Revolutionary anime

[mechdra]

There had been many anime that change the anime industry once and for all and I would like to discuss what anime do you think is revolutionary? For this year, Amagami SS and Yosuga no Sora are the ones I think will changed the dating sim genre. Amagami with its multiple stories and Yosuga no Sora with its controversial scenes and stories. PSG's interesting graphic is another one worth mentioning.

However, some of them cause a more negative impact like NGE and Gundam SEED Destiny where I can see that it affects the way anime were made due to director's fear of being murdered. There are many more but this are my highlights, what do you think?

[GundamFan0083]

Two anime instantly come to mind.

Gundam 0079 (the 1979 anime series) and Space Battleship Yamato.

Without those two, the Sci-Fi genre of anime would not be what it is today IMHO.

[Sheba]

I don't even think that Amagami should be qualified as revolutionary. The omnibus format seems to have been chosen so the director don't upset otakus because their "waifu" route and ending have not been animated.

[roriconfan]

Originally Posted by mechdra

There had been many anime that change the anime industry once and for all and I would like to discuss what anime do you think is revolutionary? For this year, Amagami SS and Yosuga no Sora are the ones I think will changed the dating sim genre. Amagami with its multiple stories and Yosuga no Sora with its controversial scenes and stories. PSG's interesting graphic is another one worth mentioning.

Amagami is already considered to be subpar for having bad transition from one arc to another. No, Clannad still is the queen of date sims.

Yosuga no Sora has negative hype all over the place. And it is not even revolutionary. Aki Sora is. The anime version is equally negative but the manga version is great.

It is hard to talk about revolutionary anime in recent years as new anime feel a lot like taking ideas from earlier works.

I had this list of memorable anime by year and the older titles were easily given a description of why they are famous. Newer anime on the other hand feel good for beeing just a better version of an earlier work

Spoiler for don't mind the weird letters in brankets:

1945 (L-0, G-1, M-0) (3 points)
(G) Momotaro - Divine Soldiers of the Sea - first high budget animated film (blunt propaganda; I say Area 88 is all this sort of movies should ever be) (R)

1963 (L-0, G-2, M-0) (6 points)
(G) Astro Boy – first Mecha title (turned obsolete by Ghost in the Shell) (R)
(G) Gigantor (Tetsujin 28) – first man-machine cooperation (Tengen Toppa Guren Lagann has everything this lacks) (R)

1964 (L-1, G-0, M-0) (1 point)
(L) Kimba the White Lion (R)

1966 (L-1, G-1, M-0) (4 points)

(L) Cyborg 009 – This is sort of the grandfather of Kamen Rider. Same premise but with less context. Well, both are made by Ishinomori Shoutarou, who had the bad habit of reusing 99% of the same storyline in his works. Plus, nobody cared back then, so it was fine. Still, this anime had no chance next to Astro Boys’ far richer characterization. And as I said, it was soon scrapped for the Kamen Rider franchise.

(G) Mahou Tsukai Sally – first Mahou Shoujo title (modern Mahout Shoujo are far more interesting)

1967 (L-0, G-2, M-0) (6 points)
(G) Princess Knight (Ribbon no Kishi) – first gender confusion title (turned obsolete by Utena)
(G) Speed Racer (Go Go Go) – first Sports anime (turned obsolete by Initial D) (R)

1968 (L-0, G-1, M-0) (3 points)
(G) Gegege no Kitarou – first horror (modern horror anime are far more interesting)

1970 (L-0, G-1, M-0) (3 points)
(G) Ashita no Joe – successful Sports title (turned obsolete by Hajime no Ippo)

1971 (L-0, G-1, M-0) (3 points)
(G) Lupin the Third – first Action/Adventure (One Piece has the same and more fun than this)

1972 (L-1, G-2, M-0) (7 points)
(G) Gatchaman – first use of the 5 member sentai team (Tengen Toppa Guren Lagann has everything this lacks) (R)
(G) Mazinger Z – first piloted Mecha title (Tengen Toppa Guren Lagann has everything this lacks)
(L) Devilman (R)

1973 (L-1, G-2, M-0) (7 points)
(G) Doraemon – successful children’s series (nothing bad about it but it’s damn too simplistic)
(G) Cutey Honey – first multi-genre title (still good although the ecchi plague of the late 00’s make it look simple)
(L) Kannashimi no Belladonna (R)

1974 (L-0, G-3, M-0) (9 points)
(G) Alps no Shoujo Heidi – great historical drama (not bad but historical social dramas are out of fashion) (R)
(G) Getter Robo – first transforming Mecha title (Tengen Toppa Guren Lagann has everything this lacks)
(G) Star Blazers (Battleship Yamato) – first Space Opera (turned obsolete by Legend of Galactic Heroes) (R)

1975 (L-0, G-1, M-0) (3 points)
(G) UFO Robo Grendizer – first dramatic backdrop in Mecha title (Tengen Toppa Guren Lagann has everything this lacks)

