2012-09-20, 04:34 | Link #381 | |
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Yea... granted that it somewhat feels like "random" to me, but the anime is cool in many ways. I also like this (even though I forcefully bought a pirated DVD of it).
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2012-09-20, 04:56 | Link #382 | |
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tt: I loved Hidan no Aria and was baffled at first by how much hatred it got online. After getting to understand anime communities a bit more I realized that it was mostly people jumping on bandwagons (protip: hating JC won't make you look sophisticated) and that on animesuki here even seem to be a few people actively following the LN, which I was really glad about. Still, the fanbase seems to be very small.
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2012-09-20, 18:00 | Link #385 |
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I've built up a lot of these over the last few months. One of my favorite anime ever is California Crisis: Gun Salvo, which a lot of people look down. Also, there's Legend of Duo, the YuGiOh movie, Jungle Boy, Rio Rainbow Gate...
And whoever says Aquarion EVOL and the original Hellsing sucks are WRONG!
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2012-09-20, 18:23 | Link #386 | |
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2012-09-21, 04:34 | Link #388 | |
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Please read between the lines before anything else.
... wow, it seems that a piece of my mind that has materialized on my earlier post had lead to a commotion of sorts, much like when Trillanes started trash-talking Enrile against the proposition of an independent province that will separate a district in Camarines Sur in order to form Nueva Camarines in the process (seriously, what in the hell are those a-holes thinking?).
I just want to suggest that we should leave the haters alone. If they hate something about a certain anime or show, will it affect something? We are entitled to opinions... but on the same process, we should express our opinions with PROPER REASON. I'll cite an example: sudolicious' post. Quote:
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2012-09-21, 05:55 | Link #390 |
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We ain't leaving the haters alone. They can express how bad an anime or series has been. I'm sure we can express how good an anime is. We point out things that are good as they point things that are bad. I'm sure we have the right to get back at them if they mess with us.
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2012-09-21, 06:14 | Link #391 | |
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2012-09-21, 09:09 | Link #392 | |
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Of course them hating won't affect anything, but how can you even seriously ask that question in the first place? It's not about whether it affects something or not, this is a discussion forum, the very nature of this website is to exchange opinions and views. If someone is criticizing Strike Witches with legitimate arguments and therefor concludes that Strike Witches is "bad", then I would be glad to discuss this topic with him. But, if someone is ranting about a certain show, without giving any proper arguments whatsoever, while just hanging onto one tiny irrelevant aspect, then I won't bother giving "reasons". I dismissed their complaints and moved on to the more important part of my post, establishing that SW has a lot more fans than haters. I don't have a problem with people not enjoying shows I liked, I just don't like to see them talking out of their ass and trying to make the show look bad when they clearly don't have any foundation for it in the first place. But again, that hasn't even been the case here, my focus was on supporting the fanbase, and not bashing the haters. If I simply misunderstood your post - which I still think is highly possible - then I'm sorry, in this case I hope I didn't offend you and would delete my post soon. I was just a bit surprised to see this kind of reply, especially since someone else told me to "behave", so I thought this two things could be related to each other.
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2012-09-21, 20:59 | Link #393 |
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This thread isn't about insulting people It's about presenting reasons why each of us believe that a particular anime has merits that might not be readily apparent. Thus, we're criticising an idea, not the people who hold the idea. Unfortunately, most people who disagree with a series usually do not have a solid justification backing it. Something as simple as "the story isn't coherent" is good enough for me, but complaining about the "lack of pants", for instance, isn't. That said, the people who criticise a particular anime usually are excessively vocal about it, which leads to the impression that everyone hates something. I think that's why people step up to counteract it: had I believed the general impression of Strike Witches, I would have missed out on something that was relatively novel and fun
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2012-09-22, 05:41 | Link #394 |
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I can't hate a series. Because hating a series is utterly moronic.
