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View Poll Results: Macross Frontier: Sayonara no Tsubasa Movie Rating
Perfect 10 40 42.11%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 33 34.74%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 12 12.63%
7 out of 10 : Good 5 5.26%
6 out of 10 : Average 3 3.16%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 2 2.11%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2011-11-08, 22:08   Link #3261
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You're all quite welcome. As long as at least a few of you find it interesting/useful, it was worth it.

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Wow, that was great. Thanks, karice. Still need time for it all to sink in, tho...
No worries. I think I'll be taking a little bit of a break too, before looking at the next four walls of text...

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Yeah, I feel pretty much the same.
On that note, I really am curious about what they'll be doing with her website...

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Wow, Nakamura really is kind of a jerk.
Strangely enough, he also revealed a more sensitive side in this interview:
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At first, it was “Why are you in a uniform?!”, which was really difficult to say, so I had them change it to “Why are you wearing a…” Of course, it’s puzzling that it’s a uniform, but it wasn’t the time or place to needle her about it.
So what is the real Nakamura like? A jerk with a heart of gold?

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Damn, I really wanted to hear his take on it too :<
I guess that the only way that will probably be possible is to go to Japan and ask him directly...

edit:...nevermind, they talk about it a bit in one of the interview specials on the BD...

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I think you're pretty much right...personally, I'd just add that she seems to be emphasizing that it would be incredibly dark for THIS Sheryl (i.e. the Sheryl who had thrown her emotion away) to stay in the prison, a world without light. But yeah...that doesn't really alter the meaning much, does it?
It may seem small, but I still think it's important. Thank you for checking and catching that! ^^

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Thanks Karice, for picking up my slack and allowing lil' ol' me to remain LAZY...

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Old 2011-11-09, 00:24   Link #3262
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I definitely appreciate your translation work, Karice. There are definitely times when I wish I knew Japanese myself.
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Old 2011-11-09, 01:05   Link #3263
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Thank you for translating this interview, Karice. It's very much appreciated.
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Old 2011-11-09, 16:39   Link #3264
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Thanks so much Karice. I enjoyed reading your translation.
God.. We still can't break free of Macross F can we?
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Old 2011-11-09, 16:49   Link #3265
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Repeating everyone here, but thanks for the fantastic translation Karice. It's nice to be able to read something we usually wouldn't.
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Old 2011-11-09, 17:36   Link #3266
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You have a saintly patience to translate that, Karice! Thank you.

So it's confirmed that Sheryl's a spy, then? I knew it. And she does it for her love for Grace, I also suspected that. I was rewatching the first movie and something Brera told Sheryl caught my attention:

Spoiler for slightly off topic as pertains the first film?:
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Old 2011-11-10, 04:02   Link #3267
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You have a saintly patience to translate that, Karice! Thank you.

So it's confirmed that Sheryl's a spy, then? I knew it. And she does it for her love for Grace, I also suspected that. I was rewatching the first movie and something Brera told Sheryl caught my attention:

Spoiler for slightly off topic as pertains the first film?:
I haven't had time to look at the first film again, but I'm sure Sheryl knew about the plans in general. Although it's questionable what she'd been told about the reasons for them - e.g. it seems that she'd been told that it was for the purpose of protecting people.

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On another note, I FINALLY had the chance to sit down to rewatch the film in its entirety (NOTHING beats the first viewing, though I suppose I'd have enjoyed it more if I wasn't at the sub every few minutes)....

A certain HQ group has released it, with a modified script. I'd suggest checking it out, though I can't vouch for their subs myself, having not seen them. (Hopefully, their translation checker actually had a Japanese script on hand - they were released with the special edition, after all!)

This new release, however, is also 10-bit. So if you can't use it for any reason, and want another sub pronto, here's a quick edit I did (though you have to mux it yourself). There are a couple of bits that I wasn't sure about, so I just left them, and I didn't bother doing anything about the lyrics. But I fixed the important stuff.


edit (16 Nov): it really was a very QUICK edit. There are lots of minor corrections that I missed/forgot about when editing (I may go over it again, depending on what the other released subs are like), so please give me some leeway over that.

edit (29 Nov)
: link removed. See my signature for updated subs. I still haven't got my copy of the scripts, and I don't really have time to go over the lyrics, so please excuse any errors...but otherwise, it's up to you whether you trust my translation or not...

edit (Jan 2011): There's a pretty reliable group out. I suggest getting those ones...
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You must free yourself from that illusion,
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- Patrick Stokes


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Old 2011-11-10, 04:42   Link #3268
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Fantastic job with the subs there Karice.

