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A truly altruistic act is when you let somebody else have the higher value item instead of you, imo. It's in putting the other person first. Quote:
I know a few harder, gruffer men that hate having "mushy feelings" (including the warm fuzzies) and frankly don't care what other people think of them, but that doesn't stop them from showing generosity from time-to-time. People really do sometimes take actions and deeds primarily (if not solely) for the sake of other people. Quote:
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We disagree on philosophy, but we agree on Sayaka and Madoka. So, if you want to discuss altruism/selfishness (apart from its direct relevance to this anime), let's do it over PMs please. Quote:
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I'm with you here, Kaijo. Barring real evidence that Kyubey gets some sadistic pleasure out of preying on girls, I think that the "pedophile" term is misplaced here.
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2011-02-08, 14:11 | Link #1342 | |
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And yes,good remarks about the t-800 and robocop comparaison and also on the "system" getting corrupt over time.Those are some nice food for thought.
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2011-02-08, 14:24 | Link #1343 | |
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And if anything, strawman fallacies from some people of the opposing opinion are NOT going to convince others. Aforementioned fallacies I start seeing a little too much here. |
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2011-02-08, 14:34 | Link #1344 | ||
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I think that there are some words that have such a strong negative connotation attached to them, that to use them in a figurative sense requires a very high standard. It's like calling someone "a nazi" just because they can be a bit overly strict every now and then. It's excessive, imo, and it paints a far darker picture than what's really there. Quote:
Besides, I don't see where excessive hyperbole is any better than a strawman argument (indeed, the two are often one and the same).
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2011-02-08, 14:49 | Link #1346 | |
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In fact a strawman argument and a hyperbole are not the same at all as I never tried to change the subject just emphasize how I feel towards it. It just some, like yourself, who have decided to pull this comment out and use to make me sound extreme in my views.
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Even I would admit that Kyubey's approach to some girls can come across as being like predatory lending practices.
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2011-02-08, 14:56 | Link #1348 | |
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Of course I know you probably don't agree with that statement,but thats another story.
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2011-02-08, 23:06 | Link #1349 | |
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A huge difference, eh? I bet if I was serious and not just making a point, a mod would step in and issue a warning for name-calling (and may anyway, which would prove me right ;p). I've seen this far too often on places like Fox News. "I'm not calling him a Nazi, just that I see him as one." One knows very well what reactions one is going to invoke in others when one chooses to use certain descriptive terminology. And it's really hard to think of someone as a sexual predator, when they are going around handing out wishes and trying to raise champions to defend humanity against a very real scourge. I see a lot of people as twisted as they claim Kyube is. Sure, let's kill the little creature that is humanity's only defense. Why? Because he's different! And I dun like peeple that r different. |
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2011-02-08, 23:08 | Link #1350 |
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It took a while, but I've noticed a rather disturbing pattern in the series. In 4 out of the 5 aired episodes, Madoka and/or Sayaka are saved at the last minute from being killed or forming a contract.
That speaks of the writer falling into a habit, a bad one, I think. |
2011-02-08, 23:43 | Link #1351 | |
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2011-02-09, 01:43 | Link #1353 | |
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I think it rather speaks badly of alot of people here, who are unable to grasp the significance behind it. The storytelling point that the writer is making here is that QB is almost persecuting Madoka and Sayaka in his drive to contract them, and it's up to the gullibility of the viewer to determine whether the high number of pressure/danger situation is a mere coincidence or not. Last edited by Mentar; 2011-02-09 at 01:55. |
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2011-02-09, 02:42 | Link #1354 | ||
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While I don't believe him to be wholly similar to a pedophile I do find that in the same light they prey on little girls he does also. While I know you must think it is every little girls hope and dreams to throw their future away so they risk dangers and death for the rest of their lives for one wish, which they might or might not come to regret. You have to wonder if these girls are physical and emotionally ready for the kind of life making the contract leads them into. You can't place all the responsibility on them. You asking a lot of children and very little of QB, who should have the experience and knowledge to know what will probably happen. He's the closest one we have to an adult here but he's taking advantage of their naivete instead. Let the pedophile issue drop. You don't have to agree with me. I've already given you more than once my reasoning behind it. I don't really care if you think its a hyperbole cause I see it as being a pretty fair comparison, though not a direct comparison. Quote:
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2011-02-09, 06:52 | Link #1355 | |
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Let me remind you that people's general opinion is generally derived from first impressions, those are the hardest to die unless they are dispelled through a convincing story told in a convincing manner. Bottomline, drop that strawman and hyperbole shit now, you are not going to convince me to think otherwise of Kyuubey with this kind of shenanigans. You only look more desprate in my eyes. |
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2011-02-09, 09:36 | Link #1356 |
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Urobuchi "Hey everyone, you've enjoyed it until episode 5? Well, the roller coaster now at its peak, time for guidance has ended! What's left is to leave the story to whatever my body could come up with. Since I'm writing it so that you want to watch the next episode, if you don't quit it by episode 3, and able to watch it until episode 6, I believe you'll be able to enjoy it until the end."
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action-packed. I also think it might mean a lot of episode cliffhangers. Could be quite the thrill ride!
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2011-02-09, 10:21 | Link #1359 | |
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