1976 (L-0, G-1, M-0) (3 points)
(G) Candy Candy – great historical drama (not bad but historical social dramas are out of fashion) (R)

1977 (L-1, G-1, M-0) (4 points)
(G) Voltes V – first «full» Mecha title (Tengen Toppa Guren Lagann has everything this lacks)
(L) Dinosaur Wars Eisenborg (R)

1978 (L-0, G-2, M-0) (6 points)
(G) Captain Harlock – great Space Opera (turned obsolete by Legend of Galactic Heroes and One Piece)
(G) Galaxy Express 999 – great Space Opera (turned obsolete by Legend of Galactic Heroes and Kaiba)

1979 (L-2, G-2, M-0) (8 points)
(G) Rose of Versailles – first dynamic female character in Shoujo anime (turned obsolete by Utena)
(G) Gundam 0079 – first mature Mecha title (turned obsolete by Legend of Galactic Heroes) (R)
(L) Thundersub (R)
(L) The Ultraman (R)

1980 (L-1, G-1, M-0) (4 points)
(G) Densetsu Kyojin Ideon – first psychological Mecha title (turned obsolete by Neon Genesis Evagelion) (R)
(L) Wonderful Adventures of Nils (R)

1981 (L-3, G-1, M-0) (6 points)
(G) Urusei Yatsura – great slapstick school comedy (still good, albeit storyless comedies have become tiresome to a great extend in the latest years and the need for overall plot becomes more and more demanding even in comedies) (R)
(L) Voltron (R)
(L) Sea Prince and the Fire Child (R)
(L) Ulysses 31 (R)

1982 (L-4, G-1, M-0) (7 points)
(G) Super Dimensional Fortress Macross – great space adventure (albeit it looks way too naïve today)
(L) Andromeda Stories (R)
(L) Once Upon a Time Was the Space (R)
(L) Future War 198X-nen (R)

(L) The Mysterious Cities of Gold – Back then this was a major adventure series, combining good action with mystery and likable characters. It probably feels generic now and especially if you have watched lots of Duck Tales or One Piece.

1983 (L-6, G-2, M-0) (12 points)
(G) Armored Trooper Votoms – first Real Robots title (too grim and low on action for most to care but it has its charm)
(G) Barefoot Gen – great anti-war movie (turned obsolete by Grave of the Fireflies) (R)
(L) Plawres Sanshirou (R)
(L) Super Dimension Century Orguss (R)
(L) Genesis Climber Mospeada (R)
(L) Igano Kabamaru (R)
(L) Dallos (R)

(L) Ginga Hyouryuu Vifam (R) – Ok, this is amongst the very few retro anime I still really want to watch and yet can’t find anywhere. It’s either too bad or too forgotten.

1984 (L-6, G-2, M-1) (22 points)
(M) Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind – great angsty movie (still stands strong)
(G) Transformers – first non-piloted Mecha title (Tengen Toppa Guren Lagann has everything this lacks) (R)
(G) Fist of the North Star (Hokuto no Ken) – first Fighting Shounen title (it still looks great and original but does grow tiresome in the second part of the series) (R)
(L) Shounen Keniya (R)
(L) Locke the Superman (R)
(L) Super Dimensional Cavalry Southern Cross (R)
(L) Birth (R)
(L) Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs (R)

(L) Video Senshi Lezarion – Quite interesting back then. Although a typical giant mecha in its core, it had many interesting concepts that made it look a lot more serious than the norm. The villains were in fact exiled humans that wanted to take revenge, the Earth government were assholes, the lead mecha was coming out of a computer, the hero’s family was in constant danger by the battles. I hardly remember the whole deal but it was very good back then. But it probably feels average today, if you have watched many Gundam shows.

1985 (L-0, G-2, M-1) (16 points)
(M) Area 88 – great War Drama title (still stands strong) (R)
(G) Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam – great Mecha title (the sequel to Gundam 0079 but still turned obsolete by Legend of Galactic Heroes)
(G) Touch – great Slice of Life title (turned obsolete by Cross Game)

1986 (L-7, G-2, M-1) (23 points)
(M) Dragon Ball – successful Fighting Shounen title (still stands strong)
(G) Saint Saiya – archetype for all following Fighting Shounen titles (modern Fighting Shounen are far more interesting) (R)
(G) Maison Ikkoku – great Slice of Life title (not bad but looks damn slow and crude by today’s standards)
(L) Once Upon a Time... Life (R)
(L) Windaria (R)
(L) Gall Force: Eternal Story (R)
(L) Nayuta (R)
(L) The Transformers: The Movie (R)
(L) Guyver: Out of Control (R)

(L) They Were Eleven! – This is an early work of space opera / drama and it focuses on character interaction rather than visuals or action. It is considered very good as a retro title but I found it short and dull.

