(L) ef - a tale of melodies

[Kaoru Chujo]

My question is: where's Chihiro? Is she in Australia or in Japan? And if it's Japan, has she been cured, or are they taking a big chance by being so far apart?

The sign on the wall at the railway station in ep1 was definitely a Japanese sign, but I guess that could have just been an error, or localized for the audience.

I guess any answer may count as spoilerable speculation.

To tell the truth, I was still dubious after episode one. I thought they might have been joking about Australia. (NOTE: I mean that Renji might have been joking, not that posters here were.)

[guuchan]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

My question is: where's Chihiro? Is she in Australia or in Japan? And if it's Japan, has she been cured, or are they taking a big chance by being so far apart?

She's in Australia. By "cured", you mean her memory problem? If so, nope. She still lives by her diary, unless they changed that for anime.

The sign on the wall at the railway station in ep1 was definitely a Japanese sign, but I guess that could have just been an error, or localized for the audience.

It's the latter case, I guess.

To tell the truth, I was still dubious after episode one. I thought they might have been joking about Australia.

Actually the anime already makes it clear by stating it right in the first episode. In the game, they don't tell you it's Australia till the very end.

[KaneDragon]

Originally Posted by guuchan

In the game, they don't tell you it's Australia till the very end.

What a twist!!!

[todkapuz]

Really enjoyed episode 2...

Spoiler for just in case?:

the various confession styles were a bit interesting... I am starting to like mi-zu-ki ... i dont know why...

hm... yeah... if they hadn't said it.... I wouldnt' believe it... but then again just about every where looks liek Japan when Japan is doing foriegn area bits... I guess to me it doesnt realyl matter where the story is all that much... all that matters is the incredible amount of symbolism and hidden details.... already seeing some connections back to the other story that I missed before

[cheesie]

May I know what does everyone think of Chihiro's sub efforts for Episode 2? I've seen many people giving Chihiro flak with other series for not doing karaokes, typsetting, fonts, quality of the video (which I personally find the least important) and finally, bad translations and timing. These last two aspects are the most important for me, and I've heard that Chihiro's subs were, er, left something to be desired. I read in their website that they're gonna go full out on EF, and I appreciate that they're pooling time into it, but could anyone verify if the translations are at least dead on, starting from Episode 2?

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by crisis

May I know what does everyone think of Chihiro's sub efforts for Episode 2? I've seen many people giving Chihiro flak with other series for not doing karaokes, typsetting, fonts, quality of the video (which I personally find the least important) and finally, bad translations and timing. These last two aspects are the most important for me, and I've heard that Chihiro's subs were, er, left something to be desired. I read in their website that they're gonna go full out on EF, and I appreciate that they're pooling time into it, but could anyone verify if the translations are at least dead on, starting from Episode 2?

This isn't the thread to be asking or answering questions like that, sorry.

[Vegard Aune]

*Just finished watching the second episode*
In general, it seems like most of what I'd say has already been said, so I'll just mention one thing I noticed... That text in the eyecatchers... Is that "Eternal Feather" translated into german? The english translation at least matches up with the lyrics from that song. I didn't notice it in episode 1, because I only saw the "pre-release" of that one, so it didn't have those lines translated. (Though being that they're german, and not japanese, I'm not sure if I like that they ARE translated in the first place...)

Oh, and the subbing for the opening made it completely impossible for me to take it seriously... I agree with... Some guy... there's no way that the singer actually SAID "I wish I could see your insides".

[Keruri]

Originally Posted by thenightsshadow

Actually, on the second-to-the-last line, it sounds more like
"You know what our lives would have been".

What do you think?

Hmm. Listening to it again, you're most likely correct. That was the line I had the most difficult time translating, to be honest. Thank you!

[Sorrow-K]

Ep 2

Another episode with about a million things in it, ranging from meaningful dialogue to symbolisms. The backstory about Yuu and Yuuko's time in the orphanage was so well done (Asc has already pointed out the parallels between their story and that of Kei and Hirono) but the thing that I'm most interested in so far is Kuze, and exactly what the meaning of his dream is. The imagery of the entire scene, and the two Kuze's talking in abstractions to the rhythm of a metronome was so highly creative (this show is packed to the rafters with creativity) and I'm really looking forward to finding out just what it all means.

[thenightsshadow]

Originally Posted by Keruri

Hmm. Listening to it again, you're most likely correct. That was the line I had the most difficult time translating, to be honest. Thank you!

