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Guernsey · 2012-05-07, 03:10

Do you ever find yourself rooting for the antagonists of any story? Granted, there are some morally reprehesnsible villains who caused massive amounts of destruction with no remorse whatsoever but there are also antagonists that you can sympathize with even if you do not agree with their motives. I heard that UC Gundam fans sympathize a lot with Zeon in spite of the fact that there were directly responsible for the destruction of Sydney, Australia in the series. While nnot all of them all complete monsters, what they had in common with the Federation is that they were just soldiers defending their country. Although Gundam may not be the best example of this as the later UC and even AU Gundam had quite a few complete monster villains, do you find yourself rooting for the villains or the antagonists in the anime you watch?

MisaoFan · 2012-05-07, 03:22

I don't like rooting for the villains (cause I'm a pacifist individual) but the only villain I can sympathize with is Broly from Dragon Ball Z since he's also my favorite character.

Tiresias · 2012-05-07, 05:50

The early parts of Gundam 00, where I find those the Celestial Being fought to be more interesting than our supposed-to-be protagonists. When Sergei died (Rest in Peace, comrade) I lost interest in the story.

Lenaisian · 2012-05-07, 05:52

@ ^

I don't think Kyubey (known as an Incubator) from Madoka Magica is villainous enough... and it only tells those involved the truth about human moralities (well, that's my opinion about it, no offense).

Farplaner · 2012-05-07, 07:53

I guess technically, "L" is the villian in Death Note, so I rooted for him.

Paranoid Android · 2012-05-07, 09:52

Yagami is the villain, L is the antagonist, I believe?
Death note is when villian is the protagonist. And in those animes, I usually like both the villain and the opposition.

I like to root for random bad ass mercenaries hired by the main antagonist. They usually don't have the morals/motives of the true main antagonist/villian but simply follow their loyalty/code, and because of their secondary character role, they don't have a major character development and show only bad-assery from beginning to end. It's kind of like a steamroller falling from the sky and making a mess of everything.

- Sara from Samurai Shamploo (crazy-ass blind girl with the bardiche)
- Mifune from Soul Eater
- Alexander Anderson from Hellsing
- Kyuzo from Samurai 7

I'm not so much the sympathetic type, most villians' reasoning are hardly logical or just extremely cliche. So I don't particular root for anyone because they have some sob story to share.

I also root for antagonist if the main character is a 1-dimensional un-progressive useless whiny little

Sheba · 2012-05-07, 09:58

I will only root for the villain if the protagonists are so unintinteresting that I want them to fail.

MUAHAHAHAHAHA · 2012-05-07, 10:00

It depends.For me, I will start rooting for the villain if I don't have a good impression of the MC. I don't root for villains based on their morality, and the same goes for MCs in any animes. Morality is extremely subjective, so I won't bother trying to crack my brain deciding whose ideology(MC and villain) is better. I go for characters who have a lasting impression.

Sometimes, I root for villains based on their appearance. For instance, Shishio from Makoto. The first time I watched him on tele, I was pretty awed by his appearance. You don't always get to watch evil badass guy wrapped in bandages from top to bottom who also happens to be a master swordsman.

Paranoid Android · 2012-05-07, 10:12

Also if the antagonist is comic relief. Like a lotta people from Gintama XD I root for them knowing they'll fail on epic proportions.

mystogan · 2012-05-07, 10:15

i'll root for Itachi from Naruto ,all though he was villan till the truth was out, later he became a hero.
then Ulquiorra from Bleach, he was way too awsome
that's it for now, can't think of anyone else

MUAHAHAHAHAHA · 2012-05-07, 10:15

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Android

Also if the antagonist is comic relief. Like a lotta people from Gintama XD I root for them knowing they'll fail on epic proportions.

I root for ALL antagonists in Gintama. My favourite Gintama antagonist is Jiraia. Awesome character he is.