1987 (L-2, G-2, M-0) (8 points)
(G) City Hunter – first Urban/Mystery title (turned obsolete by Cowboy Bebop)
(G) Urotsukidoji – archetype for all following rape hentai (almost nobody likes tentacles anymore, lol)
(L) Bubblegum Crisis (R)

(L) Kimagure Orange Road – Another one of those romantic comedies of the 80’s that made some appeal. Plus, this one had espers in it. It otherwise was following the usual formula of almost zero-progress and frozen development.

1988 (L-2, G-1, M-4) (45 points)
(M) Gunbuster (still stands strong)
(M) Legend of the Galactic Heroes – best Space Opera (still stands strong)
(M) Grave of the Fireflies – great anti-war movie (still stands strong)
(M) Akira – great angsty/action movie (still stands strong, although the manga is far better)
(G) Mobile Police Patlabor – interesting Sci-fi/Comedy (turned obsolete by Ghost in the Shell)
(L) Vampire Princess Miyu (R)
(L) Crying Freeman (R)

1989 (L-5, G-0, M-1) (15 points)
(M) Dragon Ball Z – great Fighting Shounen title (still stands strong) (R)
(L) Adventures of Peter Pan (R)
(L) Alfred J. Quack (R)
(L) Ranma ½ (R)

(L) Kiki's Delivery Service – It’s a Ghibli film and it has a flying witch girl in it. Need I say more? Simple but elegant.

(L) Yawara! – Yet another one of those romantic comedies of the 80’s that made some appeal. It’s about judo and it’s still almost zero-progress and frozen development.

1990 (L-3, G-0, M-1) (13 points)
(M) Record of Lodoss War – best High Fantasy title (still stands strong but it’s corny as hell)
(L) Samurai Pizza Cats (R)
(L) Nadia: Secret of Blue Water (R)
(L) Robin Hood no Daibouken (R)

1990 (L-3, G-0, M-0) (3 points)
(L) 3x3 Eyes (R)
(L) Yokoyama Mitsuteru Sangokushi (R)

(L) Otaku no Video – One of the earliest otaku culture anime. Sort of a documentary on the growing number of otakus, this short series was in order to show how some people really loved anime. It also has a story of sorts but it’s just there for the heck of it.

1992 (L-7, G-0, M-1) (17 points)
(M) Sailor Moon – archetype for all following Mahou Shoujo (still stands strong) (R)
(L) Tekkaman Blade (R)

(L) Shoujo Tsubaki – a horror / erotic film, made by an independed mangaka. Very disturbing imagery for its time.

(L) La Blue Girl – Although Urotsukidoji promoted the raping tentacles fuss, it was still very disgusting for most. Then came La Blue Girl with its comical ninja girls and extreme fetishes and things started to look nice.

(L) Porco Rosso – Another good Miyazaki film. Will be surpassed only when pigs fly. Hey wait …

(L) Bastard!! – A pumped up on action and fantasy short OVA series. The manga is of course better.

(L) Yu Yu Hakusho – Before Bleach, there was Hakusho to show ghosts beating the crap out of each other.

(L) Tenchi Muyo! – The first harem comedy that became a major hit at its prime. I personally found it snoringly average.

1993 (L-5, G-1, M-1) (18 points)
(M) Slam Dunk – great Sports/Comedy title (still stands strong)
(G) Ninja Scroll – great action/gore movie (its gore is no longer that likable plus Sword of the Stranger is far more mature)
(L) Irresponsible Captain Tylor (R)
(L) Dragon Half (R)

(L) JoJo's Bizarre Adventure – A dark fighting shounen that was good back then but feels very simplistic today.

(L) Please Save My Earth – Romance sci-fi around love that transcends time. It is mostly good as a concept, since it covers only a small part of the manga.

(L) Black Jack – Another one of Tezuka’s old hits became an anime and it’s about a grim surgeon.

1994 (L-11, G-0, M-0) (11 points)
(L) Mobile Fighter G Gundam (R)
(L) Red Riding Hood Chacha (R)
(L) Pom Poko (R)
(L) Mahoujin Guru Guru (R)
(L) Magic Knight Rayearth (R)
(L) Key the Metal Idol (R)

(L) Plastic Little – Small silly adventure with lots of erotic innuendoes. Makes a big impression with its fast pace and great animation.

(L) Genocyber – Practically good for the first OVA only, as it has a huge amount of nudity and gore.

(L) Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie – Weak story and characters but it’s a decent take on a game adaptation.

(L) Blue Seed – A rather good action shounen for its time but feels poor by today.

(L) Fencer of Minerva – Softcore hentai with decent story and cast in a fantasy setting.

1995 1994 (L-4, G-2, M-1) (20 points)
(M) Neon Genesis Evangelion – great psychological/Mecha title (still stands strong)
(G) Gundam Wing – nice Mecha title (turned obsolete by Gundam 00)
(G) Slayers – great action/fantasy title (funny but is no longer that appealing because of its episodic nature and weak plot) (R)
(L) Dino Adventure Jurassic Tripper (R)
(L) El Hazard: The Magnificent World (R)

(L) Ping Pong Club – Zany erotic comedy.

