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View Poll Results: Claymore - Chapter 111 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 6 | 9.84% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 2 | 3.28% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 6 | 9.84% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 9 | 14.75% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 11 | 18.03% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 7 | 11.48% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 8 | 13.11% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 5 | 8.20% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 3 | 4.92% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 4 | 6.56% | |
Voters: 61. You may not vote on this poll |
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2011-01-06, 14:29 | Link #261 | |
Anachro-Romeo
Join Date: Apr 2010
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I actually think she should have died a really long time ago and will not shed a tear when she does. |
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2011-01-06, 15:13 | Link #262 | |
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Ryus «Most common phrases in this thread. All hail another Priscilla debate. » I guess I have to adapt myself |
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2011-01-06, 15:37 | Link #263 | |
The One Eyed King
Join Date: Apr 2009
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and yes... mods have had to end this topic before... and I may have been involved with that Even made this to apologize to the mod... Spoiler for pic:
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2011-01-06, 17:00 | Link #264 | |
The Perplexing One(s)
Join Date: Oct 2010
Age: 37
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The Org is responsible for the creation of all Yoma, AB, AE, AO and Claymore warriors past, present and future. It was the Organization that sent an untested, immature, potential nut job into the field without proper care attached. Its akin to slapping a 14 year old in a stick shift and saying, "Cya at home k." And then walking off. He likely doesn't have the first clue what to do. And has to slowly make costly progress that can place him or her and many others and great risk to life, limb and property. If that was done in the real world... the parents wouldn't be able to even get a word in over the outrage. (...In America...) lol So the Org takes full responsibility for sending a near total unknown to face an exponentially more experienced, and possibly even more powerful, opponent. Then you have Illena who tells her to take Teresa's head no matter what... Not the smartest thing to say to the greenie fresh out of the academy with all sorts of BS still ringing in her ears. The fault is both the Organizations and Illena's. For not understanding just what they were asking prior to asking it. Don't even get started on Teresa's handler. Priscilla demonstrated a dangerous single mindedness that should have had her removed from consideration. Again this falls squarely into the Organizations lap. So is Priscilla completely exonerated from her behavior due to the stupidity displayed by both the Organization and Illena? ... Yes. Due to the speed at which the Organization operates and the conditions that the "recruits" are treated to during their training Priscilla is prevented from emotionally maturing, and over coming the trauma of her youth. Want proof that she never aged emotionally. Look at her first appearance. The way she talks to herself, the way she excuses her actions to a person of lower rank, the way she expects to be beaten for being "late." And the speed at which she forgets she was ever threatened by Noel. She shows a single mindedness that is to child like to have been accidental. Overly obsessed with doing what she was told. An absolute belief that all she has been told is not only true, but beyond question. The sudden and abrupt mood swings. With an at all costs mentality. So now place that mind within the body of the most powerful awakened creature you have ever seen. A mind that doesn't know discipline, restraint, consequence and reward. And you get Priscilla. An awakened being that is clueless and careless to the things around her, and who remains... focused on carrying out her last orders, even if she can't remember who it is she is supposed to kill.
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2011-01-06, 17:18 | Link #265 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Italy
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It's not that Prissy is evil,it's just that she is an AB. Prissy was a normal human,her family was killed by a yoma created by the org, and always the org is responsable for her becoming a monsters.These are the only facts that imo can be judged by human's morale,everything that she did after that it's Prissy just being a super powerful AB. It's true that humans has to stop Prissy (good luck with that),but not because she's evil,Prissy must be stopped simply because she's a dangerous enemy for humanity. Irene didn't have any responsability in Prissy's a wakening,she said Prissy to fight with all she got only when there could still be hope to win the fight,but as soon as Irene saw Teresa's real strenght she said Prissy to stop that they'll have other occasions to attack again in the future. Irene couldn't know about Teresa's real power and couldn't know about Prissy's possible mental instability,so she didn't do anything stupid,as soon as she understood the situation it was already too late. |
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2011-01-06, 17:26 | Link #266 | |
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Hey maybe she can be responsibility by wasting food…. Yes, this way she has to kill more |
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2011-01-06, 18:09 | Link #267 |
Lord Knight of SYTOM
Join Date: Feb 2010
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For what it's worth, I do hold the Organization responsible for almost everything that happens on the island, simply because of the fact that the entire island is a glorified lab experiment for the Organization to refine their creation of Claymores.
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2011-01-06, 18:25 | Link #269 |
Lord Knight of SYTOM
Join Date: Feb 2010
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On the contrary, it's the very heart of the matter.
