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It's good to see she's giving herself a bit of a break. I'm looking forward to Nagi no Asukara.
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2013-06-25, 20:13 | Link #342 |
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Okada has slowed down, but she still did the 2nd cour of Blast of Tempest, Sakurasou and then AKB0048 s2 earlier this year. Also True Tears Nanto this season though that's more of a special/split up OVA episode then a full series.
EDIT: She also did the HSI movie and Anohana movie is coming out this coming season. Last edited by Pocari_Sweat; 2013-06-25 at 20:52. |
2013-06-25, 21:52 | Link #343 |
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I wonder what people will ask her? What would you guys ask her? I've often wonder why they don't screen some of these questions in advance. Some are an enormous waste of time. Such as the time at the Fate/Zero panel last year with that guy asking why Kiritsugu wasn't more burned at the end ..
I would like to know if she is influenced by KEY works in anyway especially because of the the Super Peace Busters in Anohana. That would be interesting to know. Last edited by Leo_Otaku; 2013-06-25 at 22:43. |
2013-06-26, 02:56 | Link #345 | |
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I'd be interested in her personal developments and motivations for the series she worked on that I really enjoyed: Toradora, AnoHana, Hanasaku Iroha, Sakurasou, etc. Super excited to be able to meet with her this year.
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2013-06-26, 03:06 | Link #346 |
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Winter - Book of Bantorra (started 2009 fall) Spring - Summer - Black Butler 2 Fall - Zakuro, Gosick 2011 Winter - Gosick, Fractale, Wandering Son Spring - HanaIro, Anohana Summer - HanaIro Fall - 2012 (Kenshin OVA 1 episode in Winter and another in Fall) Winter - Aquarion Evol, Black Rock Shooter Spring - Aquarion Evol, AKB0048, Fujiko Mine Summer - Fall - Sakurasou, Blast of Tempest 2013 Winter - Sakurasou, Blast of Tempest. AKB0048 S2 Spring - True Tours Nanto, Hana Iro Movie Summer - Fall - Nagi no Asakura, Ano Hana Movie Yeah, Okada is slowing down in terms of workload, but that's only because she did an awful ton of stuff in 2012 (most likely due to the success of AnoHana and HanaIro... of which did well enough to warrant movie companions to each). Otherwise she works around the equivalent of roughly 5 one-cour anime per year (same during 2008 and 2009), so I wouldn't be surprised if she worked one more series on top of Nagi no Asakura during the fall. But yeah, I was actually planning to go to AnimeExpo just to get my shit signed, not to mention I want to be in the panel asking questions, but alas emergency expenditures halted that trip. So sad because I haven't felt so strongly about Okada like I have with anyone in the anime industry apart from Kasai Kenichi, of whom I really doubt will ever come this side of the Pacific.
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Back onto AnimeExpo. I will pay someone lots of money if they manage to buy a Japanese Blu-ray True Tears Box and then get Okada's signature on it. The shitty bandai DVD one does not count. EDIT: Golden Time still hasn't announced the studio/director/writer and its scheduled for Fall 2013. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Okada is involved because it's right up her alley - college based romance/drama/comedy Last edited by Pocari_Sweat; 2013-06-26 at 04:04. |
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2013-06-26, 08:02 | Link #348 |
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I should have been clearer, the okada show of the year that isn't related to what she's already done, AKB0048 S2 , the ano hana and Hanasaku Hiroha movies are all based on stuff she's worked on before while Nagi Asukara is brand new and true tours nanto is not a full show.
You are right though that I didn't account for Tiny twin bears but I can't even find raws of it online, japanese wiki says it consisted of 26 5 minute episodes that aired every weekday back in winter on nhk-e. Not sure how many of those she wrote. And to get back to the "slowing down" part,it's not only about the amount of shows but how involved she gets, for example while she wrote all the episodes of the first season of AKB0048 herself, she only wrote half of S2 herself.