(L) Golden Boy – Zany erotic comedy... again.

1996 (L-1, G-0, M-4) (41 points)
(M) Ghost in the Shell – great psychological/Sci-fi movie (still stands strong)
(M) Rurouni Kenshin – great action/adventure title (still stands strong but gets really lame in the second half) (R)
(M) Gundam 08th MS Team – great War Drama/Real Robots title (still stands strong; it even has ties with the original timeline)
(M) Vision of Escaflowne – great fantasy title (still stands strong) (R)
(L) Martian Successor Nadesico (R)

1997 (L-5, G-1, M-4) (48 points)
(M) GaoGaiGar – great Super Robots title (still stands strong although very few still remember it)
(M) Princess Mononoke – great angsty movie (still stands strong)
(M) Berserk – great Dark Fantasy title (still stands strong although the ending is ARGH)
(M) Revolutionary Girl Utena – great psychological/Yuri title (still stands strong)
(G) Pokemon – famous toy promoting/commercial title (still kicks around although very few still watch it, lol)
(L) Haunted Junction (R)
(L) Maze Megaburst Space (R)
(L) Aika (R)

(L) Flame of Recca – Before Naruto, there was Recca. And it is rather simple in story but has many action scenes.

(L) Photon: The Idiot Adventures – Comedy sci-fi at its best.

1998 (L-2, G-3, M-5) (61 points)
(M) Card Captor Sakura – famous Moe/Mahou Shoujo title (still stands strong) (R)
(M) Initial D – famous racing title (still stands strong)
(M) Serial Experiments Lain – great psychological/Sci-fi title (still stands strong, although most just don’t get it)
(M) Cowboy Bebop – good action/adventure title (still stands strong, although I prefer Samurai Champloo to these space cowboys with blues music)
(M) Perfect Blue – great psychological thriller movie (still stands strong)
(G) Trigun – good action/adventure title (turned obsolete by Cowboy Bebop and One Piece)
(G) His and Her Circumstances (Kare Kano) – good Slice of Life/romance/psychological title (not bad but the second half sucks)

(G) Master Keaton – An episodic adventure of an explorer/detective. Many consider it a masterpiece but I just don’t see anything special in it. But I will admit it was very mature for its age.
(L) Blue Submarine No.6 (R)

(L) Outlaw Star – A classic space adventure but doesn’t look like much today.

1999 (L-5, G-2, M-9) (101 points)
(M) Digimon – famous toy promoting/commercial title (still stands strong, although it gets really silly after awhile) (R)
(M) One Piece – great action/adventure title (still stands strong)
(M) Turn A Gundam – good psychological/Mecha title (most don’t like it but it’s a great one) (R)
(M) Betterman – good psychological/Mecha title (most don’t like it but it’s a great one) (R)
(M) Blue Gender – good psychological/Mecha title (most forgot it but it’s good if you can stand the slow plot)
(M) Crest of the Stars (Sekai no Senki) – great Space Opera title (still stands strong but loses objective later on)
(M) Samurai X: Trust & Betrayal – great action/drama movie (still stands strong)
(M) Great Teacher Onizuka – great comedy title (still stands strong)
(M) Excel Saga – great anime parody title (still stands strong)
(G) Hunter X Hunter – good action/adventure title (turned obsolete by One Piece … what is the objective in this series again?) (R)
(G) Di Gi Charat – good Slapstick title (not bad but nothing great either)
(L) Reign: The Conqueror (R)

(L) Black Heaven – A funny comedy / adventure with an ex hard rocker.

(L) Infinite Ryvius – Drama / sci-fi with lost kids in space. Kinda corny and full of forced drama but has its charm.

(L) The Big O – Film noir plus mystery and mecha. Nice atmosphere but too episodic.

(L) Now and Then, Here and There – War drama with kids. Very forced drama but has its charm.

2000 (L-4, G-2, M-8) (90 points)
(M) Love Hina – great Harem title (still stands strong)
(M) Hajime no Ippo – great Boxing title (still stands strong)
(M) InuYasha – good action/adventure title (still stands strong, although it becomes tiresome because of the fillers) (R)
(M) Brigadoon – good psychological/Mecha title (most forgot it but it’s good if you can stand the weird plot) (R)
(M) VanDread – good Ecchi/Mecha title (most forgot it but it’s good if you can stand the bad CGI)
(M) Argento Soma – good psychological/Mecha title (most forgot it but it’s rather good and it’s not a NGE clone as some think) (R)
(G) FLCL – great anime parody title (I prefer Tengen Toppa Guren Lagann or even RE: Cutey Honey to this)
(G) Yu-Gi-Oh! – famous toy promoting/commercial title (still stands strong although it’s completely stupid) (R)

(L) Gate Keepers – Nice shounen adventure which was great back then but feels completely generic today.

(L) Ceres, Celestial Legend – Very corny romance and forced drama but interesting story.

(L) Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade – A grim story about a dystopian fascist society.

