2011-02-01, 17:24 | Link #261 |
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I honestly wouldn't see it as trolling. In fact, it might be a bad idea to assume anything based on who's writing this.
See, it's all leading up to teaching Madoka a lesson. What happened to Mami, what happens to Sayaka, what happens to Kyoko, and what has happened (and might happen) to Homura. She initially wanted to be a magical girl to be cool and to help people, but all this serves to teach her that this business isn't a good one. It's why she's so scared now. We all know she's going to become one... but why? And what will her wish be? When she gets over her fear and starts thinking about all this, she'll obviously feel that this has to end somehow. She'll finally get around to grilling Kyube about things, and because she asked directly, Kyube would be allowed to tell her. She'll be faced with the idea that she can stop it, but it will still mean risking her life as a magical girl for a time, until all witches are gone. And indeed, since no more new MG's will be created, she might have to travel and fight to get the last few witches. So, Madoka, what are you going to do? Let everyone's death and suffering be in vain? Or find the courage to take up the mantle and end things once and for all? |
2011-02-01, 17:42 | Link #262 | |
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Anyway, it is an interesting theory. I just don't see it. And I could write a few paragraphs explaining why, but I won't, because with what we know now, it wouldn't be closer to be correct than yours really. It's all speculation at this point. Let's wait a see how things turn out!
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2011-02-01, 17:53 | Link #263 | |
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Curious as to why you think she won't? If she has the outfit and official pictures have her weapon as a bow, it would seem to indicate that. Also because of the title. Though it would be a hilarious mindfuck if she never did, heh. |
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2011-02-01, 18:10 | Link #264 | ||
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Also about the title,way back in an early interview Shinbo said it was him who insisted on putting "mahou shoujo" in the title because he thought that if he didn't people wouldn't consider the show a magical girl show,though I'm only paraphrasing a translation,here's the original quote (translated by sirn): Quote:
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2011-02-01, 18:14 | Link #265 | |
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Oh, and I wouldn't trust official pictures and the like as an indication of anything that's happening in the show. They're trolling everybody with the official artwork.
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2011-02-01, 18:30 | Link #266 |
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Madoka never becoming a MG would be the ultimate troll. But, I wouldn't put it past them for actually doing just that, either. I kinda hope we'll get a scenario like this, but somehow, I think she will become one in the end.
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2011-02-02, 15:01 | Link #269 | |
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2011-02-02, 15:31 | Link #270 |
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Interesting, but that doesn't explain how there ever was a wish in the first place. How you can make a wish for a world with magic... when you are currently in a world without magic?
If there is always 1 witch per MG (because one witch is created per MG, and you can't create something out of nothing, which goes for witches, too), then there is a considerable shortage of witches. Because we've seen several witches and familiars pop in Mami's territory, which means there are territories without any witches. If an MG defeats even 2 witches, then half the population of MG's will never kill a witch. I suppose it could mean that half the population of MG's die to their first witch or are killed by an MG before being able to kill a witch, but if true, that's... fairly stupid. Even Sayaka was able to kill a witch easily on her first go. And there would be no merit to Kyube at all, nor reason to what he's doing. He'd be creating MG's and witches at the same time, just to watch at least half the girls get killed outright. Interesting theory, but if true, it comes with quite a few plot holes, and plot-induced stupidity. |
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2011-02-02, 16:27 | Link #272 | ||
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As I said, it is impossible for someone to make a magical wish in a world that doesn't have magic. Kyube did clarify why Madoka is special: she has great potential/talent for magic. Just like every other main magical girl in their own series. Quote:
That's a whole lot of girls going without. Heh, reminds me of MMO's I've played, where thousands of people camp one special monster with a 10% drop rate. But if Mami is any indication of an average MG, she's killed several witches in her career. Bottom line: There's been a lot of theories proposed, and I've seen worse. But this one isn't much better, either, and has several problems to overcome if it wants to avoid plot holes. At the least, that person is just spouting off something like everyone else here; chances are low it has anything close to the truth. |
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2011-02-02, 16:35 | Link #273 | |
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Anyway, I can't wait to see what happens in the next episode! I would love to see Kyouko and Sayaka try to fight and discover that their magic powers are harmless to each other. Do you think the we'll get a new witch? Cheers
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2011-02-02, 18:22 | Link #274 |
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I just thought up of something..
In ep 3, Mami tells Madoka to wish for a cake. Now, what would that mean? Anyone here could think of an apparantly more useful wish. Immortality. All witches gone. No more magic. Barbeque Kyube. Whatever. But no, Mami did not tell Madoka to wish for those things..but instead, tells her to wish for a cake. Mami seems to have a lot of time to think about the concept of wishing, but she ended up telling Madoka to just get a cake. Therefore, I think that Kyube's wish, for some reason, is uncabable of solving any problems that the MGs are currently facing, and Mami knows that. If this reason truly exist, then it would cover up the "why don't you just make that wish" problem. As for what that reason is..neh, I have no clue! |
2011-02-02, 18:55 | Link #275 |
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It sounds kind of like reverse psychology. "If you can't think of anything, wish for something silly like a cake!" in order to make sure Madoka does the opposite and puts a lot of thought and care into what the wish will be.
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2011-02-02, 18:57 | Link #276 |
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I think she just wasn't being serious. Sometimes a cake is just a cake. =)
Robin: Golly gee, Batman, perhaps ingesting a wish-cake solves all the problems but Mami couldn't say! Batman: No, wait Robin, that's not it. Mami was clearly indicating Christmas Cake, and you know what that means... Robin: Holy belated matrimony, Batman; Mami didn't want Madoka to grow up still unwed by her 25th birthday! Batman: Correct. But it has a double meaning; a cake is also used in a wedding ceremony. Robin: So Mami was proposing to Madoka that they get wed before they turn 25? Batman: And also that she should invest in in Goldman Sachs for 1 year before withdrawing funds. Because that company consumes the most party cakes, due to blowing the most money because they make the most money. Robin: Holy celebratory cakes, Batman! It all makes sense now... In short, try not to overthink things. |
2011-02-02, 20:15 | Link #277 |
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I wonder if Madoka would be allowed to wish for something like "I wish for the power that can defeat all the witches forever". It could be neat to see what would result from that, especially if she only actually makes a wish and becomes a magical girl at the end of the show (or never at all, as some other people have speculated already ). Would she wipe out the whole system, or would it backfire and just give her the normal magical girl abilities (and therefore hint at something about the ordinary magical girl that may be the key in defeating witches for good?).
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... but then I suspect that's what you meant by overthinking, right? Or could it be that Magicka Madoka is actually a parable about the evils of the corporate state (CEOs as the witches, other board members as the familiars), which would explain the sterile "good" facade we see at the beginning underpinned by the slowly seeping evil... I think I'll just stop here
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2011-02-03, 02:54 | Link #279 | |
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But that's not fun I don't mind crazy speculation early in the series,later on there won't be as much room for it since we'll have more knowledge of the world,so there'll be less things to speculate about.
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Since it's going into speculation territory, moving it here.
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Of course, that means it can still hurt if he's injured or killed. And actually, it would hurt less if they were just friends, rather than if they were bf/gf. If somehow they become that, it might be a sign. |
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