Paranoid Android · 2012-05-07, 10:21

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i'll root for Itachi from Naruto ,all though he was villan till the truth was out, later he became a hero.

Yeah those types -sometimes- really get me to root for them. Gin Ichimaru R.I.P.

It just occurred to me he's the only protagonist that dies in the anime. Everyone else is an antagonist.

MisaoFan · 2012-05-07, 10:25

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Originally Posted by Sheba

I will only root for the villain if the protagonists are so unintinteresting that I want them to fail.

That wasn't the case for me, I don't root for antagonists (I don't like rooting for them except Broly and Tayuya) even when the protagonists are little whiny brats.

sa547 · 2012-05-07, 10:29

Some of the most interesting antagonists that left quite an impression:

* Lord Jeremiah, or Orange-kun
* Shishio
* Britai Kridanik

Tiresias · 2012-05-07, 10:30

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Originally Posted by Sheba

I will only root for the villain if the protagonists are so uninteresting that I want them to fail.

That happens more time than I can remember (f**king emo's and ordinary boys turned heroes). OTOH sometimes both sides *cough* Guilty Crown *cough* are so annoying I hoped for a meteor to fall down and kill everyone.

MUAHAHAHAHAHA · 2012-05-07, 10:32

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Originally Posted by sa547

Some of the most interesting antagonists that left quite an impression:

* Lord Jeremiah, or Orange-kun
* Shishio
* Britai Kridanik

Can one really consider Orange-kun as an antagonist?

Ithekro · 2012-05-07, 10:56

I know people that do that.

The kind that would back the Galactic Empire in Star Wars because to them the Empire is a government of law and order while the Rebel Alliance is at its core, terrorists and pirates (from a certain point of view).

Same group supports the orcs and Sauron in Lord of the Rings. Might and Order over the broken, divided, and I suppose they called them "foolishly idealistic" men of the west, elves, hobbits, and dwarves. In gaming groups they refer to the orcs as the good guys.

Chiibi · 2012-05-07, 11:05

Pretty much never....unless Lucy from Elfen Lied counts.

Sheba · 2012-05-07, 11:34

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

I know people that do that.

The kind that would back the Galactic Empire in Star Wars because to them the Empire is a government of law and order while the Rebel Alliance is at its core, terrorists and pirates (from a certain point of view).

You are forgetting the more shallow portion of the fans rooting for the Galactic Empire, the Axis and other empires only because "they have the prettier clothes."

Tiresias · 2012-05-07, 11:42

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Originally Posted by Sheba

You are forgetting the more shallow portion of the fans rooting for the Galactic Empire, the Axis and other empires only because "they have the prettier clothes."

Or cooler-looking war machines (compare Star Destroyer to Mon Calamari Cruiser)

2012-05-07, 03:10	Link #1
Guernsey The GAP Man Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Rooting for the villains? Do you ever find yourself rooting for the antagonists of any story? Granted, there are some morally reprehesnsible villains who caused massive amounts of destruction with no remorse whatsoever but there are also antagonists that you can sympathize with even if you do not agree with their motives. I heard that UC Gundam fans sympathize a lot with Zeon in spite of the fact that there were directly responsible for the destruction of Sydney, Australia in the series. While nnot all of them all complete monsters, what they had in common with the Federation is that they were just soldiers defending their country. Although Gundam may not be the best example of this as the later UC and even AU Gundam had quite a few complete monster villains, do you find yourself rooting for the villains or the antagonists in the anime you watch? __________________

2012-05-07, 05:50	Link #3
Tiresias Labda Prakarsa Nirwikara Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pekanbaru (UTC+07:00) Age: 37	The early parts of Gundam 00, where I find those the Celestial Being fought to be more interesting than our supposed-to-be protagonists. When Sergei died (Rest in Peace, comrade) I lost interest in the story. __________________