(L) Sousei Seiki Devadasy – An attempt to make a more erotic version of Neon Genesis but with bad directing.

Frome here on most titles are famous already and their importance is blurry so I will not bother adding descriptions for newer entries.

2001 (L-9, G-7, M-2) (50 points)
(M) Hikaru no Go – great toy promoting/commercial title
(M) Bible Black – great Hentai title
(G) Rahxephon – good psychological/Mecha title

(G) Digimon Tamers
(G) Soul Taker
(G) Vampire Hunter D – Bloodlust
(G) R.O.D - Read or Die
(G) Spirited Away
(G) Millennium Actress
(L) Arjuna
(L) Hare+Guu
(L) Noir
(L) Figure 17
(L) s-CRY-ed
(L) Shaman King
(L) Fruits Basket
(L) X (2001)
(L) The Prince of Tennis

2002 (L-0, G-11, M-5) (88 points)
(M) Full Moon – great Slice of Life/Mahou Shoujo title
(M) Princess Tutu – great Mahou Shoujo title
(M) The Twelve Kingdoms – great Fantasy/adventure title
(M) Chobits – good psychological/Ecchi title
(M) Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(G).hack//SIGN – good psychological/Sci-fi title
(G) Azumanga Daioh – great Slapstick title
(G) Naruto – famous Fighting Shounen title
(G) Saikano – good angsty title
(G) Gundam SEED – famous Mecha title

(G) Abenobashi
(G) Yukikaze
(G) Haibane-Renmei
(G) Macross Zero
(G) RahXephon
(G) Voices of a Distant Star

2003 (L-1, G-11, M-2) (54 points)
(M) Kaleido Star – good Coming of Age title
(M) Planetes – good Slice of Life/Sci-fi title
(G) Texhnolyze – good psychological/Sci-fi title
(G) Wolf's Rain – good psychological/adventure title
(G) Gungrave – good psychological/adventure title
(G) The Animatrix – good psychological/Sci-fi title

(G) Last Exile
(G) Scrapped Princess
(G) Tokyo Godfathers
(G) Gunslinger Girl
(G) Boboboubo Boubobo
(G) Chrono Crusade
(G) Paranoia Agent
(L) Narutaru

2004 (L-1, G-10, M-6) (91 points)
(M) Genshiken – great Slice of Life/Otaku Culture title
(M) Monster – great psychological/mystery title
(M) Gankutsuou The Count of Monte Cristo – good fantasy/action title
(M) Mind Game – great psychological movie
(M) Samurai Champloo – great action/adventure title
(M) Gunbuster 2
(G) Beck – good Slice of Life/music title
(G) Elfen Lied – famous psychological/gore title

(G) The Melody of Oblivion
(G) Le Portrait de Petite Cossette
(G) Re:Cutie Honey
(G) Gantz
(G) Fantastic Children
(G) Rozen Maiden
(G) Howl's Moving Castle
(G) Samurai 7
(L) Bleach – famous Fighting Shounen title

2005 (L-5, G-5, M-5) (91 points)
(M) Akagi – good gamble title (M) Paradise Kiss – good mature romance title
(M) Speed Grapher – great psychological/action title
(M) Mushi-Shi – great psychological/mystery title
(M) Aria – great fantasy/Slice of Life title
(M) Pale Cocoon
(G) Eureka Seven – good adventure/Mecha title
(G) Ah! My Goddess – great fantasy/comedy/Ecchi title

(G) Starship Operators
(G) Honey and Clover
(G) Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children
(L) Shakugan no Shana – good fantasy/romance/action title
(L) Fate/stay night – good fantasy/romance/action title
(L) Air
(L) Basilisk
(L) The Law of Ueki
(L) Usavich
(L) Ayakashi - Samurai Horror Tales

2006 (L-20, G-7, M-9) (131 points)
(M) Zegapain – great psychological/Mecha title
(M) Welcome to the N.H.K – great Slice of Life/Otaku Culture title
(M) The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya – good Slice of Life/Sci-fi/comedy title
(M) Higurashi – good psychological thriller title
(M) Nana – good mature romance title
(M) Honey & Clover – good Slice of Life title
(M) The Girl Who Leapt Through Time – great Fantasy movie
(M) Death Note – great Thriller/Mystery title
(M) Ergo Proxy – great psychological/adventure/sci-fi title
(G) Hellsing – great action/gore title
(G) Code Geass – famous multi-genre title
(G) Black Lagoon – good Chicks with Guns title
(G) Kanon – good romance title
(G) Ouran High School Host Club – good Reverse Haremtitle

(G) Paprika
(G) The Story of Saiunkoku
(G) Flag
(L) Gintama – famous anime parody
(L) xxxHOLiC – famous fanstasy/mystery title
(L) Utawarerumono
(L) Air Gear
(L) Magical Pokaan
(L) Oban Star-Racers
(L) Planet of the Beast King
(L) Aachi wa Ssipak
(L) Le Chevalier D'Eon
(L) Kemonozume
(L) D.Gray-Man
(L) Pumpkin Scissors
(L) Ghost Hunt
(L) Shonen Onmyouji
(L) Buso Renkin
(L) 009-1
(L) Katekyo Hitman Reborn!
(L) KenIchi: The Mightiest Disciple
(L) Bartender
(L) Strain: Strategic Armored Infantry

