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Old 2019-07-20, 05:21   Link #401
Der Langrisser
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The switch is region free as far as I know, but I heard getting DLCs for the asian version is a bit complicated because there's no real asian nintendo eshop.
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Old 2019-07-20, 05:27   Link #402
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So I just read that Nintendo is facing a class action lawsuit over its apparent failure to address the joycon drift issue.

As someone whose Switch is having this problem right now, it wouldn't be such a problem for me if the joycons weren't so goddamned expensive.
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Old 2019-07-20, 11:09   Link #403
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I keep seeing this "drift" thing brought up, but not sure what it is. Anyone got a short-hand of it?
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Old 2019-07-20, 11:21   Link #404
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I keep seeing this "drift" thing brought up, but not sure what it is. Anyone got a short-hand of it?
Games register stick movement and moves the game in the accorded direction despite that fact that the stick is stationary.

For example in my case, I first noticed my joycons were having the drift while playing Xenoblade, where the characters would move to the left because my left stick drifts left, while the the camera pans down because my right stick drifts down. All this while my Switch isn't being touched.
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Old 2019-07-21, 01:03   Link #405
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That's... really unacceptable.
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Old 2019-07-21, 06:58   Link #406
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That issue was mostly present with the first generation of switch. I bought mine when Xenoblade 2 was about to be released and never noticed any joycon drifting issue, and same goes for my acquaintances.
EDIT: nevermind, I mistook that issue with the left joycon connectivity issue. The drit problem is pretty much widespread and I guess I'm pretty lucky since I never noticed that kind of stuff.
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Old 2019-07-21, 09:00   Link #407
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From further reading, it seems like it happens based on use. So I probably wouldn't have to worry about it for a while, since I don't use the switch THAT much, but eventually it'd be an issue. Still unacceptable when these damned joycons cost like $50 a pop.
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Old 2019-07-21, 09:22   Link #408
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From further reading, it seems like it happens based on use. So I probably wouldn't have to worry about it for a while, since I don't use the switch THAT much, but eventually it'd be an issue. Still unacceptable when these damned joycons cost like $50 a pop.
If it happens because of extended use, then that's not really a hardware failure but just lack of maintenance that can be fixed by using some electrical contract cleaner.

Immediately blaming the hardware before looking into any possible solutions sounds like something my grandparents would do

If my logitech keyboard stops working after a couple of years because I never cleaned the dirt then I guess I should sue them too
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Old 2019-07-21, 09:47   Link #409
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Problem is that the failure rates are supposedly really high comparatively, and you can't exactly open it to clean without voiding warranty. Plus the suit alleges that apparently Nintendo has known these problem rates for a while but didn't do anything to rectify.

This is somewhat similar to the Red Ring of Death problem that the X360 had.
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Old 2019-07-21, 16:00   Link #410
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Problem is that the failure rates are supposedly really high comparatively. Plus the suit alleges that apparently Nintendo has known these problem rates for a while but didn't do anything to rectify.

This is somewhat similar to the Red Ring of Death problem that the X360 had.
Comparatively? How do we know this? From vocal people on the internet? The same people that tried to claim Switch bending and screen scratches were a widespread issue?

Also, unlike the Red Ring of Death, most of these stick issues weren't experienced on fresh-out-of-the-box Switches like it did for X360. There were also no feasible solutions for RROD, while there are multiple for stick drifting.

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and you can't exactly open it to clean without voiding warranty.
At the very least, you can spray compressed air or cleaner under the rubber skirt under the joystick here without voiding your warranty:
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There is also a setting on the Switch to recalibrate the Joysticks themselves:
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Can you really tell me that a majority of people have tried these options?
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Old 2019-07-21, 17:41   Link #411
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Maybe it happened once when I was playing on someone else's, for Smash Bros, and then my character suddenly continued moving left and self-destructed. But then it fixed itself, and I'm not sure if that was a malfunction of the controller or because there were 10s of similar controllers in the area.
It has never happened to my Switch though.

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The switch is region free as far as I know, but I heard getting DLCs for the asian version is a bit complicated because there's no real asian nintendo eshop.
Ahh, I see. I know that the Asian version comes with one DLC and I recall reading another game that did similarly.
Well, I don't care too much about DLC (unless it is something really well done like Xenoblade's Torna), so I should be fine there.

Also, nice name. Been getting into that series, not many SRPGs these days, Urushihara is always awesome.

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Can you really tell me that a majority of people have tried these options?
I can say with confidence that I highly doubt it. The general public isn't that smart.
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Old 2019-07-21, 19:31   Link #412
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Maybe it happened once when I was playing on someone else's, for Smash Bros, and then my character suddenly continued moving left and self-destructed. But then it fixed itself, and I'm not sure if that was a malfunction of the controller or because there were 10s of similar controllers in the area.
It has never happened to my Switch though.
This same exact thing happened to me, but we were using my switch since I had more characters unlocked. But I've never suffered from drift other than that. And it only happened on one Joy-con for a short time and fixed itself and went away and then came back but was gone by the end of that day never to come back. Interesting to hear you experienced something similar too.
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Old 2019-07-21, 21:06   Link #413
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I've blown compressed air under the joycon skirt and have recalibrated a few times already. They were only temporary solutions and the drift tends to return within a week.

I already use a third party controller because it's so annoying.
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Old 2019-07-22, 02:30   Link #414
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I've blown compressed air under the joycon skirt and have recalibrated a few times already. They were only temporary solutions and the drift tends to return within a week.

I already use a third party controller because it's so annoying.
That sucks...

Also, 4 more days... just 4 more days... ugh.
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Old 2019-07-22, 12:40   Link #415
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That sucks...

Also, 4 more days... just 4 more days... ugh.
Wainting for Fire Emblem too, uh ?
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Old 2019-07-22, 22:19   Link #416
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Wainting for Fire Emblem too, uh ?
Yeah, lol. I've had it pre-downloaded for like 12 days now. Sighhhhhhhhh.
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Old 2019-07-23, 00:10   Link #417
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This same exact thing happened to me, but we were using my switch since I had more characters unlocked. But I've never suffered from drift other than that. And it only happened on one Joy-con for a short time and fixed itself and went away and then came back but was gone by the end of that day never to come back. Interesting to hear you experienced something similar too.
Meh, I frankly don't see a real problem. I have a feeling the lawesuit will go nowhere.
The biggest question I have is how long the people responsible for funding the lawsuit will hold out against Nintendo, because I'm sure Nintendo has enough money to throw around as far as lawyers go.
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Old 2019-07-23, 00:27   Link #418
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Meh, I frankly don't see a real problem. I have a feeling the lawesuit will go nowhere.
The biggest question I have is how long the people responsible for funding the lawsuit will hold out against Nintendo, because I'm sure Nintendo has enough money to throw around as far as lawyers go.
Yeah. I do think it's in Nintendo's best interests to fix the problem though. But to be perfectly honest, if a newer, better switch comes out, likely, it'd be good enough to just get new actually long-term functional joycons with that... I can see why people are frustrated though.

I exclusively play in hand-held mode. Have used docked mode only when Playing Smash (because am literally too lazy to set it up and because I love portability that much) and have never encountered a single problem even once in that mode.
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Old 2019-07-23, 13:56   Link #419
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Welp....
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Old 2019-07-23, 19:29   Link #420
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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8...ce=wptwitterus

Chances are they're offering to fix it for free, just like they did for people with left joycon syncing issues back then.
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