2011-08-22, 22:36 | Link #101 | |
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Ideally, the current trend see a scaling back of excess anime production (perhaps by a third), an increase in shorter works, and an emphasis on more original works. Well, the real ideal would be for anime to make money on regular Japanese (and North American) viewers, but that's sort of water under the bridge.
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2011-08-22, 23:44 | Link #102 |
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Originally, I watched Pokemon and Dragonball Z. Eventually the lack of a solid plot deterred me from the series, when I went to Bleach,Gurren Lagann, and Naruto.
As I grew older, my tastes merely change. Now I have a weak spot for ecchi ,harems in addition to psychological anime. More recently, I've been watching darker seinen anime. I'll probably never quit watching anime if there continues to be a firm storyline in place to hold my attention.
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2011-08-23, 00:51 | Link #104 |
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Hmmm, I'd say if someone thinks they're "growing out of" anime.... they probably only liked/watched one kind of anime to begin with - likely action shounen designed for youngsters. There's anime designed for 20-somethings and anime that even "old people" can appreciate (many of the seinen offerings or some of the shoujo even).
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2011-08-23, 10:18 | Link #105 | |
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Over all though there are some very healthy signs in the Anime industry at the moment. Particularly the uptick in original productions, and the decrease in visual novel cashins (which were all generally subpar, with some exceptions). I think the biggest sign of financial problems in 2008-2010 was the lack of Mecha or high profile "action" series. Those tend to be more expensive and a bit more "risky". However we're seeing a slow and gradual return to those. Another sign is that series are on the shorter side, so in 2006 1 cours series were 13 or even 14 episodes, while now 11 or 12 is more common. This is particularly apparent if you look at noitaminA. |
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2011-08-23, 13:58 | Link #106 | ||
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The reason why Visual Novels were used as adaptation sources was largely due to availability reasons (among others), and light novels have largely replaced them. It's not that substantial an improvement. I'd be happier if quality shows sold more instead. Quote:
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2011-08-23, 14:05 | Link #107 | |
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I think the key is to have low expectations. This applies not just to anime btw. Video games - especially Multiplayer ones and indie ones - are another case where I feel this way. And it does help if people just try to go with the flow than to take up the mantle of being the critic. Being a critic isn't at all worth it unless you are being paid for it. Sure you can think about it and develop an opinion about it but to go into such detailed analysis - and be as it may, we all know that most criticism focuses on only the negative which has the effect of re-enforcing the doubts - is just not worth it. It only kills the fun you could otherwise have. Especially while you are watching the anime. Leave the serious discussions for later. Watch the show to enjoy it first. |
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2011-08-23, 14:24 | Link #108 | |
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2011-08-23, 14:50 | Link #109 | |
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2011-08-24, 15:02 | Link #110 | |
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But you know I love 2006 too! and that's why I will not compromise myself into watching shit that are being spewed out recently. I guess it makes sense why 2006 has so many anime since that's the year with the greatest number of anime being made (I thought that the number of anime per year increased after 2006 or something because of all the crap anime but no... it's because they made so much anime that there was so many good ones if you think about it in percentage lke top 5% or something). some people say they still make a couple good ones but I wouldn't know since I don't have time to watch and not to mention the betrayals of anime that were just shit despite the praise. I don't like being tricked lol. But really it's the time-factor.... oh and it's slayers next NOT slayers that's praised. (unless you just felt like saying slayesr to cover all 3 seasons)
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2011-08-24, 15:33 | Link #111 | ||
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2008 through 2010 also a decline in number of Anime released, so consequently the amount of good anime also decreased. 2011, however, has seen an increase again. I can only presume the world economy had something to with this (2008-2010 happens to coincide with the world financial crisis...). However there's still plenty of great anime. Tatami Galaxy, Bakemonogatari, FMA: brotherhood, Madoka... You just need to use MAL's search function, rank by score and input the years desired and you should get a decent snapshot of the good anime that year. |
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2011-08-24, 16:10 | Link #112 | |
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I don't think I could ever again be a 80% shonen anime fan (as I was at one time), but there are types of anime other than shonen, and I think that some of those types often have characters and/or stories that can appeal to an older audience. There might come a time that I'm simply tired of anime, but I wouldn't consider that the same as "growing out of it".
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2011-08-24, 17:23 | Link #116 | |
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2011-08-24, 17:54 | Link #118 | |
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2011-08-24, 19:00 | Link #119 | |
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Going down the list on MAL, I haven't seen: * Slam Dunk (Sports Shonen-> little interest) * Romeo no Aoi Sora (No interest, due to above) * Yu Yu Hakusho (Shonen-> little interest) * Berserk (probably should watch that) * Kodomo no Omocha (ehhhh) * Flanders no Inu (Same as Romeo) * Slayers Next (no real interest) And that's the first page, I've seen every other thing on the first page (14 titles), and a fair few on the next one. I've seen the likes of Trigun and Giant Robo and found those brands of 90s stuff to be not to my taste. I've also watched some 80s titles as well. Now if you're saying there's some amazing Anime that's not on that list (perfectly possible), due to a) being somehow overlooked by the 1000s of Anime fans out there or b) not being fansubbed, then I admit that there would be perhaps more. But I have no way of meaningfully knowing the existence of those titles. If I was somehow alerted to those titles I'd watch them and probably enjoy them (as I have with LoGH, Gunbuster, Cowboy Bebop, All the Ghibli movies...) but as they have not been brought to my attention through either a) buzz or b) presence on MAL or ANN's top list, there's little I can do. |
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2011-08-24, 19:38 | Link #120 | |
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But to word it differently, my anime tastes were always diverse, and I'm pretty damn burnt out from my peak days of watching (2004-2007ish). So while Vexx's theory may be accurate for some, I don't think it describes my predicament. I've actually been trying to get back into the hobby for about a year now, with little success. I think the idea of 'growing out of it' kind of stems from people who watched anime during their adolescence or childhood, loved it, and gradually changed as people over the years (as we all do) and find it harder to gain enjoyment. So it's not necessarily because of being more mature or anything like that, but rather the individual's tastes and interests being variable and always evolving, with the most rapid changes usually happening during adolescence. I know the person I am today versus the person who registered to this forum in 2004 are very different. My maturity is not the reason I gain less enjoyment from anime. But the changes that have occurred with age, perhaps not in relation to maturity but rather just natural waxing and waning of passions, are definitely a component. Really, I have trouble enjoying most forms of fiction nowadays (some exceptions, of course) whereas I used to love it. I'm becoming a boring non-fiction guy, I guess, lol. |
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