2007 (L-8, G-4, M-14) (160 points)
(M) Nodame Cantabile – good Slice of Life title
(M) Gyakkyou Burai Kaiji
(M) Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
(M) Clannad
(M) 5cm Per Second
(M) Ef - a Tale of Memories
(M) Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei
(M) Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit
(M) Terra e...
(M) Dennou Coil
(M) Mononoke
(M) Baccano!
(M) Kara no Kyoukai: The Garden of Sinners
(M) Rebuild of Evangelion
(G) Claymore
(G) Sword of the Stranger
(G) Gundam 00
(G) Lucky Star

(L) Romeo x Juliet
(L) Darker than Black
(L) Bokura no
(L) School Days
(L) Potemayo
(L) Shigurui
(L) Minami-ke
(L) Macross F

2008 (L-7, G-7, M-4) (68 points)
(M) Detroit Metal City
(M) Kaiba
(M) Time of Eve
(M) La Maison en Petits Cubes
(G) One Outs
(G) Xam'd: Lost Memories
(G) Michiko to Hatchin
(G) True Tears
(G) Casshern Sins
(G) Chi's Sweet Home
(G) Soul Eater
(L) The Tower of Druaga

(L) Toradora!
(L) Spice and Wolf
(L) Allison to Lillia
(L) The Sky Crawlers
(L) Tentai Senshi Sunred
(L) Toaru Majutsu no Index

2009 (L-5, G-3, M-3) (44 points)
(M) K-On!
(M) Bakemonogatari
(M) Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
(G) Kuuchuu Buranko
(G) Cross Game

(G) Kimi ni Todoke
(L) Guin Saga
(L) Kemono no Souja Erin
(L) Sengoku Basara
(L) Eden of the East
(L) Fairy Tail

2010
Yojouhan Shinwa Taikei (Tatami Galaxy)
Gundam Unicorn
Break Blade
Durarara!!
Katanagatari
Angel Beats!
Heroman
Arakawa Under the Bridge
Sarai-ya Goyou
Densetsu no Yuusha no Densetsu
High School of the Dead
Star Driver Kagayaki no Takuto

But revolutionary this year? I only consider Katanagatari to be a very good way of entertaining us with trolling and Tatami Galaxy is great as a romantic comedy with sci-fi and psychology that brings everything together in the end. But many would say Katanagatari is like Bakemonogatari in terms of heavy dialogue and Tatami Galaxy is taking ideas from Endless Eight or Groundhog Day.

[mechdra]

Seems like there are a number of interesting anime out thre that change the anime industry.

For Aki Sora, I agree it is a good anime but it is a hentai by itself where it could not be aired like Yosuga no Sora.

One thing I need to be clear, a good anime does not nessasry change the anime industry. Clannad is a good anime but I personally could not see how it affect the anime industry. For example some anime directed by Tomino define what is a bad endto the extend he wonder why he made such anime. Sailormoon may not be the first magical girl anime but it did bring magical girl anime to the international level. Doraemon entertain kids for many generation and become the benchmark for kids anime. Dragonball define what I call human battlecruiser. Ruroni Kenshin bring samarai anime to a new level.

[roriconfan]

Originally Posted by mechdra

For Aki Sora, I agree it is a good anime but it is a hentai by itself where it could not be aired like Yosuga no Sora.

Hard to say. Some sites designate it as seinen ova with sex and not hentai.

Originally Posted by mechdra

One thing I need to be clear, a good anime does not nessasry change the anime industry. Clannad is a good anime but I personally could not see how it affect the anime industry. For example some anime directed by Tomino define what is a bad endto the extend he wonder why he made such anime. Sailormoon may not be the first magical girl anime but it did bring magical girl anime to the international level. Doraemon entertain kids for many generation and become the benchmark for kids anime. Dragonball define what I call human battlecruiser. Ruroni Kenshin bring samarai anime to a new level.

If you are reffering to publicity, then the quality or innovation of an anime play a secodary purpose. Being famous and being a good watch are not going together. For example, far less people know of Yuyu Hakusho than Bleach despite being equally good fighting shonen. And Code Geass is far-far more popular than Galactic Heroes despite the first being a retelling of previous works and the later being a more serious and quality anime that revolutionized Space Operas in all media.

[RRW]

this could be nice guide to see what anime is influential

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...EssentialAnime

[FlavorOfLife]

Many anime were never translated in western languages (eg "Dougram") or old and rarely seen (eg award winner "Crusher Joe") so i would wary of people who say they can give a definitive word on what is revolutionary

[Kusa-San]

Originally Posted by Sheba

I don't even think that Amagami should be qualified as revolutionary. The omnibus format seems to have been chosen so the director don't upset otakus because their "waifu" route and ending have not been animated.