No problem.
It's kind of ironic that I'm a (if not the) music blogger as well, and I haven't gotten any lyrics in Engrish right yet XD

[Vegard Aune]

Originally Posted by crisis

May I know what does everyone think of Chihiro's sub efforts for Episode 2? I've seen many people giving Chihiro flak with other series for not doing karaokes, typsetting, fonts, quality of the video (which I personally find the least important) and finally, bad translations and timing. These last two aspects are the most important for me, and I've heard that Chihiro's subs were, er, left something to be desired. I read in their website that they're gonna go full out on EF, and I appreciate that they're pooling time into it, but could anyone verify if the translations are at least dead on, starting from Episode 2?

Despite this post:

Originally Posted by Shiroth

This isn't the thread to be asking or answering questions like that, sorry.

I'm gonna say my opinion anyway: In general, they're doing a pretty good job, even though I can't take the opening seriously with the lyrics they put up. Ugh, why does the one part of the episode where I actually want to turn the subtitles off also have to be the only part that's hardsubbed?


EDIT:

Originally Posted by myself

That text in the eyecatchers... Is that "Eternal Feather" translated into german? The english translation at least matches up with the lyrics from that song.

Going by my inherent ability to recognise some german words due to them being similar to the same words in norwegian, it seems that the opening also shows the lyrics for that song in the background, though I don't think ALL of the text was from that song. Well, I guess I'll just have to wait for someone who actually understands german properly, and who bothers to put up a translation before I can be entirely sure.

EDIT AGAIN:
On second thought, no need to. I wrote down the words and typed them into Google Translator, and figured some of it out...

Spoiler for Lengthy summary of all the stuff I've figured out so far:

Erinnerungen, die wiedererwachen
In dieser Brust verschlossen

Der ferne Himmel jenseits des Fensters
Die unerreichbaren Wolken beobachtetend

This part is a german translation of "Eternal Feather", just like I thought

it einem Lächeln auf
dem Heimweg
Meine irgendwann verlorene
Stimme suchend
Wenn die Dunkelheit
die Erinnerung zerschneidet
Auch jezt hört
es nicht auf

This, I believe, is "Emotional Flutter", the theme from "ef - the latter tale".

Auch jezt hört es nicht auf
Vom Himmel schwebt herab

Another line from "Emotional Flutter".

Der ferne Himmel jenseits des Fensters
Die unerreichbaren Wolken beobachtetend
Das verletzte Herz wird geheilt
Einen zärtlichen Ton hörte ich
Aus meiner Hand entgleitet die Splitter des Traumes
Um die verlorende Antwort zu suchen, renne ich los
Hinweg über die Zeit der Begegnung
Zwei Händ, die sich übereinander legen
Erinnerungen, die weidererwachen
In dieser Brust verschlossen
Die vergossene Gestalt suchen
Die Trauer, beende sie
ich glaube an Dich, aber ich machne mir Sorgen
Deine Stimme ist mir im Traum begegnet
Vor Angst verletzt zu werden, erzeuge ich ein falsches Lacheln
Verwundbarer Mut wird hervorgebracht, wenn wir zu zweit wären
Gefrorener Schmerz
Wenn er in Wärme gewandelt wird
Die Glocke, sie ertönt
Bis in die unendliche Zukunft
Fliege hoch, hoch in den Himmel
Auch wenn Du keine Flügel hast

Eternal Feather again... The lyrics for the entire song, actually.

Going by the fact that everything I've found so far is either from "Eternal Feather" or "Emotional Flutter", I can only assume that there's also some stuff from "Euphoric Field" and "Ever Forever" in there too.

[yjs]

I think the show is trying to incorporate 'creativity' into the dialogue and art that it's starting to become a little excessive and preventing the actual plot from being understood properly. But I guess the target audience of this show are people who have actually played the game or have immediate access to it.

The relationships being played out in tale of melodies is just not as compelling as they were in the first season, although we're only up to episode 2... No explanation has been given about the Chihiro, and what's up with Renji? And what about the other couple?

The Kuze hallucination (?) scenes are beyond weird and I have no idea what they are meant to symbolise. School-age Yuu seems like your typical emo-for-no-reason male lead who's too stupid to realise that girls are chasing him left right and centre.

I hope this show becomes better, because I really enjoyed the first season. But right now I'm very confused about everything and the artistic imagery is not helping. Don't get started about Otowa being in Australia... God damn that is trippy.

