2010-06-16, 09:54 | Link #9881 | |
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Rechecking StrikerS, Yuuno does make reference to the Cradle being rumored to be "a relic from the lost world of Al-Hazard".
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2010-06-16, 10:22 | Link #9882 | |
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The Bureau could be fighting 5 wars for all we know, even holding them all into stable stalemates, but since its just ships and no lolis we'll never see it in canon. Until someone decides to shift focus from lolis and magic and mecha refs to ships, we may never know. In this case, both "dimensions" and "hyperspace" are true. I know it makes no sense in Science, but we already established that what we understand has little hold in Nanohaverse...
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2010-06-16, 11:34 | Link #9883 | ||
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So far, everything we've seen in the Nanohaverse indicate that if you want to do more, you need more energy. I simply cannot accept two tasks orders of magnitude apart in difficulty can be accomplished with the same amount of effort unless the creators straight up and tell us that's the case. Quote:
I'm not interested in bringing you around to my view. We'll just have to agree to disagree until new information appears to settle the issue. Or until you can dig up old info that supports you stand. I would, however, like to point out that no one in the series has ever mentioned realspace distances when talking about seperate worlds. |
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2010-06-16, 11:52 | Link #9884 |
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Jimmmy_C, as i answered earlier, it's flat out stated in A's (after ep 7 fight), and shown later on with YnS, that Transfer aren't instantaneous and demands 'travel time', and that this 'travel time' depends on the person.
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2010-06-16, 12:25 | Link #9885 |
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I am aware of that, but I do not remember them ever stating outright, "person Y is at world X, [number] lightyears from here" when talking about being on seperate worlds. That's why I said realspace distances previously. Had they actually stated those, I'd have to accept that all the worlds in the Nanohaverse are in our universe. As long as they stick only to travel time, I don't.
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2010-06-16, 13:21 | Link #9886 | |
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Of course, it's useful if you want to cross it with something sci-fi, where in a i,j,k graph j is distance in the universe and k is the dimensional distance |
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2010-06-16, 14:18 | Link #9887 |
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They have been vague about energy requirements and teleportation. Vita in A's needed time to do a dimensional transfer,a nd it's implied that the Wolkenritter can teleport to various worlds on their own. Amy noted that the time it would take to go from Vita's location to Signum's location would take 20 minutes (hence, how could the masked man accomplish it?).
Chrono also needed to set up some sort of transport hub to more easily teleport from the Bureau to Earth and back again. Personal teleportation to worlds is possible, though I would suspect it ain't easy and not everyone can do it.;though magical technology can help. Edit: The concept of magical energy is not quite like the energy we know. If you believe the strikers booklets, Divine Buster Extension's special property is that it can basically fire it's beam across any distance without any power loss. Physics as we know it doesn't work this way; any transfer of mass or energy will result in energy loss, so it's technically physically impossible. It works because it's magic. Whenever I think about trying to over-think things, I remember that, and realize that it'll just result in a headache. Calling it magic and leaving it at that, works for me. |
2010-06-16, 15:22 | Link #9893 |
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That's what happens when people use a thread for all Nanoha manga for a long time. If the mods created a specific thread for each manga (A's, StrikerS, ViVid, Force, The Movie 1st) and actually enforced them, maybe people wouldn't fall back to using a single general thread. But alas, they only made a single separate manga thread.
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2010-06-16, 15:34 | Link #9895 |
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The noob is strong in this one. j/k
Anyways, yeah you're right insofar, el hazard may be the name of the event and subsequently what people refer to it as as a location. The El Hazard novel this is inspired from (El Hazard the series likewise takes from it) also refers to it as a location, but in Nanoha it's destruction is a notable event and calling the event that I'm fairly sure was mentioned in nanoha s1, need to refresh. I just think the old name was lost along with the civilization and so forth, hmm. Either they say el hazard was destroyed or when el hazard occured, meh so much speculation x_x;
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2010-06-16, 15:37 | Link #9896 | |
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And yeah, my translator dood might will prolly get to Force by his New Zealand Friday morning. I have work, work and work, so I'll try to get to it eventually. And Yukari banzaibanzaibanzai, so I'll still try to get to it eventually. BEFORE THE NEXT CHAPTER COMES, DON'T WORRY.
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2010-06-16, 18:29 | Link #9897 | |||
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The bottom line is, there's just not enough data to define, specifically, what the dimensional sea is. Quote:
Yeah, this is definitely how I have to go, here. Moreover, the fact that the high-tech in MGLN actually is magitech (that and the giant robots look like girls of various ages) is pretty much what sets it apart from Generic Sci-Fi Series X. Why attempt to nerf the one thing that makes the setting unique--and which, frankly, is the ultimate handwave for when they bring out various weirdness? |
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2010-06-16, 18:53 | Link #9898 | |
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2010-06-16, 18:56 | Link #9899 | |
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2010-06-16, 19:03 | Link #9900 | |
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*shot repeatedly* Seriously, something needs to get translated soon, or this thread is going to go crazy with debates and crack posts to keep it alive.
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