Uh ? I'm sorry but it doesn't change teh fact that the omnibus format is a new format and so is revolutionary. There are good thing from this format !

Originally Posted by roriconfan

Amagami is already considered to be subpar for having bad transition from one arc to another. No, Clannad still is the queen of date sims.

Bad transition from one arc to another ? What do you mean by that ? How can you have bad transition from different arcs when you have a reset each time ?

And why are you talking about Clannad here ? We're talking about revolutionnary anime not about being the queen of date sims .

[Vexx]

One could spend all day arguing whether a "new thing" was revolutionary or evolutionary. The omnibus format, for example, pretty new for the 'choose the girl' genre in anime but whether it is just an evolutionary step from the 'serial romance' or revolutionary... well it'll depend on whether it becomes the normal format for that genre or not.

And yet again, we have certain posters making sweeping assertions as if their personal opinion was 'fact'

I'd restrict "revolutionary" to items that actually change the standard format or minimum expectations... having trouble coming up with any that do that. Now if you want to discuss which series in various genre are ICONIC for that genre....

[Kusa-San]

Originally Posted by Vexx

One could spend all day arguing whether a "new thing" was revolutionary or evolutionary. The omnibus format, for example, pretty new for the 'choose the girl' genre in anime but whether it is just an evolutionary step from the 'serial romance' or revolutionary... well it'll depend on whether it becomes the normal format for that genre or not.

And yet again, we have certain posters making sweeping assertions as if their personal opinion was 'fact'

I'd restrict "revolutionary" to items that actually change the standard format or minimum expectations... having trouble coming up with any that do that. Now if you want to discuss which series in various genre are ICONIC for that genre....

I don't see why it can't be evolutionary and revolutionary at the same time

[0utf0xZer0]

Originally Posted by roriconfan

Amagami is already considered to be subpar for having bad transition from one arc to another. No, Clannad still is the queen of date sims.

Yosuga no Sora has negative hype all over the place. And it is not even revolutionary. Aki Sora is. The anime version is equally negative but the manga version is great.

The difference is that YnS is a TV series and Aki Sora is an OVA.

Second, I wouldn't use English language fan reaction as an indicator of whether or not series like those two are revolutionary, since that's not the target market. What other companies are going to pay attention to is how well the shows sell to the Japanese market relative to dating sim adaptations of a similar profile.

Right now, Amagami SS is averaging 5.5K per volume, which is pretty high for a non-Key, non-Type Moon game adaptation. That being said, Amagami was a pretty high profile titles so it's tricky for me to tell if that means anything right now. We haven't seen real sales numbers for Yosuga no Sora yet, but most indicators suggest they're pretty high.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Kusa-San

Uh ? I'm sorry but it doesn't change teh fact that the omnibus format is a new format and so is revolutionary. There are good thing from this format !

Which is why I said "Think" and "Seems", the format have yet to convince me for reasons that are widely discussed in other forums and that resonated with mine. For now, it is wait and see as far as I am concerned.

[Kusa-San]

Originally Posted by Sheba

Which is why I said "Think" and "Seems", the format have yet to convince me for reasons that are widely discussed in other forums and that resonated with mine. For now, it is wait and see as far as I am concerned.

Ok sorry. It's true that I overreacted

[Akito Kinomoto]

Well then, I'm not sure if this is iconic or revolutionary, but what about Dragon Ball Z? It initiated a lot of the more casual fans [in the United States] to anime who otherwise didn't know what Cowboy Bebop was, and there's hardly a fan [of anime] who hasn't at least heard of it, at least as far as our American audiences go. And if profit = popularity, how much %-wise does the Dragon Ball franchise in general make for FUNimation?

And then we have The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, the show where an innocent statement was made about how essential moe' is to anime that buying fans took a little too far (but worry not, I say that in jest. One look at most of the anime I've watched would definitely convince you of that). And of course, we can't forget Revolutionary Girl Utena.

[roriconfan]

And if Galactic Heroes had ever aired on tv, most later anime would fall into oblivion a few months after finished airing.

Yes, that is one big if.

Revolutuionary means being the first to begin a trend, right? Ok, Astro Boy is revolutuionary as its style was benchmark for how anime look today. Yet even that had its roots in Walt Disney drawing style, so it is revolutionary in Japanese animation thereafter ONLY. Then we have Mahou Tsukai Sally, which is the very first mahou shoujo ever made and the show all others copied later. Yet even that was based on the american show Bewitched so it is again revolutionary in Japan ONLY. And so on, and so on.

[fukarming]

A good anime doesn't mean it is revolutionary. A revolutionary anime needs to change how future anime is made. To achieve that you either need massive popularity, or at least a loyal cult following. It is too early to tell, but I doubt Amagami SS and Yosuga no Sora are iconic enough to be a revolutionary anime - unless your definition of revolutionary anime is different from mine - My definition of revolutionary anime is that it only happen once every couple years.

