[Manga] Chapter 385 Discussion

[Hunter]

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Posted by Himajin:

[Pentium]

Yay first post! Hope some god spoilers turn up

[The Chaos]

I Hope This Chapter About Itachi....I Don't Want To see Tobi Yet..^^

[King Lycan]

i hope Sasuke gets his A** handed to him

[Bajan]

Originally Posted by King of Lycans

i hope Sasuke gets his A** handed to him

Here! Here!

[The Chaos]

So Every one Hate Sasuke..^^
I'm Glad To hear That..

[Medalist]

Originally Posted by The Chaos

So Every one Hate Sasuke..^^
I'm Glad To hear That..

Spoilers point torwards it all being Genjutsu and then more talking

DOWN WITH SASUKE

[Super_Gilby]

Sasuke will out live you all down with naruto that #1 failure of a ninja ; D oh and down with kakashi that loser it would be ideal if itachi and sasuke teamed up to destroy konoha and then the world yay go sasuke

[BlackShinobi07]

Hey, hey. Whats with all the Sasuke hate. Not that I'm excited about his fight, but we haven't seen the full extent of his abilities just yet. I really want to see team Konoha vs Tobi.

[Irkalla]

I also read in some spoiler that after Kakashi saw Obito he went like: You are...obviously hinting him to be Obi. Fake imho.

[siya]

Originally Posted by BlackShinobi07

Hey, hey. Whats with all the Sasuke hate. Not that I'm excited about his fight, but we haven't seen the full extent of his abilities just yet. I really want to see team Konoha vs Tobi.

Well, I really would rather not see a fight..I mean, the last chapter dissapointed me, I mean, all the did was stare at eachother, did a flip or two, and then Sasuke stabed Itachi twice and was like "I SAID THIS IS THE END YOU MURDEROUS TRADORIS FUCK!"....Then was like TO BE CONTINUED!....What I'm more interested in is that question

[Irkalla]

Originally Posted by siya

Well, I really would rather not see a fight..I mean, the last chapter dissapointed me, I mean, all the did was stare at eachother, did a flip or two, and then Sasuke stabed Itachi twice and was like "I SAID THIS IS THE END YOU MURDEROUS TRADORIS FUCK!"....Then was like TO BE CONTINUED!....What I'm more interested in is that question

I though that was quite right. I mean like Sasuke all convinced he won even saying something like that...It's quite obvious that he is going to lose at this point.

[Medalist]

Originally Posted by Zaseka

I though that was quite right. I mean like Sasuke all convinced he won even saying something like that...It's quite obvious that he is going to lose at this point.

Or atleast Itachi won't let him win. (If you know what I mean)

Itachi is dire to the plot apparently, they'll keep him around so long as Tobi is around.

[vision55]

If itachi loses that quickly, Kishimoto has to be the laziest writer EVER! or has nothing left in his imaginary tank.

[itachi29al]

Spoiler for spoiler 1:

Source: NF
Credits: Crepas

in the previous chapter we saw Sasuke stab Itachi
obviously it was a Genjutsu!
then Itachi starts his regular Tsukiyomi
Scene changes, Tobi arguing
Kakashi , Tobi and Kakashi talk.
in that moment, kakashi says a single word (or "stops talking")
gives the feeling of "it can't be.....your are...!!

Spoiler for spoilers 2:

Source: NF
Credits: Kumanri

Spoiler:

No.385 - Elder Brother

Sasuke: ....
Itachi: Guu...
As blood flowed out from his mouth, Itachi fell onto the floor. As he fell, his whole body started melting and turn liquid, and a tomoe sign was formed on the floor.
Sasuke: ?!
The dimension collapsed, trapping Sasuke within...just as if Sasuke was swallowed, the scene changes to the battle between Suigetsu and Kisame...
Water was splashed and scattered around. Suigetsu's body was pierced by Samehada and stuck onto the lamppost.
Kisame: Well well, I thought you're pretty strong...a tearful face, that's it? That's such a kill-joy...
Suigetsu: It's so nostalgic...
A grinning Suigetsu.
Kisame: ?? ....are you laughing at your own pathetic state...it's painful to realise the truth isn't it?
Suigetsu: I got that from elder brother many times before, the feel of this blade...
Kisame: !! Come to think of it, you're right. Your elder brother was called Houzuki Mangetsu, right, Suigetsu?
(The former owner of Samehada...)
Suigetsu: alright...it's time
In a flash, Suigetsu pulled out Samehada, turned to the slime form and landed on the ground.
In his right hand, he held the cleaver (Zabuza's weapon), in his left hand was Samehada. Suigetsu went into a double sword stance (nitouryuu).
Kisame: Oh...My Samehada that rejects getting handled by anyone besides me is not resisting?
Suigetsu: I'm taking this sword, Kisame sempai
Kisame: If you can do it, that is...
Suigetsu: It's neither to attack my brother's enemy, nor about thinking of what I want to do to a missing-nin like you. This time, it's purely for entertainment (that we fight), that's all.
As soon as he had spoken, Suigetsu's body started to swell and blister.
The water took on a muscular form and flowed towards the two swords...
Kisame: snake...!?
Suigetsu: Suiton rehha - hebi guchi! (Suiton multiple waves technique - snake's mouth) Here I come...Kisame sempai!!

