Aldnoah.Zero - generic discussion thread

[germanturkey]

whoa. pretty sweet first episode. will definitely follow this one up. its been a while since i've watched a good mecha show.

[felix]

Can't decide if I want her dead or alive.

Uhm....... how about neither? She's not dead, but was never alive.

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Speaking of the princess, I wonder who will pick up the "plot shield" aka. trinket princess had on her.

[Irenesharda]

Looking at the poster art, I'm guessing Inaho is going to be piloting the Earth models we saw at the school in the first episode, while Slaine will be piloting a Vers mech.

Here's a guess for future events:
Slaine, enraged at the princess' "murder" fights for the Vers in attempting to make the Earth pay for her death. However, unknown to Slaine and the Vers aristocracy, the princess has changed places with a double after being warned that her own people had planned an attack on her life. She tries to blend in undercover on Earth and gets mixed up with the Earth resistance effort, where she meets Inaho. She decides to help Earth in an effort to find some way of having peace.

During battle Inaho and Slaine meet in combat and Inaho describes the mech to the princess who recognizes it as Slaine's. She desires to meet him in order to explain what really happened, and so appears on the next battlefield. However, in his blind rage, Slaine doesn't see her until it's too late and he inadvertently kills the princess.

Well, this is all just speculation, but it's an idea of where this story could go.

[Somnus]

Watched the first episode.

I'm curious, but that's about it. My interest will be severely increased/decreased at whether the princess is alive or not. Not because I want her to be alive cause "she's a cute girl", but because if she truly is dead then the human race is beyond stupid for putting that dumb little convoy as her only protection. And if that's the case, they deserve whatever's coming to them.

That said, the lack of showing her face tells me it was indeed a decoy.

EDIT:

Best part of the episode was Inaho's sister slamming the table and pouting at breakfast. Freaking adorable.

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by Haruyasha

Finally a series that compliments the Guilty Crown OST.

Trying to jynx this anime?

[Haruyasha]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

A series already compliments the Guilty Crown OST, it's called Shingeki no Kyojin.

It's not quite the same feel.

[MeggieMay]

Originally Posted by LightningZERO

Spoiler for Timeline:

1969
Apollo 11 landed on the Moon

1972
Apollo 17 found remains of ancient Mars technology on the moon surface. A teleportation device was unearthed in the ruins, which made travel between Earth and Mars possible. It was named "Hyper Gate"

1975
United Nations proposed the Mars development project and signed by the member nations. The resources on Mars would not for military purposes. The signing of the treaty was what actually ended the cold war. For the first exploration, Professor Ray Regalia was the lead.

1980
Mars development centre was set up and mankind started to move to Earth. First settlement involved 340,000 people.

1982
Ray Regalia suddenly turned again Earth and yearned Mars to armed itself. United Nations tried to contain the conflict by force but the situation escalated.

1983
Ray Regalia was arrested under the crime of disturbing peace but the retention centre was attacked and the professor freed. The conflict escalated further.

1985
Ray Regalia formed VERS Empire. As it was a single side declaration, the Mars was in the state of closed country.

1986
As precaution to VERS Empire, nations on Earth formed the Earth Federation and the cold war between them and Mars began.

1991
It was revealed that Earth Federation's military actually took bribes from civilian manufacturing companies. The scandals dealt a blow to the Earth Federation's position.

1996
Atlanta, São Paulo and Bombay were bombed in large scale terrorist attacks. 3267 deaths. Mars organization took credit for the attacks. Anti Mars rose among earthlings.

1997
Ray Regalia retired due to illness. His son Gillsaia ascended to the throne.

1999
VERS Empire declared war on Earth and used their military robot Cataphract to attack Earth Federation's bases on Moon. In the fierce battle, the Hyper Gate lost control and the Moon was heavily damaged. The disaster was named "Heaven's Fall". Debris from the moon formed the satellite belt. Gillsaia, who was fighting on front line was KIA. The two force decided to cease fire. Ray Regalia returned to the throne and Gillsaia's first daughter, Princess Asseylum was born.

2000
Earth Federation and VERS signed the peace treaty. The military forces were called back and a neutral zone was set up.

2002
VERS mass produced their space ships and a route between Mars and Moon was set up. Most of the Mars Knights resisted the call back orders and stayed within the moon area. The peace treaty was actually ignored on Mars' sides.

2003
Due to Heaven's Falls, the political situations on Earth were unstable and there were multiple large scale riots. To suppress the riots, Earth Federation used the Earth made Cataphracts, which were developed after the war, for the very first time.

2007
After Earth Federation ended the riots, the situation stabilized.

2010
In the 10th anniversary of the war end, nations held celebrations and peace meetings. Two side were walking towards peace.

2014
Earth Federation continues to promote good relationships with VERS and the peace talks are still ongoing.

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

Here's a look at the map from the episode and what the destruction of the moon (Heaven's Fall) did to the geography of the world. I'm sorry east and west coast of the America, it looks like America lost huge chunks of it's continental land. Half of Australia is gone. And poor South America...