The Organization basically owns the island itself, and everything Claymore or Yoma related on the island is either a direct action of the Organization, or an incidental act. I guess you could say that Priscilla might be an incidental act. Presumably, they did not intend her to become an Abyssal One. However, think about it...what if it was a direct action on their part? What if they intended everything to happen as it happened? In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if in the end the ghosts make it to the Org's main room and they're all "Congratulations, our experiment to make you into true supersoldiers has panned out, now go to the mainland and win our war for us." |
2011-01-06, 18:40 | Link #271 | ||
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Location: Italy
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ABs generally don't eat everything in humans,their "targets" are the guts,and she surely ate them since those humans had a BIIIIG hole in their abdomen. Quote:
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2011-01-06, 20:35 | Link #272 | |
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What I remember about is that poor man that wanted to rape pris got is guts destroyed with 1 finger attack. So, if she destroyed her guts this way, she is not consuming what she should do. |
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2011-01-06, 20:51 | Link #273 | |
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Italy
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If you look how Prissy "ate" Riful it's clear that she can eat that way too. |
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2011-01-06, 21:02 | Link #274 | |
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Hummmm…. Nice try. *She ate the twins with her mouth* and what you trying to say is not seen. |
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2011-01-06, 21:41 | Link #275 | |
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: locate Jamestown in the Commonwealth
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I do agree the MIBs are ultimately responsible for these monster but if Jean, Riful (yes even she have shown restraint...I add her too because of her childlike presence) and Ophelia can keep their some of their human emotions I don't see really why Prisface can't either and she has, Raki for example. Maybe it's the power level. I like your analogy with the kid and a stick shift makes a good deal of sense. |
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2011-01-06, 21:46 | Link #276 | |
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lol at "Congratulations for making it this far now go fight our war for us" good one |
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2011-01-06, 22:05 | Link #277 | |
Snobby Gentleman
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Monterrey, México
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From my POV, is that Priscilla in an obvious and natural reaction to such massive mental trauma, shut herself up and during the interim from being a trainee up to being promoted #2 by the ORG, she was delivered their logic and own stance of what they regard as moral (a.k.a. as their b******t). Up to this point, I definitely agree with you. The trouble I had is that Priscilla remains a mentally child for the rest of the course of her short-lived career as a Claymore. Basically, she can be excused of everything, but I don't know if she can be excused at least for Teresa's murder. To my limited understanding children in real-life start to become aware that their actions have consequences at the onset of their pre-teens, likely around or between the ages of 10 to 12, provided that they have been living in a stable home and environment, and been under the care of a responsible adult. I know, I know that Priscilla was left mentally traumatized just like everyone else in the Claymoreverse by the Yoma. But there's a key to all of this, and Teresa shot at that topic when she threatened the bandit, whom she accidentally sliced off his hand, and was savagely beating little Clare. The bandit taunted at her that she couldn't lay a finger on him due to the rules in fear of the Organizations' reprisal for breaking them. Teresa stoically replied him back that it was her Choice to kill or not a human; following or not the rules; Her Freedom; Her Basic Right as a human. Her choice. Choice to kill or not kill; choice to keep on living as an ORG's tool or living for Clare's sake. Of course, such a concept wouldn't be understandable for a fragile child like Priscilla at such a young age after that hellish ordeal at the time. But, even if she did not grow up mentally, she grew within the Organization even if she had swallowed all their rhetoric to her heart's content. What I'm trying to say is that I'm empathetic for what happened to Priscilla and her family before being Claymore. From becoming a little human child to a little child Claymore trainee, it wouldn't be possible for Priscilla to get the grasp on the concept of choice. However, when Priscilla grew-up into a teenaged Claymore and got promoted as the next 2, and got as first assignment to be part of the Kill-Teresa extermination squad, there were a few scenarios presented to her where she had a Choice: 1. Right after Teresa pawned the four and left town with Clare, Irene told her to regroup with the others and re-think calmly their strategy to get another shot at killing Teresa to fulfill the mission. Priscilla had a choice: either stay still and listen to Irene, although that would have meant swallowing her pride or let herself burn in murderous rage, forfeit her comrades, and going all by herself to kill Teresa. 2. Teresa at 10% Yoki-released level beats Priscilla's butt, the latter dangerously at the 80% Yoki-edge level. Teresa warned and told Priscilla to supress her Yoki right away and reverting to human form. Priscilla had another choice: Either to make herself realize, if even by force, she was a brink away of becoming into that thing she hated the most, and thus reverting back on her own; or dropping rock-bottom into the abyss of hatred, overlooking Teresas' cautionary words with a grain of salt, and keep on pushing the match in order to fulfill her murderous intent. Yes, the Org is as guilty for the calamities and madness that have afflicted the island and its inhabitants. Irene's guilty at least for being blinded at the fact that Priscilla was a mental and inexperienced child not yet ready for an opponent of Teresa's caliber. But, to my view, the teenaged-Claymore Priscilla is guilty for the choices she made that led her to the tragedy of her Awakening into the One-Horned Monster (or B***h, if anyone prefers), and at least I will hold her responsible for Teresa's murder, before awakening. Now, Verkruk, I'm more than ready for you to present your evidence and statements to refute most, if not all, of my posted arguments. For the simple fact that is your right to debate and discuss, as well as for bringing me facts and feedback that definitely I know I had overlooked. Reason I'm a newbie in all of this debate, and definitely there are about at least hundreds of guys out there, including you, that are more knowledgeable in this subject. Last reason because I am not a narrow-minded person, that will shut himself with the just the first option or facts that is presented to. |
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2011-01-06, 22:08 | Link #278 | |
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Prisface and evil..hmm..that smirk was so evil but damn she didn't just give Raki a hand she gave him her whole arm. Let us think about all the things she had been doing with just an arm...lol "Catch you later Raki...here's a little something for all your hard work." lol Wait...wait..wait remembering what she said to the twins.. "So that's your sister..aww she came to help you..she'll die too." "What failures you guys are....The dolls that aren't suppose to show emotion." Prisface and Evil Then there's more "So you brought her little body with you but in all the commotion you forgot why you allowed yourself to be impaled and lost sight of what you were fighting for." That was Riful and Duff moment...wow..so many examples. Prisface and Evil I truly believe Prisface is aware she is a monster and loving it. She needs to be put down quick. I hope Clare is seriously giving her a serious mind-fnck. |
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2011-01-06, 23:02 | Link #280 | |
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I'm still laughing at the welcoming party for the Ghosts at the org. I can image like party hats being place on each one of their heads and the confetti. Then the banner that reads "Congratulations you did it, now off to the mainland" |
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