Kisame: Fufufu. That's going to be entertaining for me.
Kisame formed handseals.
A huge quantity of water came crashing out from nowhere...
Both were surrounded by sheets of water...
The appearance of Houzuki Mangetsu was reflected in Kisame's eyes...
The scene changes abruptly to the Itachi vs Sasuke combat, Itachi was sitting leisurely on the chair...
Sasuke's breathe rose, he suddenly stood in front of Itachi's eyes.
Itachi: Is this how I look in my death? Sasuke...
Sasuke: ...what the...?!
Itachi: I ask once more..."what can you see before your very eyes?"

End.

Spoiler for spoiler 3:

Source: NF
Credits: Kumanri

No cover page

Sasuke: Hmph, not good enough.
Picture shows Itachi's blood dripping from Sasuke's sword.
Itachi: I recognize your growth. However...you have placed too much faith in your improvement...
The entire room started to change in appearance.

Stirring up - To go beyond Itachi's level...!

Sasuke's thoughts: Genjutsu...?! No, I didn't meet his eyes...
The throne and Itachi who was seated there, along with Sasuke's sword were swallowed by the floor.
Sasuke's thoughts: It's genjutsu from the very beginning...?!
The crows gathered to form Itachi.
This Itachi has been stabbed in the chest and blood is dripping from the wound.
Then, the wound closes.
Sasuke: ?!
Itachi: Did you think... it will be okay as long as you don't see with your eyes...?
Sasuke: This is just like...
Sasuke looks at his surroundings and recalls the time he was caught in Tsukuyomi.
Itachi: The entire hideout is binded in a a genjutsu dimension. Try getting out of here...Sasuke
Sasuke: Fine... (Sasuke reopens his eyes with Sharingan activated.)
Sasuke's thoughts: It's not working. It's a very strong genjutsu....but....
The walls and ceiling spiral around the what remains of Itachi's image.
Sasuke's thoughts: I'm not going to be engulfed in this!

Spoiler for pic:

[Medalist]

Originally Posted by itachi29al

Spoiler for spoiler 1:

Source: NF
Credits: Crepas

in the previous chapter we saw Sasuke stab Itachi
obviously it was a Genjutsu!
then Itachi starts his regular Tsukiyomi
Scene changes, Tobi arguing
Kakashi , Tobi and Kakashi talk.
in that moment, kakashi says a single word (or "stops talking")
gives the feeling of "it can't be.....your are...!!

Spoiler for spoilers 2:

Source: NF
Credits: Kumanri

Spoiler:

No.385 - Elder Brother

Sasuke: ....
Itachi: Guu...
As blood flowed out from his mouth, Itachi fell onto the floor. As he fell, his whole body started melting and turn liquid, and a tomoe sign was formed on the floor.
Sasuke: ?!
The dimension collapsed, trapping Sasuke within...just as if Sasuke was swallowed, the scene changes to the battle between Suigetsu and Kisame...
Water was splashed and scattered around. Suigetsu's body was pierced by Samehada and stuck onto the lamppost.
Kisame: Well well, I thought you're pretty strong...a tearful face, that's it? That's such a kill-joy...
Suigetsu: It's so nostalgic...
A grinning Suigetsu.
Kisame: ?? ....are you laughing at your own pathetic state...it's painful to realise the truth isn't it?
Suigetsu: I got that from elder brother many times before, the feel of this blade...
Kisame: !! Come to think of it, you're right. Your elder brother was called Houzuki Mangetsu, right, Suigetsu?
(The former owner of Samehada...)
Suigetsu: alright...it's time
In a flash, Suigetsu pulled out Samehada, turned to the slime form and landed on the ground.
In his right hand, he held the cleaver (Zabuza's weapon), in his left hand was Samehada. Suigetsu went into a double sword stance (nitouryuu).
Kisame: Oh...My Samehada that rejects getting handled by anyone besides me is not resisting?
Suigetsu: I'm taking this sword, Kisame sempai
Kisame: If you can do it, that is...
Suigetsu: It's neither to attack my brother's enemy, nor about thinking of what I want to do to a missing-nin like you. This time, it's purely for entertainment (that we fight), that's all.
As soon as he had spoken, Suigetsu's body started to swell and blister.
The water took on a muscular form and flowed towards the two swords...
Kisame: snake...!?
Suigetsu: Suiton rehha - hebi guchi! (Suiton multiple waves technique - snake's mouth) Here I come...Kisame sempai!!