I don't think Legend of Galactic Heroes is revolutionary even it is a good show. We don't see a huge influx of fictional historical space drama in the 90s. We don't see a lot of Reinhard or Yang Wenli clone around as well.

Gundam 0079 is revolutionary, as it introduce the "real and war" aspect into the anime scene. Before gundam 0079 mecha are known to be about friendship and hotblood (Getter and Mazinger, among many others)

NGE is revolutionary, as before NGE mecha is made of steel and mechanic. After EVA we have a huge influx of bio-robot. Also NGE introduce whiny main pilots, silent girl archtype. It also focus on the inner emotional struggle of the pilots, rather than focusing on struggle from the outside (like war and death)

Tenchi Muyo is revolutionary for the harem anime genre. Before Tenchi Muyo, romantic comedy are mostly portrayed in a love polygon (A and B love C, but C loves D, and D is chased by E and F, yet E forms a bond with A - think Ranma). Tenchi Muyo starts the focus on one male loves by every female in the show. It is perfected in Love Hina, and since then we have a harem anime almost every season.

Azumanga Daioh is revolutionary for the 4-koma genre. I cannot recall a single 4-koma manga turned into an anime before Azumanga Daioh. After its success, we are seeing a 4-koma based anime every year - K-on, Lucky star, Doki Doki School Hours, Hidamari Sketch etc.

Argubly, Card Captor Sakura is also revolutionary. Before CCS, no one watch magical girl for its action (think sailor moon - they are using the exact sequence every episode, the action is boring as hell). CCS introduce the concept that magical fighting can be fun too. It is of course perfected in Nanoha series, which the main focus is about Nanoha and friends fighting awesome battles blasting people and stuff around.

[roriconfan]

Originally Posted by fukarming

I don't think Legend of Galactic Heroes is revolutionary even it is a good show. We don't see a huge influx of fictional historical space drama in the 90s. We don't see a lot of Reinhard or Yang Wenli clone around as well.

I never understood why space operas are so overlooked. Maybe the main audience likes Earth bound stories. But not many clones? Come on, Reinhart and Lelouch, Wenli and L? The similarities are more than a few. It just took a lot of years for these types to appear. Which is again sad.

Originally Posted by fukarming

Gundam 0079 is revolutionary, as it introduce the "real and war" aspect into the anime scene. Before gundam 0079 mecha are known to be about friendship and hotblood (Getter and Mazinger, among many others)

NGE is revolutionary, as before NGE mecha is made of steel and mechanic. After EVA we have a huge influx of bio-robot. Also NGE introduce whiny main pilots, silent girl archtype. It also focus on the inner emotional struggle of the pilots, rather than focusing on struggle from the outside (like war and death)

Tenchi Muyo is revolutionary for the harem anime genre. Before Tenchi Muyo, romantic comedy are mostly portrayed in a love polygon (A and B love C, but C loves D, and D is chased by E and F, yet E forms a bond with A - think Ranma). Tenchi Muyo starts the focus on one male loves by every female in the show. It is perfected in Love Hina, and since then we have a harem anime almost every season.

True to all that.

Originally Posted by fukarming

Azumanga Daioh is revolutionary for the 4-koma genre. I cannot recall a single 4-koma manga turned into an anime before Azumanga Daioh. After its success, we are seeing a 4-koma based anime every year - K-on, Lucky star, Doki Doki School Hours, Hidamari Sketch etc.

There was Di Gi Charat in 1999 that had success amongst the NEETs of that time.

Originally Posted by fukarming

Argubly, Card Captor Sakura is also revolutionary. Before CCS, no one watch magical girl for its action (think sailor moon - they are using the exact sequence every episode, the action is boring as hell). CCS introduce the concept that magical fighting can be fun too. It is of course perfected in Nanoha series, which the main focus is about Nanoha and friends fighting awesome battles blasting people and stuff around.

Nope, almost no mahou shoujo after Sakura dropped the repeating sequences or the formulaic fighting.

[Blaat]

Can Anigami SS truly be considered revolutionary? It's not the first anime to use the omnibus format (Diamond Dust Drops predates it for example)

Originally Posted by roriconfan

There was Di Gi Charat in 1999 that had success amongst the NEETs of that time.

Sazae-san, the longest runing anime, is also based on a 4-koma.

[totoum]

Originally Posted by roriconfan

There was Di Gi Charat in 1999 that had success amongst the NEETs of that time.

Then how about Azumanga Daioh setting the table for high school 4 komas based shows like "K-on, Lucky star, Doki Doki School Hours, Hidamari Sketch etc."?

I would have considered Anigami SS "revolutionary" if it came out,had great success and a couple seasons later a bunch of omnibus format shows after seeing the success Anigami SS had.
But that's not really the case,it just so happens a few shows are using the omnibus format this year but they're all coming out at roughly the same time,it's like a bunch of people started thinking "hey,lets use the omnibus format" at the same time.