[KaneDragon]

Originally Posted by yjs

The relationships being played out in tale of melodies is just not as compelling as they were in the first season, although we're only up to episode 2... No explanation has been given about the Chihiro, and what's up with Renji? And what about the other couple?

They aren't the focus anymore. Their stories are over. Though maybe they'll get some time anyway. And like you said, this is only episode 2.

Originally Posted by yjs

The Kuze hallucination (?) scenes are beyond weird and I have no idea what they are meant to symbolise. School-age Yuu seems like your typical emo-for-no-reason male lead who's too stupid to realise that girls are chasing him left right and centre.

"Typical" and "emo" aside, how's "lost his parents, watched his sister die in a fire while she called out to him, and had to work to support himself since no one else would take him" for a reason?

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Spoiler for ep2:

Mah... To me, Kuze-->Mizuki=Crime, so he's always Kuzu to me.

ep 2

Spoiler:

Like I said though,

Mizuki-->Kuze=A-OK!

Which seems to be what is happening at the moment. The poor guy didn't as for any of it, in fact, he is trying to escape love or any form of attachment with anyone.

Another interesting episode from the series. I have to say that Kuze's story is definitely the more interesting of the two, for now anyway. After all the hints Yuu seems to have given through his flashbacks, I don't know what other surprises they can give us (maybe some shock therapy will help set him straight).

But judging at the sight of the current Yuu... ^^'

Still, I enjoy the metaphors and whatnot from Kuze's side of the story but I hope they won't try to overdose with the questions without answers.

Loved the scene when Mizuki was trying to kill Kuze (though not intentionally...I'm surprised he didn't wake up with a large bump on his head).

[Traece]

I actually got a nice hard laugh out of Kuze's music joke in this episode.

Honestly, I was in the same place as Mizuki when he was rambling on about his first love.

He threw out such an obvious hint too with the dad's name, and I learned something today. The two-hundred years comment was another hilarious hint. But when he said 'metronome' I just burst into laughter. I was as clueless as poor Mizuki until he said what his first love actually was.

The rest of it was all ok. The whole thing on the rooftop was cute as well. Mizuki's little thing at the end wasn't as enjoyable though. It was a little to blunt for my tastes.

[Solafighter]

Nice episode.

Im looking forward to the next one.
The series is going to be better and better, like expected from the makers of Tale of memories.

[Shiroth]

I just love how Kuze's 'two mask scene' was so Utena.

[Liingo]

Just watched the Chihiro sub of episode 2. As far as I can tell, their subs seem to be fairly accurate, which is good as I won't have to wait as long to watch each new episode

Good episode altogether, with lots of information to flesh out the characters. The Kuze X Mizugi pair looks to be the more interesting of the two so far. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out, especially as it seems that Kuze has some terminal heart condition.

I don't think I've seen anyone else say it yet, but the naming convention seems to be following that of the first season, just that this time they're going backwards (See Below).

E
B
U
L
I
E
N
T

F
U
T
Union
Read
Ever (Ep 1)

14 characters total, exactly the same as the first season.

Looking forward to discussing the rest of the series with you all.

[cheesie]

Much appreciation from me for replying to my questions regarding Chihiro. I usually do a bit of research about the fansub groups I intend to follow, and no one seemed to discuss much about the translations (usually flaming on other less relevant issues). I'm relieved that their works are fairly accurate even with their speed. (Cross fingers that it'll be consistent.)

[SuperKnuckles]

Originally Posted by Traece

I actually got a nice hard laugh out of Kuze's music joke in this episode.

Honestly, I was in the same place as Mizuki when he was rambling on about his first love.

He threw out such an obvious hint too with the dad's name, and I learned something today. The two-hundred years comment was another hilarious hint. But when he said 'metronome' I just burst into laughter. I was as clueless as poor Mizuki until he said what his first love actually was.

The rest of it was all ok. The whole thing on the rooftop was cute as well. Mizuki's little thing at the end wasn't as enjoyable though. It was a little to blunt for my tastes.

I don't know. I rather like Mizuki's bluntness. That's basically all of her charm. Like blunting Kuze's head. All literal, not too much room for philosophizing, etc. I guess in a way, she's the perfect counterpart to Kuze who obviously thinks too deeply because of his illness and his self realization of multiple personalities and identities. Mizuki has NONE of those. So I think even her bluntness and the seeming flatness of her scenes serves a real purpose.

I think ep 2 did a great job of bringing a lot of background stuff under wraps for the most part. Now until the time something terrible happens to Yuuko..