Kisame: Fufufu. That's going to be entertaining for me.
Kisame formed handseals.
A huge quantity of water came crashing out from nowhere...
Both were surrounded by sheets of water...
The appearance of Houzuki Mangetsu was reflected in Kisame's eyes...
The scene changes abruptly to the Itachi vs Sasuke combat, Itachi was sitting leisurely on the chair...
Sasuke's breathe rose, he suddenly stood in front of Itachi's eyes.
Itachi: Is this how I look in my death? Sasuke...
Sasuke: ...what the...?!
Itachi: I ask once more..."what can you see before your very eyes?"

End.

Spoiler for spoiler 3:

Source: NF
Credits: Kumanri

No cover page

Sasuke: Hmph, not good enough.
Picture shows Itachi's blood dripping from Sasuke's sword.
Itachi: I recognize your growth. However...you have placed too much faith in your improvement...
The entire room started to change in appearance.

Stirring up - To go beyond Itachi's level...!

Sasuke's thoughts: Genjutsu...?! No, I didn't meet his eyes...
The throne and Itachi who was seated there, along with Sasuke's sword were swallowed by the floor.
Sasuke's thoughts: It's genjutsu from the very beginning...?!
The crows gathered to form Itachi.
This Itachi has been stabbed in the chest and blood is dripping from the wound.
Then, the wound closes.
Sasuke: ?!
Itachi: Did you think... it will be okay as long as you don't see with your eyes...?
Sasuke: This is just like...
Sasuke looks at his surroundings and recalls the time he was caught in Tsukuyomi.
Itachi: The entire hideout is binded in a a genjutsu dimension. Try getting out of here...Sasuke
Sasuke: Fine... (Sasuke reopens his eyes with Sharingan activated.)
Sasuke's thoughts: It's not working. It's a very strong genjutsu....but....
The walls and ceiling spiral around the what remains of Itachi's image.
Sasuke's thoughts: I'm not going to be engulfed in this!

Spoiler for pic:

lol I didn't even think to copy / paste people's post off NF lol.

Lots of "Full Scripts" Out, the text translation in the picture is quite interesting.

But it does support part of the spoilers if it's true.

[BlackShinobi07]

Originally Posted by siya

Well, I really would rather not see a fight..I mean, the last chapter dissapointed me, I mean, all the did was stare at eachother, did a flip or two, and then Sasuke stabed Itachi twice and was like "I SAID THIS IS THE END YOU MURDEROUS TRADORIS FUCK!"....Then was like TO BE CONTINUED!....What I'm more interested in is that question

Exactly, which is why I really just want to skip this fight and get to team Konoha and Tobi. It'll just be a staring match for who knows how many chapters. And IDK, maybe its just me, but when an entire chapter is devoted to their fight and it all turns out to be genjutsu, I find it to very iritating and a wast of time and energy on Kishi's part and ours.

[ChojinLocke]

Originally Posted by BlackShinobi07

Exactly, which is why I really just want to skip this fight and get to team Konoha and Tobi. It'll just be a staring match for who knows how many chapters. And IDK, maybe its just me, but when an entire chapter is devoted to their fight and it all turns out to be genjutsu, I find it to very iritating and a wast of time and energy on Kishi's part and ours.

I dont really understand this logic. If anything a genjutsu fight adds a lawyer of complexity to a normal ninjutsu brawl. All fights begin and end eventually so i dont understand how anyone could see it as a waste of time since if you think like that all the manga is a waste of time. What makes some fights special is the meaning behind them (story wise) and separates the great fights from the ok fights like the tobi vs konoha. It's a story being told through fights and some have deeper and greater meaning than others. Draw your own conclusions on which is which..

..Irrespective of whether people like or dislike particular characters that is..

[siya]

Originally Posted by BlackShinobi07

Exactly, which is why I really just want to skip this fight and get to team Konoha and Tobi. It'll just be a staring match for who knows how many chapters. And IDK, maybe its just me, but when an entire chapter is devoted to their fight and it all turns out to be genjutsu, I find it to very iritating and a wast of time and energy on Kishi's part and ours.

Oh yea...It was very dissapointing..Perhaps if they got to some Taijutsu (where they are not moving uber fast and we can accually see them and there isn't a whole punch of sound effect words and lines...) then I would be more interested in the fight.

[BlackShinobi07]

Originally Posted by ChojinLocke

I dont really understand this logic. If anything a genjutsu fight adds a lawyer of complexity to a normal ninjutsu brawl. All fights begin and end eventually so i dont understand how anyone could see it as a waste of time since if you think like that all the manga is a waste of time. What makes some fights special is the meaning behind them (story wise) and separates the great fights from the ok fights like the tobi vs konoha. It's a story being told through fights and some have deeper and greater meaning than others. Draw your own conclusions on which is which..

..Irrespective of whether people like or dislike particular characters that is..

I found the last genjustu fight particularly senseless because it didn't move the story along at all. The only thing that happened was Itachi getting stabbed, which is most likely yet another pointless genjustu.