaginary Number District and the only thing they have mentioned to be harmful is the New Laws (Correct me if I missed out something). Then what makes the AIM field of Imaginary Number District different? I would say that it's more structured and resembling of a 'World/Plane/Dimension', rather than a collection of random powers, and how that is accomplished is by certain inputs into Kazakiri, via Last Order or some other individual/object with a link to the Imaginary Number District. Basically, introducing a stimulus Quote:
...How does that sound ?
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The way I believe the effect works is like this: What makes magicians go haywire isn't the AIM field, but the Five Layer System, which uses AIM. If it was the AIM what created the effect by itself, there would have been no need to use LO in the first place. Also, within regular espers, it is not the AIM what makes them incompatible with magic, but their Personal Reality. |
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2012-12-12, 09:44 | Link #21845 | |
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2012-12-12, 15:42 | Link #21846 |
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The full name is Imaginary Number District - Five Element Institution; the AIM field created by all of the city's Espers by itself is completely harmless, but when the right stimulus (codes) get input into it, the whole thing becomes a separate dimension with it's own laws (sort of a Personal Reality I guess?) and those screw with the existing magic laws in the area.
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2012-12-13, 02:41 | Link #21848 | |
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Putting aside the whole 'unable to predict' part of it, the first problem is that unlike 0930, it's kinda hard to hide your giant glowing Angel wings from everyone in the city- granted at this point it might seem unnecessary to hide it but I think it would cause tons of little problems if the public becomes too aware of things. But an even bigger problem is unless he has another means to input the codes into the Imaginary Number District *cough Full Tuning* they would need to do all that crap with capturing Last Order etc. etc...
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2012-12-13, 03:05 | Link #21849 | |
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BTW, thinking about that Imaginary Number District. I wonder if it was somehow inspired in the concept of holistic espers, or even Kreutune herself, considering how it alters the laws macroscopically (even if it's just within an AIM aggregate) |
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2012-12-13, 04:51 | Link #21850 |
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Will the manifestation of Aiwass cause the same effect(perhaps more) to magicians like when Fuse=KAZAKIRI manifest since both require AIM dispersion fields to manifest?
Also since Kakine is now mostly made out of his Dark Matter, does that mean he will be instantly or gradually be destroyed if Touma touches him with Imagine Breaker? |
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I don't think smashing the brain of Kakine will even kill him. Those white sticky thread substance is his body itself. You need to destroy everything up to the microscopic level to even try to kill it and even that. Like what you said. He might have left spares behind. But for Imagine breaker..... well it will outright kill the thread monster but if there are separate bodies it still won't count as a total kill. It will be hard killing Kakine now.
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2012-12-13, 21:25 | Link #21854 |
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the brain is the one that produce the body tissues. If his brain is destroyed, Kakine will most likely die because there will no longer be a command center that order his ability to produce the tissue, and he will still be dead anyway with a body without a brain. Well, Kamachi can always invent a new technology by the Kiharas to replace the brain function if he want to, but there's no such indication so far.
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2012-12-14, 20:06 | Link #21860 |
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Chaos, there is one hole in your theory.
If what you have stated is true, then why Accelerator, even not in his angel state, felt pressured by the prescene of magic and vice versa? In his normal state, he certainly could not maintain the other worldly laws alone. |
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