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Originally Posted by Verkruk
Sorry Gooral.
The Org is responsible for the creation of all Yoma, AB, AE, AO and Claymore warriors past, present and future.
It was the Organization that sent an untested, immature, potential nut job into the field without proper care attached.
Its akin to slapping a 14 year old in a stick shift and saying, "Cya at home k."
And then walking off. He likely doesn't have the first clue what to do.
And has to slowly make costly progress that can place him or her and many others and great risk to life, limb and property.
If that was done in the real world... the parents wouldn't be able to even get a word in over the outrage. (...In America...) lol
So the Org takes full responsibility for sending a near total unknown to face an exponentially more experienced, and possibly even more powerful, opponent.
Then you have Illena who tells her to take Teresa's head no matter what...
Not the smartest thing to say to the greenie fresh out of the academy with all sorts of BS still ringing in her ears.
The fault is both the Organizations and Illena's. For not understanding just what they were asking prior to asking it. Don't even get started on Teresa's handler.
Priscilla demonstrated a dangerous single mindedness that should have had her removed from consideration. Again this falls squarely into the Organizations lap.
So is Priscilla completely exonerated from her behavior due to the stupidity displayed by both the Organization and Illena? ... Yes.
Due to the speed at which the Organization operates and the conditions that the "recruits" are treated to during their training Priscilla is prevented from emotionally maturing, and over coming the trauma of her youth.
Want proof that she never aged emotionally.
Look at her first appearance. The way she talks to herself, the way she excuses her actions to a person of lower rank, the way she expects to be beaten for being "late." And the speed at which she forgets she was ever threatened by Noel.
She shows a single mindedness that is to child like to have been accidental.
Overly obsessed with doing what she was told. An absolute belief that all she has been told is not only true, but beyond question.
The sudden and abrupt mood swings.
With an at all costs mentality.
So now place that mind within the body of the most powerful awakened creature you have ever seen.
A mind that doesn't know discipline, restraint, consequence and reward.
And you get Priscilla.
An awakened being that is clueless and careless to the things around her, and who remains...  focused on carrying out her last orders, even if she can't remember who it is she is supposed to kill. |
I do agree with the majority of your stated points for the obvious reasons that the Org is obsessed with anything else but to create the perfect, controllable-Awakened; then mass-produce the process; deploy the finished products into the mainland, in order for them to achieve the necessary edge to win the war, thus putting Claymores as nothing more than expendable guinea pigs.
From my POV, is that Priscilla in an obvious and natural reaction to such massive mental trauma, shut herself up and during the interim from being a trainee up to being promoted #2 by the ORG, she was delivered their logic and own stance of what they regard as moral (a.k.a. as their b******t).
Up to this point, I definitely agree with you.
The trouble I had is that Priscilla remains a mentally child for the rest of the course of her short-lived career as a Claymore. Basically, she can be excused of everything, but I don't know if she can be excused at least for Teresa's murder.
To my limited understanding children in real-life start to become aware that their actions have consequences at the onset of their pre-teens, likely around or between the ages of 10 to 12, provided that they have been living in a stable home and environment, and been under the care of a responsible adult.
I know, I know that Priscilla was left mentally traumatized just like everyone else in the Claymoreverse by the Yoma.
But there's a key to all of this, and Teresa shot at that topic when she threatened the bandit, whom she accidentally sliced off his hand, and was savagely beating little Clare.
The bandit taunted at her that she couldn't lay a finger on him due to the rules in fear of the Organizations' reprisal for breaking them.
Teresa stoically replied him back that it was her Choice to kill or not a human; following or not the rules; Her Freedom; Her Basic Right as a human.
Her choice. Choice to kill or not kill; choice to keep on living as an ORG's tool or living for Clare's sake.
Of course, such a concept wouldn't be understandable for a fragile child like Priscilla at such a young age after that hellish ordeal at the time.
But, even if she did not grow up mentally, she grew within the Organization even if she had swallowed all their rhetoric to her heart's content.
What I'm trying to say is that I'm empathetic for what happened to Priscilla and her family before being Claymore. From becoming a little human child to a little child Claymore trainee, it wouldn't be possible for Priscilla to get the grasp on the concept of choice.
However, when Priscilla grew-up into a teenaged Claymore and got promoted as the next 2, and got as first assignment to be part of the Kill-Teresa extermination squad, there were a few scenarios presented to her where she had a Choice:
1. Right after Teresa pawned the four and left town with Clare, Irene told her to regroup with the others and re-think calmly their strategy to get another shot at killing Teresa to fulfill the mission.
Priscilla had a choice: either stay still and listen to Irene, although that would have meant swallowing her pride or let herself burn in murderous rage, forfeit her comrades, and going all by herself to kill Teresa.
2. Teresa at 10% Yoki-released level beats Priscilla's butt, the latter dangerously at the 80% Yoki-edge level. Teresa warned and told Priscilla to supress her Yoki right away and reverting to human form.
Priscilla had another choice: Either to make herself realize, if even by force, she was a brink away of becoming into that thing she hated the most, and thus reverting back on her own; or dropping rock-bottom into the abyss of hatred, overlooking Teresas' cautionary words with a grain of salt, and keep on pushing the match in order to fulfill her murderous intent.
Yes, the Org is as guilty for the calamities and madness that have afflicted the island and its inhabitants.
Irene's guilty at least for being blinded at the fact that Priscilla was a mental and inexperienced child not yet ready for an opponent of Teresa's caliber.
But, to my view, the teenaged-Claymore Priscilla is guilty for the choices she made that led her to the tragedy of her Awakening into the One-Horned Monster (or B***h, if anyone prefers), and at least I will hold her responsible for Teresa's murder, before awakening.
Now, Verkruk, I'm more than ready for you to present your evidence and statements to refute most, if not all, of my posted arguments. For the simple fact that is your right to debate and discuss, as well as for bringing me facts and feedback that definitely I know I had overlooked.
Reason I'm a newbie in all of this debate, and definitely there are about at least hundreds of guys out there, including you, that are more knowledgeable in this subject.
Last reason because I am not a narrow-minded person, that will shut himself with the just the first option or facts that is presented to.
People got opinions... I've just been too busy helping my brother move in to state mine. 
God, help you all if I find time. 
? Would you call mass murderer a victim and blame his parents since they "created" him? <rotfl>