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2013-06-30, 15:09 | Link #349 |
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Please explain how Mari Okada's works that "emasculate" male characters are unusual in a medium which absolutely loves to have girlish male leads dress up as women and has done so for many, many years now. |
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2013-07-01, 23:31 | Link #355 |
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My point is that if there is crossdressing in Okada's anime (of which I can only remember four, two of which where it was a minor joke, one of which was an adaptation of a manga about trans people, and the last of which was a show for which we already know she had very little creative control over, as she's not even credited as Series Comp for it) it isn't something exclusive to her, but rather indicative of an overall trend in the industry.
If you have an effeminate male lead, chances are he's gonna end up in a dress at some point. Traps are mainstream these days, you know? |
2013-07-02, 01:57 | Link #356 | |
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A crossdresser was a major plot point in 2 of her shows that she had control over, jokes were sprinkled a bit in one series that she had control over, and you might claim that Wandering Son is an adaptation, but a less biased statement would say that she at least has some experience in gender identity issues or at least some kind of interest, or at least someone that works with her and makes decisions is. So all you really have to say here is that "we don't know if definitely Okada... and it could be attributed to general industry trend." That's fine; it's most likely true. Well, honestly, that's a broader generalization that you would find harder to objectively prove then any assertions made in this thread. And now I'm going to declare riichi. Be careful here. My hint is that it is possible to come up with factual statements yet not create an argument.
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2013-07-02, 02:04 | Link #357 | |
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Listen, I bet you that if I actually put effort into doing so I could find you another series comp who has just as many shows involving crossdressing/emasculation/what have you under his belt as Okada does, yet of course he wouldn't be famous for it. So, the question I have here is this: why is Okada 'famous' for it? |
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2013-07-02, 02:17 | Link #358 | |
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That's the problem. I feel what I've already said is enough. But hey, I just wanted to have some fun.
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Yoshihiro Togashi is yet another when it comes to this kind of gender ambigous concepts. Yet if I say he does, is anyone going to scoff and be like "Oh that's nothing special! Other people...". But he has appears to have a certain style that's very notable even if I've only seen 2 of his work. Why is Okada famous for it? Because she wrote works that were famous. It's simple as that. And, most importantly, this thread is about this person. Is it right? I don't know. Somehow this perception was created, and it didn't pop out of thin air. I mean would it be any less controversial if I said someone likes to put crying as an element? Would it be proper to be like "well, that's nothing special in anime at all!" It's about the intensity and impact. Or to put it soundly, how a single instance etches itself in people's memories. Why exactly do characters like Kirino from Oreimo or Shu from Guilty Crown generate such polarity even though their character archetypes are as common as grass on the lawn? Point is, you are correct that this is not unique and is possible to attribute this to greater industry trends. But this isn't mutually exclusive to what people are claiming or generalizing. You're just doing it at a broader level. All perspectives carry of flaws, depending on the scope they cover. I'm just going to say the broader strokes are harder to prove and aren't exactly the best ones to analyze any particular situation. Although Enzo's murder analogy was politically incorrect, it would be fixed to say something like "It's like responding to a statement of it raining to be like 'whatever, that's nothing new'" Essentially, it'd be like saying that the sun isn't very important, since it's not a particularly big star anyways, or anything special when it comes to the grand scheme.
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2013-07-02, 02:28 | Link #359 |
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Then in that case, do you think certain people are justified in going "oh god, another Okada anime, I hope it doesn't have crossdressing again, she must have a really low opinion of men"?
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2013-07-02, 02:34 | Link #360 | |
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Personally, I do it facetiously. I would never write a serious writing going: omfg man-hater is back. At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised either. However, I may be the only one that doesn't see it as a completely bad thing and chuckle at it. Because to be fair, the times when crossdressing were major elements of the story, they actually worked well. (Lupin, Anohana). I could argue that the writing actively defies traditional gender roles, and might even been progressive. Therefore, I do think it's a valid topic to discuss if we go being the memetic portion. But at least we can agree the memetic part is too strong atm. Though it is not me only that thinks that her guy characters aren't as good. It might not be fair, but I can't fault people for getting these ideas. This is coming from a dude that considers her best work to be Anohana, so YMMV.
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