2012-05-07, 05:52	Link #4
Lenaisian The Undead Summoner Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: The Philippine Islands	@ ^ I don't think Kyubey (known as an Incubator) from Madoka Magica is villainous enough... and it only tells those involved the truth about human moralities (well, that's my opinion about it, no offense). __________________

2012-05-07, 10:00	Link #8
MUAHAHAHAHAHA Hail the power of Fujoshi Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: hahahahahahahahaha Age: 35	It depends.For me, I will start rooting for the villain if I don't have a good impression of the MC. I don't root for villains based on their morality, and the same goes for MCs in any animes. Morality is extremely subjective, so I won't bother trying to crack my brain deciding whose ideology(MC and villain) is better. I go for characters who have a lasting impression. Sometimes, I root for villains based on their appearance. For instance, Shishio from Makoto. The first time I watched him on tele, I was pretty awed by his appearance. You don't always get to watch evil badass guy wrapped in bandages from top to bottom who also happens to be a master swordsman. __________________ A politically ignorant person who embraces only hedonism as the main philosophical doctrine. Old stuff but just a reminder that butthurt report form is here to help

2012-05-07, 10:15	Link #10
mystogan The Lost Lamb Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: in Darkness	i'll root for Itachi from Naruto ,all though he was villan till the truth was out, later he became a hero. then Ulquiorra from Bleach, he was way too awsome that's it for now, can't think of anyone else __________________

2012-05-07, 07:53	Link #5
Farplaner Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	I guess technically, "L" is the villian in Death Note, so I rooted for him.

2012-05-07, 09:52	Link #6
Paranoid Android Underweight Food Hoarder Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Kitch-Water and T.O., Canada Age: 33	Yagami is the villain, L is the antagonist, I believe? Death note is when villian is the protagonist. And in those animes, I usually like both the villain and the opposition. I like to root for random bad ass mercenaries hired by the main antagonist. They usually don't have the morals/motives of the true main antagonist/villian but simply follow their loyalty/code, and because of their secondary character role, they don't have a major character development and show only bad-assery from beginning to end. It's kind of like a steamroller falling from the sky and making a mess of everything. - Sara from Samurai Shamploo (crazy-ass blind girl with the bardiche) - Mifune from Soul Eater - Alexander Anderson from Hellsing - Kyuzo from Samurai 7 I'm not so much the sympathetic type, most villians' reasoning are hardly logical or just extremely cliche. So I don't particular root for anyone because they have some sob story to share. I also root for antagonist if the main character is a 1-dimensional un-progressive useless whiny little

2012-05-07, 09:58	Link #7
Sheba RUN, YOU FOOLS! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Formerly Iwakawa base and Chaldea. Now Teyvat, the Astral Express & the Outpost Age: 44	I will only root for the villain if the protagonists are so unintinteresting that I want them to fail.

2012-05-07, 10:12	Link #9
Paranoid Android Underweight Food Hoarder Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Kitch-Water and T.O., Canada Age: 33	Also if the antagonist is comic relief. Like a lotta people from Gintama XD I root for them knowing they'll fail on epic proportions.

2012-05-07, 10:29	Link #14
sa547 Senior Member Author Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Philippines Age: 47	Some of the most interesting antagonists that left quite an impression: * Lord Jeremiah, or Orange-kun * Shishio * Britai Kridanik __________________

2012-05-07, 10:56	Link #17
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	I know people that do that. The kind that would back the Galactic Empire in Star Wars because to them the Empire is a government of law and order while the Rebel Alliance is at its core, terrorists and pirates (from a certain point of view). Same group supports the orcs and Sauron in Lord of the Rings. Might and Order over the broken, divided, and I suppose they called them "foolishly idealistic" men of the west, elves, hobbits, and dwarves. In gaming groups they refer to the orcs as the good guys. __________________

2012-05-07, 11:05	Link #18
Chiibi Vanitas owns you >:3 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: in a boring place you will not want to go to	Pretty much never....unless Lucy from Elfen Lied counts. __________________