If you don't like a series, then DISINTEREST takes care of the rest. There are hundreds, thousands of things I find boring. I don't hate them, because due to having no interest in them, I don't read/watch/listen to them. Disinterest shouldn't produce a strong emtion in people like hatred. It would have to be a very isolated, special case for something like that to happen. Like a hit song that's utterly annoying to you, but gets played all the time, forcing you to listen to it
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2012-09-22, 22:21 | Link #395 | |
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So I guess there are really two cases that should really be distinguished here as far as this thread goes: a) "Anime you love but few people seem interested in", and b) "Anime you love but has a lot of vocal detractors" There are shows that seem to attract a lot of negative "press" among the fans. I think this is usually because people are initially interested in the series on principle, but are disappointed by the way it turns out. Some of this is because people buy into "hype" without investigating whether the show is really their style. Heck, I know some people that will watch just about any anime just because it's anime without any regard to theme, style, or target audience (and yes, some of these same people get "mad" when the show doesn't live up to their expectations of being a "good anime" -- even if it's a self-fulfilling prophecy...). Personally, if I lose interest in a show, I'm likely to just stop watching. But there are some people who force themselves to watch anime to the bitter end whether they like it or not. And this concious choice on their part can result in that sort of "annoying hit song" syndrome you mention. A lot of these same people get really bitter about anime in general as a result of their choice... but they don't seem to have any inclination to stop. Some will argue that sticking shows out this way has caused them to discover gems that they otherwise would have overlooked (but I personally question whether a show can really be a gem to a person if it takes them that long to enjoy it...). Well, anyway, for myself personally, I love a number of anime that are in both of the categories above, and I guess that's natural. My reasons for enjoying anime are my own, and don't necessarily align with anyone else. Sometimes I think the reasons people offer for disliking shows I love are a bit frustrating, but it makes for interesting discussions anyway...
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2012-09-23, 12:30 | Link #396 |
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I love the horror psychological stuff but it seems everybody around me hated it Looks like some people manage to hate tv shows they never saw in fact (wich is awesome in a way) I need to check Ideon but again some people told me to avoid this old shit. That make me more interested in fact XD
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2012-09-23, 12:40 | Link #397 | |
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These days I spend a lot of my time trying to explain this very simple concept of hate solves nothing and just makes more people miserable in the long run to the Gundam fanbase, but I've basically given that one up as a lost cause that will have to right itself on it's own or bring the whole thing down into an eternal pile of misery and bitterness towards that which ought to be a source of entertainment. There's only so many attempts and angles you can take something like that from before you just start to look like a preacher and it becomes clear that that's just what people want to do. Anyway depending on the week and the focus of the episode, this season it's been the duo of Sword Art Online and Accel World. The former got caught up in this massive hype bubble that has seen it see-saw between either the greatest thing ever or a brutal disappointment and sign of anime's decline from week to week, and the latter has had about the most butthurt I've seen over a character design possibly ever that had been following it almost the whole way though and used as IMO a cheap tool with which to criticize the series over. I'm honestly not sure how either is going to be remembered in the end, but I've pretty much been greatly enjoying both even through their peaks and valleys. |
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2012-09-24, 04:05 | Link #398 |
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I don't see what's wrong with hating a show. It's the same with hating certain foods you don't like. The very sight of it can make you nauseous, and want to vomit.
Certain anime can trigger the same response. Sure I can avoid it, but whatever little contact I have with it feels icky and unclean. Of course, if you hate a show and keep watching it, then you're just a masochist.
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2012-09-24, 04:15 | Link #399 |
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There's nothing wrong with hate. Expressing a great disdain for the way you spent your time, if it was very negative, is a perfectly natural thing to do.
For example I hated Haruhi's endless 8 because it was the ultimate insult to a loyal fanbase, a complete slap in the face. Especially someone like me who actually purchased the first season, so yeah I had more than enough reason to be resentful. Why do people waste their time sometimes watching things they hate? Maybe because being bored is even worse .
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2012-09-24, 10:08 | Link #400 | |
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a) Moyashimon (I think) b) Strike Witches, Umineko, K-On, etc
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