If people don't know how to remux if you have WMPClassic its easy (all I did was drag and drop onto WMPClassic once the movie was opened)

Also, I only watched certian scenes that I think Commie needed some more flow and clearer translation on and in those scenes you're translation helped out a lot.

Seriously I cannot give you enough thanks. (so REP for you!)


Side note - I rewatched the end confession scene, and the "love" at the end got all wonky with characters after the "v". Not sure if its just my player or the .ass was loaded in wrong. Someone double check to make sure if it not just me please.


I'll re-watch the movie in full with these subs once I can get my boyfriend to stop playing BF3 long enough to watch it.
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Old 2011-11-10, 05:00   Link #3269
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Side note - I rewatched the end confession scene, and the "love" at the end got all wonky with characters after the "v". Not sure if its just my player or the .ass was loaded in wrong. Someone double check to make sure if it not just me please.
Though...er, I should have checked that confession scene. I've edited it again and added a line so that the timing hopefully works a bit better...

It's now an "I lov-" line, and it's working fine on my computer...
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You must free yourself from that illusion,
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"No, you are not entitled to your opinion... You are only entitled to what you can argue for.”
- Patrick Stokes


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Old 2011-11-10, 07:17   Link #3270
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One thing that is a bit unfair, is that Ranka has gotten the far better songs in movie two. Oh, well, she had to win at something. ^^
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Old 2011-11-10, 07:37   Link #3271
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IMHO, neither one had any good new songs this time around. But I'm still on the fence about the whole soundtrack...
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Old 2011-11-10, 08:18   Link #3272
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IMHO, neither one had any good new songs this time around. But I'm still on the fence about the whole soundtrack...
Oh, I definitely liked Rankas concert song and the song from the ending of the movie very much ( I don't mean the duet with Sheryl, but the other one... although the duet with Sheryl was fine, too ).
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One thing that is a bit unfair, is that Ranka has gotten the far better songs in movie two. Oh, well, she had to win at something. ^^
I think you've got to have a pretty cold heart to begrudge her her fame in this one. In the first movie, it was pretty much All Sheryl, All the Time, with Ranka getting some campaign songs as a consolation prize.

But yeah...while "Sayonara no Tsubasa" is (to me, at least) as fraught with tension and drama as "Diamond Crevasse," I find myself humming "Nijiiro Kuma Kuma" at the oddest times...it's so damn CATCHY!
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Yeah, still not feeling Sayonara no Tsubasa, myself. Even more when you compare it to Diamond Crevasse, which ended up tying with Fly Me To The Moon for my "favorite song ever" spot...
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[QUOTE=Yot-chan;3851238]I think you've got to have a pretty cold heart to begrudge her her fame in this one. In the first movie, it was pretty much All Sheryl, All the Time, with Ranka getting some campaign songs as a consolation prize.

Oh, I don't begrudge her that at all. As I said, I enjoyed Rankas songs in the second movie much more than Sheryls.

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But yeah...while "Sayonara no Tsubasa" is (to me, at least) as fraught with tension and drama as "Diamond Crevasse," I find myself humming "Nijiiro Kuma Kuma" at the oddest times...it's so damn CATCHY!
That's the one with "Open Ranka!"? Because that one really is damned catchy.
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Yeah, still not feeling Sayonara no Tsubasa, myself. Even more when you compare it to Diamond Crevasse, which ended up tying with Fly Me To The Moon for my "favorite song ever" spot...
Really...?!

Valkyria...da-da-da-DUH-DUH-DUH!! Valkyria...da-DA-da...DUH!-DUH!-DENH!!

You feel NOTHING...???

Damn...some folks are hard to please, I guess...
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That's the one with "Open Ranka!"? Because that one really is damned catchy.
Yep. Ranka's greatest song, BAR NONE.
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That's the one with "Open Ranka!"? Because that one really is damned catchy.
That 'Open Ranka' part is my text message tone. Works like a charm.

Would 'Rainbow Coloured Bear' be the correct translation for that song?
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Would 'Rainbow Coloured Bear' be the correct translation for that song?
That works.

"Rainbow Bear-Bear" also works.
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"Rainbow Bear-Bear" also works.
I much prefer that title.
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