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Ok, lets pull the map & time line along with us.

First, very convenient that Japan is unscathed and most of the U.S. and a good chunk of Canada with a large populations gets offed On the other hand, the map makes it look like the outer banks islands on the Eastern U.S. coast, Baltimore and maybe even Washington D.C. made it?! Yeah - that's about as wonky as Japan being unscathed. Maybe they were trying to take North America out of the picture of their story? Hopefully, the powers that be work on the map a bit for the BD release because I think that map has a lot of issues as is. As one poster pointed out, the map makes it look bad enough no one on Earth should be even alive and I agree with that assessment .

Now, more seriously on the map issue - what happened to New Orleans makes more sense now with the map and timeline. I was like "why would anyone attack New Orleans?" There isn't much going on there that makes a target in our timeline (loved the comment about drinking during lent earlier, BTW ). However, if you off Atlanta and half of the coasts (I have to wonder if Atlanta was nuked in the earlier terrorist attack and maybe not the Heaven's Fall incident?), it would be one of the remaining large U.S. cities. The map looks like Chicago is gone as well, so NOLA could be the Capital now, though being an American I'd think Denver or Colorado Springs might be more likely. Plus the map is making me wonder just why attack the U.S. at all - I'm not sure there's enough left of North America at this point for the U.S. to matter.

Oh and I was going to mention yesterday there something about the MC that reminds me of Guilty Crown but decided not to because I noticed Urobuchi isn't connected to that show (at least not credit wise). Still, the issue may be less Guilty Crown and more a current Mecha trend with MC's that act a certain way. That could also lead to giving the shows a similar feeling.

[cleo]

Great fist ep. Enough exposition to paint the world, without getting boring. And enough character interaction to show who's who. I had a wtf moment when the singing started, but wow. They sure made it plain that this isn't another Gargantia. And than those kids: "I wished for World Peace". Geez.

[ReaperxKingx]

I enjoyed the first episode, despite a lot of cliches, they are executed well. The only thing I dislike about the first episode is the one most notable part of the plot was already revealed. I would much prefer they show the Princess surviving another way instead of the old switch method.

The highlight has to be the ending sequence, nice touch of the music that caught me and many others surprise and pique the interest for the next episode.

[Dr.]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

I enjoyed the first episode, despite a lot of cliches, they are executed well. The only thing I dislike about the first episode is the one most notable part of the plot was already revealed. I would much prefer they show the Princess surviving another way instead of the old switch method.

The highlight has to be the ending sequence, nice touch of the music that caught me and many others surprise and pique the interest for the next episode.

You must be unfamiliar with who scripted this. Expect a twist in the plot of some sort.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Dr.

You must be unfamiliar with who scripted this. Expect a twist in the plot of some sort.

It has already been said Urobuchi only wrote the first three episodes (and this is a 24 episode series), and I think he didn't even do series composition (whoever is in charge of that is the lead writer). Basically they only hired him to have his name on the credits (you know, for the hype) but he's not all that involved in the project.

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by MeggieMay

Ok, lets pull the map & time line along with us.

First, very convenient that Japan is unscathed and most of the U.S. and a good chunk of Canada with a large populations gets offed On the other hand, the map makes it look like the outer banks islands on the Eastern U.S. coast, Baltimore and maybe even Washington D.C. made it?! Yeah - that's about as wonky as Japan being unscathed. Maybe they were trying to take North America out of the picture of their story? Hopefully, the powers that be work on the map a bit for the BD release because I think that map has a lot of issues as is. As one poster pointed out, the map makes it look bad enough no one on Earth should be even alive and I agree with that assessment .

Now, more seriously on the map issue - what happened to New Orleans makes more sense now with the map and timeline. I was like "why would anyone attack New Orleans?" There isn't much going on there that makes a target in our timeline (loved the comment about drinking during lent earlier, BTW ). However, if you off Atlanta and half of the coasts (I have to wonder if Atlanta was nuked in the earlier terrorist attack and maybe not the Heaven's Fall incident?), it would be one of the remaining large U.S. cities. The map looks like Chicago is gone as well, so NOLA could be the Capital now, though being an American I'd think Denver or Colorado Springs might be more likely. Plus the map is making me wonder just why attack the U.S. at all - I'm not sure there's enough left of North America at this point for the U.S. to matter.

Oh and I was going to mention yesterday there something about the MC that reminds me of Guilty Crown but decided not to because I noticed Urobuchi isn't connected to that show (at least not credit wise). Still, the issue may be less Guilty Crown and more a current Mecha trend with MC's that act a certain way. That could also lead to giving the shows a similar feeling.

Well, from the way it looks, I'd say Washington D.C. is either gone or in a lot of trouble. Whatever happened to it, I'd think the US would more than likely have to move the Capital somewhere else. Also, with that much damage to the US as well as that many people who would have died, and all the destruction that would have plummeted the economy, we would have probably have had to since all of our resources into the recovery effort. Much of our military and NASA resources would have also been diverted to helping the country get back on its feet, and both of those groups would have taken a large blow thanks to the destruction as well. So, it actually kind of makes sense that America, who normally would have probably ordered a preemptive strike on the Vers descending castles before they even fell down, did nothing in defense.

