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Old 2015-10-08, 02:03   Link #41
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was anyone else yelling "JUST GET OUT OF THE WAY OF THE TRAIN TRACKS YOU IDIOTS"

Anyways, it was a cool episode, though i dont know anything about the series, it looks to be pretty intense especially with that preview
What's more than yelling out of the way...

was the people that was watching the poles come down slowly without doing a thing and while they saw the train coming they just go "gasp" and stand there like nobody's business while the little boy is like 2 arm reach away.... LOL

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And yea, the 180 degree turn of the father... makes me want to jump into the anime and slap him so hard, his brain will fly out.

But than I realized this is the exact reason why Black Jack turns out to be what he is in the future... who only treats those that can actually pay the money.

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Old 2015-10-10, 00:31   Link #42
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Lol, the latest episode had quite a bit of ...what I would call, manservice.

The show still has my interest quite a bit though and loving these metaphors:
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Old 2015-10-10, 02:18   Link #43
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Ep 02

I...really am not quite sure what to think of this series...it is...clumsy and awkward, yes, but it has a wierd...earnestness I guess, at the same time. It does not really rivet my attention, but at the same time I appreciate what it seems to be trying to do.

Hmm...well, I guess I will try the next ep?
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Old 2015-10-10, 03:00   Link #44
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I've only watched episode one, but I'm pretty taken with it. That episode had a kind of classic simplicity: images, characters, and story. Old-fashioned and formalized, with too much Ayn Rand about it for me, and a sort of juvenile feeling -- but thrilling, elegant, strong. It's a myth, something I think anime is well-suited to.

And the OP and ED are outstanding, each in its own way.
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Old 2015-10-10, 03:51   Link #45
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pretty rushed and anticlimatic ending
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Old 2015-10-10, 03:56   Link #46
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Damn... not good at all.
Poor Hazama got himself in a pretty serious mess.
Those sect people were even worse than the criminals..
That was one unusual outcome.
Still, all is well that ends well.
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Old 2015-10-10, 09:43   Link #47
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What Hazama pulled at the end was classic Black Jack. Hell, he'll do exactly the same thing with another patient decades later. I'm hoping to see original stories out of this though.
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Old 2015-10-10, 09:55   Link #48
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what's the Yen-Dollar conversion at that time?
i'm re-watching black jack and he just demanded 10-30 millions in episode 1 just from non-fatal injuries
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Old 2015-10-10, 10:59   Link #49
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Ep 02

I...really am not quite sure what to think of this series...it is...clumsy and awkward, yes, but it has a wierd...earnestness I guess, at the same time. It does not really rivet my attention, but at the same time I appreciate what it seems to be trying to do.

Hmm...well, I guess I will try the next ep?
I feel the same. I like the earnestness, the attempt to tackle serious topics, and the Hazamanservice; but frankly I'm put off by how simplistic and cartoonish it can be, the melodrama and the really annoying art style clashes.

Next episode, maybe... at least I can hear more of Umehara. This is a nice role for him.
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Old 2015-10-10, 18:09   Link #50
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What Hazama pulled at the end was classic Black Jack. Hell, he'll do exactly the same thing with another patient decades later. I'm hoping to see original stories out of this though.
Yeah, I've not read this 'prequel' manga which this show is based on, but I have read some of the original Tezuka manga, and really I think this captured something of the spirit of the original. Which is a good thing.

Kind of looking forward to next week, as you can't really do that time period without doing something about Vietnam. Even in countries not involved (thankfully the UK had a government who didn't want to be America's war lackeys) it was still a major news issue of the time.
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Old 2015-10-10, 19:29   Link #51
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It's kinda hard to get into the atmosphere when almost every other character is an over the top caricature but I did like the moral dilemma that Hazama found himself in (reminds me of Death Parade) and the twist at the end (although it did rely on the improbability of a frail old man having the same build as a young fit immigrant). Good episode overall.

However, if you have a dying daughter and you're in foreign country about to give your heart away so you can get the money to save your daughter, it might be wise to establish whether that money will actually reach your daughter before you go through with the operation. And no, trusting the guy about to commit a crime is not good enough.

