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Now I know that my theory is not based on any factual evidence, but on the pictorial ones and symbolism of paying the Sun to the Truth, but I find it more likely than Ed allowing either his father or Greed sacrificing themselves for Al's sake. I think The Small One is referring to the scene in chapter 78 where Hohenheim was with Rose and that other guy, on his way to give his declaration of war to Father. I always thought that he just extended the pavement rather than change the poisonous water into stone to walk on.
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2010-05-14, 23:18 | Link #1783 | |
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2010-05-15, 09:52 | Link #1784 |
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Reading the discussion, I am left asking myself if one of my premises about the FMA universe is wrong, so I if I am incorrect, someone please correct me:
I have always thought that the Philosophers' Stone was a "cheat" with which you can create matter out of nothing, and it would make sense that one who has it would also be able to manipulate the protons, neutrons and electrons rather that only the atoms and molecules as is with alchemists without it. Did the manga say otherwise? I only started reading it from about 80 and forward. |
2010-05-15, 10:26 | Link #1786 | |
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The manga doesn't really say whether alchemists can manipulate only atoms and molecules, or whether they can affect protons and such. I mean, they can manipulate souls and use them as power sources so.... I think, as long as the alchemists have the knowledge and skill then they can manipulate protons and such too. |
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2010-05-16, 01:27 | Link #1787 | |
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It's really fairly simple...
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2010-05-18, 03:20 | Link #1788 |
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Greed and Lin might separate, I can see Greed going down Terminator 2 Judgement Day. Greed dying for Lin and the rest. For the Ironic twist, the villain undone by his own greed!!! Bwahahaha!
Truth may hint something Al. Al has been staring at the truth the whole time. I'm sure there is something to him staring at that carving. By the way, fusion was the whole point to Alchemy, in a historical sense. The Holy Grail of alchemy was transmuting lead into gold. In FMA they toned it down, Alchemy in the FMA universe is limited to just magical chemistry with magical nuclear psychics requiring souls and killing millions of people. Last edited by mechalord; 2010-05-18 at 03:33. |
2010-05-19, 12:54 | Link #1789 |
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Hi everyone, i'd like to discuss something which happened in chapter 104.
There are some things which bother me a little: - first of all, what was the purpose of the human sacrifices exactly? Father says "c'mon gates, fight each other" but never before in the manga there was foreshadowing of this. Also, the fact that opposing gates can be used to harness energy is a bit "out there", i mean Arakawa is a good storyteller who always abided to her own set of rules, but here is a bit of deus ex machina since nothing of the sort has never been mentioned. also, we see the "gate tentacles" coming out of the sacrifices.... to grab father? Amestris'people? the other gates? - what about the earth/heaven gate? homunculus opened the gate of the earth but i suppose he wasn't in "this" dimension anymore? 'cause he would have stomped Central and so on but why did HE come out of the gate? shouldn't there be Earth's Truth instead? (this brings me to an hypotesis: Homunculus looking "out" from earth's gate looked much like a "truth".... i mean, he even stretches his arm to reach the sun, much like the "gate's tentacles". Like he had to create AND become a big/powerful Truth to bring down an even bigger truth. Anyway....its just my guess.) or maybe, he got so big because he's sized with the dimension of the earth's gate, and having absorbed all of its contents, he can now appear as the truth of Earth itself. Ow my brain hurts. - again: sun and earth's gate collide and the result is "paralyzing" the black tentacles of the sun by forcing them against the ones of the earth gate, so that the homunculus is "free" to bring down god. Am i reading this right? is there any clarification of the matter in guidebooks? fact is, everything seems so vague..... i loved 107's twist 'cause it was all so fitting in the grand scheme of things..... while 104's "OMG WTF moments" are, like..... more WTF then OMG can anyone elaborate on my doubts? tnx |
2010-05-21, 17:04 | Link #1794 |
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Al did get his body back, or to be more correct, his soul went back to his body, which is inside the door. Because Ed used his arm as payment to rescue Al's soul from the door when the transmutation of their mother went wrong, Al just reversed that reaction, which made his soul go back into the door and reunite with his body while Ed received his arm back. The question is whether or not he'll get his leg back as he used his leg as payment for summoning their mother(well not really their mother, but you get what I mean). If he does, it'll have to be through another method.
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2010-05-21, 19:20 | Link #1796 |
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I sure hope Arakawa wraps this all up. I mean, she not only has to end the fight, but also provide the final theological revelation, as well as "hopefully" provide an epilogue. That's quite a lot to do, even with 150 pages. There are many Winry fans crossing their fingers I'm sure. lol
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2010-05-22, 00:48 | Link #1797 |
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I still roll my eyes every time somebody mentions that "150 pages" that someone pulled out of their nethers earlier this month. No way we're getting 150 pages in the last chapter, if (as suggested by the director's blog) we're getting that last chapter in the last episode, when the current pace is around 1.5 40-page chapters (~60 pages) per episode. We might get something a little bigger than what we've seen lately (maybe that 80 pages we were "promised" but did not get last chapter), but as well as Arakawa has been able to tell the story so far, I have no problem expecting that she'll be able to finish it off fairly easily with the ~60 pages we've gotten with the last few, or even less.
For another thing, I think a lot of people are expecting to see things and hear answers that Arakawa's just not going to give us, and really shouldn't be expected to. The specifics to that "theological question" are one (How does it actually affect/explain the outcome beyond "This is the McGuffin Father wanted"?), but there are a fair number of other things. The author doesn't have to tell us everything, and there are probably a few things she assumes were fairly obviously explained, that some of us do not.
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2010-05-22, 03:00 | Link #1798 | |
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But i truly hope that Mustang gets his eyesight back,at first i thought that he's pretending to be blind to fool the enemy.(since we haven't seen what happened when he entered the door),but nah the truth had to take his eyesight Last edited by noktown; 2010-05-22 at 03:21. |
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2010-05-22, 07:07 | Link #1799 | |
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Now I personally think Mustang should get back his eyes, he did not want to see the "Truth" and was forced too. That's simply not fair. |
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2010-05-23, 02:15 | Link #1800 | |
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But we still don't have a solid idea of who "Truth" actually is. And since we will probably see it once more, I am wondering if she will reveal something more regarding it. Also, I think there's a high probability that Greed will save the day. In the Manga, Greed was first killed on a cross (later edited by Viz and subsequently altered in Brotherhood). But why a cross? I believe Arakawa (who says she knew the ending ever since she began) was giving a hint that Greed would be "redeemed". Afterall, in Christianity, the cross is a sign of redemption. And we all know how Arakawa has used many Christian/Jewish symbols throughout the story. It's a possibility that I think will come to pass in some way or another. |
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