My city of Chicago is gone, and Atlanta was destroyed in both a terrorist attack and in the resulting natural disasters. New Orleans is also a bad location considering it's position in the ocean and the dangers that come with that. I think the capital in Denver or Dallas would make more sense.

Also, another person said it was interesting that all the major military powers were the ones that got hit the hardest. With America trashed, the UK probably in a lot of trouble considering it's island nature and the loss of Ireland. The EU have taken a beating considering some of Italy is gone, the Baltic countries are gone, India is gone, a large amount of Australia gone, and the rest of the world probably trying to stay afloat, the world's military and defense resources are probably very lacking.

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

It has already been said Urobuchi only wrote the first three episodes (and this is a 24 episode series), and I think he didn't even do series composition (whoever is in charge of that is the lead writer). Basically they only hired him to have his name on the credits (you know, for the hype) but he's not all that involved in the project.

Well, any plot twist with the princess' survival would be in this first episode and the second episode, both episodes he scripted, so the statement stands.

[RRW]

1972
Apollo 17 found remains of ancient Mars technology on the moon surface. A teleportation device was unearthed in the ruins, which made travel between Earth and Mars possible. It was named "Hyper Gate"

1975
United Nations proposed the Mars development project and signed by the member nations. The resources on Mars would not for military purposes. The signing of the treaty was what actually ended the cold war. For the first exploration, Professor Ray Regalia was the lead.

1980
Mars development centre was set up and mankind started to move to Earth. First settlement involved 340,000 people.

1982
Ray Regalia suddenly turned again Earth and yearned Mars to armed itself. United Nations tried to contain the conflict by force but the situation escalated.

well that just silly. assuming it based on real world situation before 1969

first thing. how do you know it made from mars? doe sit say "made in mars" somewhere?

ok fine the somehow test it and manage to teleported to mars. why it so fast for UN to agree with colonization plan? and somehow the space colony and rocket technology accelerate so fast to them able to colonies in mars.

then 2 years after colonization the decide to REBELLION!!. wow that certain escalated quickly.

this is highly unrealistic and silly. but fuck logic in mecha anime right!

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only logical speculation i can think of is that Regalia already plan this long time ago and know existence of ancient mars civilization. this make me speculate even further

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on other news interesting 1st episode. the budget certainly go high in this. ofc standard anime dictate. unleash we really see the body dead. they are not dead

[bakato]

Originally Posted by RRW

well that just silly. assuming it based on real world situation before 1969

first thing. how do you know it made from mars? doe sit say "made in mars" somewhere?

ok fine the somehow test it and manage to teleported to mars. why it so fast for UN to agree with colonization plan? and somehow the space colony and rocket technology accelerate so fast to them able to colonies in mars.

then 2 years after colonization the decide to REBELLION!!. wow that certain escalated quickly.

this is highly unrealistic and silly. but fuck logic in mecha anime right!

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only logical speculation i can think of is that Regalia already plan this long time ago and know existence of ancient mars civilization. this make me speculate even further

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on other news interesting 1st episode. the budget certainly go high in this. ofc standard anime dictate. unleash we really see the body dead. they are not dead

They obviously didn't know it was Martian when they first found it. This is historical information so they called it Martian in hindsight.

[germanturkey]

the staffing on this show is solid. i was a fan of guilty crown (despite its obvious faults) because it tried and somewhat successfully kept its plot mature. plus the music. hopefully the guy can keep up the good work.

[BPD Renegade]

Okay, so after my third time watching this (), I noticed a couple things:

-The two terrorists were in the bar and left after the doctor arrived and they exchanged greetings. Possible connection with Lieutenant. Doctor possibly involved in assassination plot. It'd be convenient that he's friends with an insider.

-We saw a body crawl out of the car. But right before the final bomb drops (after the shot of the back of her head), we see a person standing upright. The person does look like somewhat like the princess, but the shot isn't a hundred percent clear.

Chances that it is her, but she somehow survives and is horribly disfigured?

No matter how many times I watch this, I don't get tired of it.

[ReaperxKingx]

The scene with the children at the end is one of things that I enjoyed, but at the same time kind of disturbed about it. This show is definitely going to pull many emotional strings.

[LystAP]

I can't stop replaying the ending orbital castle drop scene; that OST is wonderful.

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

The scene with the children at the end is one of things that I enjoyed, but at the same time kind of disturbed about it. This show is definitely going to pull many emotional strings.

It's a generic wish that innocent children wish for every year, and it will never come true.

[konart]

Chances that it is her, but she somehow survives and is horribly disfigured?

No. That person, whoever it was - should be dead. I can't survive this.

[germanturkey]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

The scene with the children at the end is one of things that I enjoyed, but at the same time kind of disturbed about it. This show is definitely going to pull many emotional strings.

i really hope so. the shows that have the guts to pull on heart strings are the ones that are remembered.