Also, for a frail old man with a dying heart, he was able to throw that wad of cash pretty forcefully.

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Old 2015-10-11, 01:34   Link #52
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So Hazama was first forced to become the donor. But when the doctor didn't show up because he went underground, Hazama became the surgeon. The old man died anyway so he turn that other guy into the old man.

Hazama was about to perform a heart transplant which no one has ever done successfully and on top of that, he wass doing it in the black market.

All this could be more interesting if they actually show the operation. It is somewhat interesting still, but it could be much more better. The way they switched from heart transplant to plastic surgery felt a bit weird. It still had that little bit that people would do anything for some money including simply giving up their lives.
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Old 2015-10-11, 04:44   Link #53
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Yeah, I've not read this 'prequel' manga which this show is based on, but I have read some of the original Tezuka manga, and really I think this captured something of the spirit of the original. Which is a good thing.
Agree.

After the thrilling (IMO) first episode, I wonder how the second episode will be.
Turned out it managed to capture the spirit of the original (same with you, I just read some of the original Tezuka manga; I'm following Black Jack from its anime, not the manga) which I'm truly pleased with.
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Old 2015-10-12, 15:04   Link #54
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What Hazama pulled at the end was classic Black Jack. Hell, he'll do exactly the same thing with another patient decades later. I'm hoping to see original stories out of this though.
Yep, leave it to Black Jack to pull off medical procedures the real world wouldn't be able to do until decades later.
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Old 2015-10-13, 19:51   Link #55
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They way they keep on talking about money in the millions, feels like the amount of money in old age Japan isn't all that much, and the 5000 (ep 2 says 50,000) is like pocket change to middle and higher class families.

In fact, even in today's world, the word million is just 10,000.

Asian goes by: one, ten, hundred, thousand, million.
That is: 1, 10, 100, 1000, 10000.

so 5 million is just 50,000, and if translated to estimated current day currency, that's like 500 USD or something.

So, what Hazama asked in ep 1 to save the kid's arm and legs, wasn't all that farfetched or asked too much at all... 500 USD to not be amputated, pretty sure everyone in current world would agree to that amount.
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Old 2015-10-13, 21:04   Link #56
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Just so many mistakes in this episode who lets the people you kidnap go like that
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Old 2015-10-14, 16:57   Link #57
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Ep 2: I won't complain about an unrealistic twist at the end, as something similar came up in the original manga; impossible operations are total Black Jack. What I do object to is that the heart transplant was given such a lot of background, and the operation that actually took place, none at all. Even the most outlandish explanation would have made the ending feel less unconvincing and rushed, after a tense, solid first half.
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Old 2015-10-15, 07:45   Link #58
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Asian goes by: one, ten, hundred, thousand, million.
That is: 1, 10, 100, 1000, 10000.

so 5 million is just 50,000, and if translated to estimated current day currency, that's like 500 USD or something.

So, what Hazama asked in ep 1 to save the kid's arm and legs, wasn't all that farfetched or asked too much at all... 500 USD to not be amputated, pretty sure everyone in current world would agree to that amount.
Pretty sure he asked for "gohyakuman en", which is literally 500 times 10,000 yen = 5,000,000 yen.
I don't know what the exchange rate was in 1968 but it's still a huge amount of money.
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Old 2015-10-15, 11:19   Link #59
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Pretty sure he asked for "gohyakuman en", which is literally 500 times 10,000 yen = 5,000,000 yen.
I don't know what the exchange rate was in 1968 but it's still a huge amount of money.
The exchange rate of Dollar yen prior to what is now known as the Nixon shock was 360 yen to the dollar but the value of US dollar was based on gold at those time as well.(Now known as the gold standard)
If I remember correctly a freshman's salary right out of collage at those times was about 50,000 to 100,000 yen and the color TV set was around 300,000yen.
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Old 2015-10-16, 01:52   Link #60
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Today i watched latest episode.
Story is about vietnam war AWOL soldier.
IS anyone watched new episode?
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